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Post by LK3 on Jan 15, 2020 17:07:20 GMT -5
I don’t like the vacating of wins and championships. Especially in the college sports. You can say “nobody won” but everyone knows what happened and it doesn’t change anything. Just let them live with people questioning their accolades.
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Post by IRS on Jan 15, 2020 20:21:01 GMT -5
Honestly disgusted by the total slap on the wrist by Manfred. This crap is a disgrace to the entire game, and you just told the entire league you can cheat your way to a World Series with no real consequences. You put a stain on Darvish and, more importantly, Kershaw's postseason legacy. They stained the MVP that season.
Look at the Astros' numbers from 2017 compared to years prior, and tell me there is no definitive proof the sign stealing gave them an edge.
You can blacklist Barry Bonds for taking PEDs, but an entire team cheats the system to know which pitch is coming every at-bat, wins the WS, and you get nothing?
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Post by BASTARDKING on Jan 16, 2020 13:15:54 GMT -5
This just in, Carlos Beltran is stepping down before even managing a single game for the Mets.
Well... Wouldn’t be the first time that Beltran being caught looking ruined the Mets 😬
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Post by RSCTom on Jan 16, 2020 19:49:06 GMT -5
I don't really believe in lifetime bans and think at this point they should for sure loosen up on Rose, but I think a couple year bans for the key players are appropriate. It's a stain they'll have to work very hard get over and it's basically taking money out of their pockets. None of this is as bad as betting on an opposing team and throwing the game so they win, which I think is way more severely punishable, if that were to ever happen again.
And I hate Alex Cora and I have a lifetime hatred for the Red Sox and despise the Astros as a Dodgers fan. But anything beyond a few years is too much. Lessons learned.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 21, 2020 20:44:55 GMT -5
Derek Jeter and Larry Walker are going to the Hall of Fame. One guy didnt vote for Jeter. Curt Schilling and Todd Helton shouldve went in as well.
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Post by terraryzing on Jan 24, 2020 15:10:06 GMT -5
Watching the Mets press conference introducing Rojas as manager, and My God, I don't think there's anyone in the world (including Trump, which really says something) who loves to get in front of a camera & talk more than Brodie Van Wagonan. THe guy annoys the sh*t out of me, and they didn't even call Buck Showalter cause Brodie wants a yes man, plus Buck's smarter than Brodie, who seems to love to present himself as the smartest guy in the room. I don't understand why the guy didn't make himself the manager. He wants to hang out in the locker room and be the star of this team. Probably the most obnoxious exec there is in MLB. Met fans, I pity you...
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Post by terraryzing on Jan 24, 2020 15:13:05 GMT -5
Derek Jeter and Larry Walker are going to the Hall of Fame. One guy didnt vote for Jeter. Curt Schilling and Todd Helton shouldve went in as well. Schilling (barring any public scandals through next January) is probably the only one who will get in next year. I can't wait til 2022 when Bonds & Clemens are in their final year, and A-Rod & Papi are on their first ballot. I think, like one of the guys on MLB Network, both Bonds & Clemens will get in, in their final year on the ballot and the writers are just making them sweat.
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Post by LK3 on Jan 24, 2020 16:46:58 GMT -5
I hope that’s the case, I’m of the opinion that Bonds and Clemons need to be in the HOF.
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Post by The Lion's Den on Jan 24, 2020 21:56:19 GMT -5
I don't know where to stand on the roids. I grew up watching these guys and loved it. The excitement of watching the 90's home run races the Bonds push was so fun to watch. Suddenly it's looked down on? The thing is, like the trash can nonsense is how do you quantify its impact? How can you say the roids made Barry hit 73 homers? How about lousy pitching? Or Clemens? He was so good as it was. So does the inability to quantify make it easier or harder to decide who is in? And is the HoF a moral police or not? Schilling is a HoF but a bit cooky. The BBWAA let Baines in, so what's the standard anymore?
