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Post by Tim of thee on Oct 31, 2020 11:36:21 GMT -5
The whole Justin Turner situation goes like this: - Dodgers fans support and love JT, and most probably don't care too much about the incident. - Dodger haters can't accept the Dodgers will be in the record books as 2020 World Series champions, so they'll use this JT situation to have something negative to complain about. I without a doubt would've done the same thing. Sue me. 🤷🏽♂️ Just to be clear. You are ok with getting other people sick? If I was told I tested positive for COVID I’d be trying my best to stay away no matter the situation. I have many high risk people near me and the last thing I want is getting them sick. It’s a very selfish and irresponsible thing to do. If someone came into your work that you know tested positive you’d be ok with hanging out with them? The damage it could have cause (or may still) and the risks associated with it I could not live with those consequences. I’m pretty disappointed that this is being talked of so lightly. No wonder we have a problem opening businesses fully in CA if this this the primary sentiment. If this happened to my team I’d be saying the same thing. You can be thrilled that your team won the title but you can still call out bad behavior of those on your team at the same time. Also to be clear, he went on the field knowing he had tested positive for COVID. This is all on him. We are not bringing this up for any other reason. Don’t blame the league don’t blame security it falls on the individual squarely.
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Post by Evil Abed on Nov 1, 2020 11:43:42 GMT -5
Yankees should really just: Re-sign LeMahieu Re-sign Tanaka Pick up Britton’s option Sign Realmuto Trade Gary Sanchez for bullpen arms Maybe trade Ottavino I was with you entirely with the exception of resigning Tanaka. IMO he’s been way too much hype and not enough results since coming over. He had a few flashes of brilliance and dominance in his first year or so but since then doesn’t stand out any farther than a 3rd or 4th string starter. Hitters have figured him out and his velocity isn’t going anywhere but down. Personally I’d rather see them go after Paxton for a short term deal, It probably would be less expensive considering the lack of free agent money this year and I’d rather see them use that money to resign LeMahieu. Then you have Cole, Severino, German, Paxton, Garcia. I think that’d be as good as a NYY starting rotation as in many years if everyone can stay healthy and out of trouble (looking at you Mr. German).
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 1, 2020 13:27:45 GMT -5
Yankees should really just: Re-sign LeMahieu Re-sign Tanaka Pick up Britton’s option Sign Realmuto Trade Gary Sanchez for bullpen arms Maybe trade Ottavino I was with you entirely with the exception of resigning Tanaka. IMO he’s been way too much hype and not enough results since coming over. He had a few flashes of brilliance and dominance in his first year or so but since then doesn’t stand out any farther than a 3rd or 4th string starter. Hitters have figured him out and his velocity isn’t going anywhere but down. Personally I’d rather see them go after Paxton for a short term deal, It probably would be less expensive considering the lack of free agent money this year and I’d rather see them use that money to resign LeMahieu. Then you have Cole, Severino, German, Paxton, Garcia. I think that’d be as good as a NYY starting rotation as in many years if everyone can stay healthy and out of trouble (looking at you Mr. German). I'm scared of Paxton's arm injury. I feel like if we sign him, he'll be lost to Tommy John surgery. Tanaka, while not the ace he was advertised to be (very few Japanese pitchers are as good here as in Japan), he has been a great Yankee and a very consistent and productive player. In 2020, his average fastball velocity was 93, where it's sat for a few years now, and his ERA was 3.56 when 4.63 was the AL average ERA. His slider and splitter are really his money pitches. Tanaka has also been very good in the Postseason for the most part. He's only 32 years old, and with the arms of Cole, Severino, Montgomery, Garcia, and potentially German ahead of him (and that's if the Yankees make NO SP trades/signings)...who has a 4th or 5th starter than has the potential to be as good as Tanaka can be? To me, Tanaka is a lot like Andy Pettitte. He's going to have some clunkers here and there, but when he's on; Tanaka can still absolutely dominate a game. Obviously he's no Cole, so his dominating performances are going to be fewer and farther between. But to me, Tanaka still has a lot of life left in him and I hope he can continue to be a Yankee.
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Post by Chip on Nov 1, 2020 18:29:54 GMT -5
Agree 100% Yankees should absolutely re-sign Tanaka. He's obviously healthy, still young, and is a positive to the pitching staff. Plus he likes NY and would most likely take a "team friendly" deal to stay another few years.