I'm glad Jeter and mainly Walker got in. Such a well rounded player, offense and defense - obviously talking about Walker haha. I'm glad someone didn't vote Jeter, but Rosenthal had a good bit on it. Who cares? He made it in with 396 votes. And even still he shouldn't have.
Baseball is going to be interesting this year...
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Post by LK3 on Jan 24, 2020 22:33:12 GMT -5
The 100% thing is ridiculous to begin with. I’ll never know why dozens of people weren’t 100% over the last like 50-60 years. You’d think putting Rivera in with it last year would break the seal, but not yet apparently. Everyone agrees that Derek Jeter is a HOFer, without question. Then why should anyone not vote for him? Heard people saying the next chance at 100% will be Ichiro in 5 years. We’ll see if there are still morons out there who won’t vote for him.
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Post by The Lion's Den on Jan 26, 2020 20:29:19 GMT -5
The 100% thing is ridiculous to begin with. I’ll never know why dozens of people weren’t 100% over the last like 50-60 years. You’d think putting Rivera in with it last year would break the seal, but not yet apparently. Everyone agrees that Derek Jeter is a HOFer, without question. Then why should anyone not vote for him? Heard people saying the next chance at 100% will be Ichiro in 5 years. We’ll see if there are still morons out there who won’t vote for him. I agree, there should be many other "unanimous first balloters", but he got in. I'm happy he didn't get it personally, a bit overrated. Don't get me wrong, fantastic player but the whole thing is out of wack.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 29, 2020 19:57:04 GMT -5
Astros hire "Killer of Arms" Dusty Baker as their manager. This guy has had almost 20 years of failure. How does he keep getting jobs?
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 4, 2020 23:17:18 GMT -5
Dodgers bail out the Red Sox again with another salary dump. They take on Betts $27 million for 2020, AND David Price and the remaining $96 million on his deal.
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Post by LA Times on Feb 4, 2020 23:28:11 GMT -5
Dodgers also traded Kenta Maeda to the Twins and Joc Pedey to the Angels
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Post by LA Times on Feb 9, 2020 20:27:25 GMT -5
The Mookie Betts/David Price to Dodgers trade was slightly altered and the Red Sox will be getting a guy named Jeter Downs, LOL. The Joc Pederson to Anaheim trade fell through.
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Post by LA Times on Feb 14, 2020 17:38:49 GMT -5
Cody Bellinger is pissed at Houston and thinks he was robbed of a championship. Cody Bellinger needs to shut his mouth. He batted .143 with 17 strikeouts that World Series. If the Dodgers beat the Yankees in the World Series in October, then he can talk.
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Post by LK3 on Feb 14, 2020 18:53:31 GMT -5
So players shouldn’t feel cheated if they didn’t perform well? Ok.
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Post by LA Times on Feb 15, 2020 10:50:09 GMT -5
So players shouldn’t feel cheated if they didn’t perform well? Ok. Sounds like he is making excuses for losing.
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Post by LK3 on Feb 15, 2020 14:00:20 GMT -5
So players shouldn’t feel cheated if they didn’t perform well? Ok. Sounds like he is making excuses for losing. What if Joc Pederson said it? He hit .333 with 3 HR in the series. Would that be okay because he performed well? Either the team was cheated or they weren’t cheated in a 7 game series, it doesn’t matter how the players specifically performed offensively.
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Post by IRS on Feb 17, 2020 13:27:43 GMT -5
Bellinger should be outraged. As should the whole league. Manfred needs to go. Now. He's a disgrace.
It's blatantly obvious he did not want this to come out and wanted it buried. The Astros have no remorse and are waving their dicks in everybody's face, and why not? They stole a championship, likely cheated their way back to the WS last year, and got away scot-free. Probably will again this year.
It's absolutely disgusting and it gets worse with every press conference and interview.
How about this? If the commissioner just wants to ignore it, and it apparently had no proven impact, why not make it legal for all teams to steal signs with video technology?
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