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Nov 2, 2020 6:25:44 GMT -5
The whole Justin Turner situation goes like this: - Dodgers fans support and love JT, and most probably don't care too much about the incident. - Dodger haters can't accept the Dodgers will be in the record books as 2020 World Series champions, so they'll use this JT situation to have something negative to complain about. I without a doubt would've done the same thing. Sue me. 🤷🏽♂️ Just to be clear. You are ok with getting other people sick? If I was told I tested positive for COVID I’d be trying my best to stay away no matter the situation. I have many high risk people near me and the last thing I want is getting them sick. It’s a very selfish and irresponsible thing to do. If someone came into your work that you know tested positive you’d be ok with hanging out with them? The damage it could have cause (or may still) and the risks associated with it I could not live with those consequences. I’m pretty disappointed that this is being talked of so lightly. No wonder we have a problem opening businesses fully in CA if this this the primary sentiment. If this happened to my team I’d be saying the same thing. You can be thrilled that your team won the title but you can still call out bad behavior of those on your team at the same time. Also to be clear, he went on the field knowing he had tested positive for COVID. This is all on him. We are not bringing this up for any other reason. Don’t blame the league don’t blame security it falls on the individual squarely. Im not saying it wasn't irresponsible on his part. But he had already exposed everyone pretty much the whole game before being removed, and on top of that being that it is the world freaking series, I myself along with plenty others have a lighter take to this occurrence. Unlike that piece of garbage Machado, JT carries himself with class and has a very solid reputation. He just made a bad decision during probably the greatest day of his life. A hefty fine and a little media scolding should be enough, but banning him forever is the dumbest thing I've ever heard lol. If anything the cheating Trashstros should've been banned for a whole year.
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Post by Tim of thee on Nov 2, 2020 14:25:36 GMT -5
Just to be clear. You are ok with getting other people sick? If I was told I tested positive for COVID I’d be trying my best to stay away no matter the situation. I have many high risk people near me and the last thing I want is getting them sick. It’s a very selfish and irresponsible thing to do. If someone came into your work that you know tested positive you’d be ok with hanging out with them? The damage it could have cause (or may still) and the risks associated with it I could not live with those consequences. I’m pretty disappointed that this is being talked of so lightly. No wonder we have a problem opening businesses fully in CA if this this the primary sentiment. If this happened to my team I’d be saying the same thing. You can be thrilled that your team won the title but you can still call out bad behavior of those on your team at the same time. Also to be clear, he went on the field knowing he had tested positive for COVID. This is all on him. We are not bringing this up for any other reason. Don’t blame the league don’t blame security it falls on the individual squarely. Im not saying it wasn't irresponsible on his part. But he had already exposed everyone pretty much the whole game before being removed, and on top of that being that it is the world freaking series, I myself along with plenty others have a lighter take to this occurrence. Unlike that piece of garbage Machado, JT carries himself with class and has a very solid reputation. He just made a bad decision during probably the greatest day of his life. A hefty fine and a little media scolding should be enough, but banning him forever is the dumbest thing I've ever heard lol. If anything the cheating Trashstros should've been banned for a whole year. Ok so you’re still cool with getting people sick though? Notated
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Post by The Lion's Den on Nov 2, 2020 16:34:26 GMT -5
Im not saying it wasn't irresponsible on his part. But he had already exposed everyone pretty much the whole game before being removed, and on top of that being that it is the world freaking series, I myself along with plenty others have a lighter take to this occurrence. Unlike that piece of garbage Machado, JT carries himself with class and has a very solid reputation. He just made a bad decision during probably the greatest day of his life. A hefty fine and a little media scolding should be enough, but banning him forever is the dumbest thing I've ever heard lol. If anything the cheating Trashstros should've been banned for a whole year. Ok so you’re still cool with getting people sick though? Notated I think a lot of the blame, or issue, surrounds Manfred. Always comes back to that dunce. The Astros got off easy, the whole covid was mishandled from day 1, and there is still a chance that the test was a false positive too. I'm not disagreeing that it was irresponsible (in the case he was sick), but I don't think it's just Turner's fault. The MLB is so poorly governed that surely someone else on the Dodgers would have had it too and tested positive and still been out there. I hate Manfred.
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Post by Tim of thee on Nov 2, 2020 17:46:26 GMT -5
Ok so you’re still cool with getting people sick though? Notated I think a lot of the blame, or issue, surrounds Manfred. Always comes back to that dunce. The Astros got off easy, the whole covid was mishandled from day 1, and there is still a chance that the test was a false positive too. I'm not disagreeing that it was irresponsible (in the case he was sick), but I don't think it's just Turner's fault. The MLB is so poorly governed that surely someone else on the Dodgers would have had it too and tested positive and still been out there. I hate Manfred. I’m sorry I fail to see how this is anyone else’s fault but the individuals. I don’t care who you are. What I’ve read is that he in fact tested positive. This is absurd that it’s being dismissed. Ban for life or yearlong suspension at the very least. Absolutely irresponsible and dangerous!
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Post by The Lion's Den on Nov 3, 2020 14:47:05 GMT -5
I think a lot of the blame, or issue, surrounds Manfred. Always comes back to that dunce. The Astros got off easy, the whole covid was mishandled from day 1, and there is still a chance that the test was a false positive too. I'm not disagreeing that it was irresponsible (in the case he was sick), but I don't think it's just Turner's fault. The MLB is so poorly governed that surely someone else on the Dodgers would have had it too and tested positive and still been out there. I hate Manfred. I’m sorry I fail to see how this is anyone else’s fault but the individuals. I don’t care who you are. What I’ve read is that he in fact tested positive. This is absurd that it’s being dismissed. Ban for life or yearlong suspension at the very least. Absolutely irresponsible and dangerous! Didn't say Turner shouldn't be held responsible for his actions. Was talking about the irresponsibility of Major League Baseball in handling the entire covid situations. But we should keep this on the off-season. Could debate Covid until we're blue in the face.
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Post by The Lion's Den on Nov 3, 2020 14:51:47 GMT -5
Agree 100% Yankees should absolutely re-sign Tanaka. He's obviously healthy, still young, and is a positive to the pitching staff. Plus he likes NY and would most likely take a "team friendly" deal to stay another few years. I agree that the Yankees should resign him. Any team will be vying for him otherwise. Sure he didn't live up to "ace" or "domination" status BUT, he has been consistent, he has been relatively healthy, he gives depth to any rotation. You can never have enough pitching, and even though he didn't have that hype the fact is its kind of rare that pitchers give you that kind of consistency.
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Post by LA Times on Nov 6, 2020 21:39:33 GMT -5
Brodie Van Wagenen is leaving the Mets. Good riddance. He traded the future for a 39 year old Robinson Cano, Edwin Diaz and 2 months of Marcus Stroman.
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Post by LK3 on Nov 6, 2020 21:44:04 GMT -5
And by leaving you mean fired.
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Post by The Lion's Den on Nov 7, 2020 10:50:04 GMT -5
Brodie Van Wagenen is leaving the Mets. Good riddance. He traded the future for a 39 year old Robinson Cano, Edwin Diaz and 2 months of Marcus Stroman. So glad to see Steve Cohen clean house. What an embarrassment, and I'm not even a Mets fan.
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Post by The Lion's Den on Nov 11, 2020 11:37:01 GMT -5
Well, Manfred did nothing about Turner and the other Dodgers staff and players that tested positive. There you have it.
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Post by Tim of thee on Nov 11, 2020 18:14:56 GMT -5
Well, Manfred did nothing about Turner and the other Dodgers staff and players that tested positive. There you have it. ing absurd.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Nov 16, 2020 16:29:14 GMT -5
Well, Manfred did nothing about Turner and the other Dodgers staff and players that tested positive. There you have it. Not shocked one bit.
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Post by LA Times on Nov 18, 2020 16:58:35 GMT -5
Robinson Cano popped for steroids again, will be suspended 162 game and forfeit his $24 million salary for 2021 but is still owed $48 million in 2022-23. The Mets gave up their future for this.
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Post by The Lion's Den on Nov 18, 2020 17:46:23 GMT -5
Robinson Cano popped for steroids again, will be suspended 162 game and forfeit his $24 million salary for 2021 but is still owed $48 million in 2022-23. The Mets gave up their future for this. Can they spend his 24 million this year? That would help a little.
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Post by LA Times on Nov 18, 2020 17:51:14 GMT -5
Robinson Cano popped for steroids again, will be suspended 162 game and forfeit his $24 million salary for 2021 but is still owed $48 million in 2022-23. The Mets gave up their future for this. Can they spend his 24 million this year? That would help a little. That's the good thing. The Mets can now sign 3 top free agents in one fell swoop. They should go after JT RealMeto, Trevor Bauer and DJ lemahieu or George springer.
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Post by The Lion's Den on Nov 19, 2020 0:27:53 GMT -5
Can they spend his 24 million this year? That would help a little. That's the good thing. The Mets can now sign 3 top free agents in one fell swoop. They should go after JT RealMeto, Trevor Bauer and DJ lemahieu or George springer. I don't think they need to spend on starting pitching, they're lucky to have the rotation they have. The Mets could definitely use any of the others.
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