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Post by Grenouille on Jun 28, 2021 15:56:28 GMT -5
I know quite a few Yankee fans, and for some reason the ‘09 championship is glossed over quite a bit. I really don’t understand it.
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Post by LK3 on Jun 28, 2021 16:04:16 GMT -5
I know quite a few Yankee fans, and for some reason the ‘09 championship is glossed over quite a bit. I really don’t understand it. It’s the only one we have in 20 years lol, shouldn’t be glossed over.
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Post by Grenouille on Jun 28, 2021 16:48:33 GMT -5
I know quite a few Yankee fans, and for some reason the ‘09 championship is glossed over quite a bit. I really don’t understand it. It’s the only one we have in 20 years lol, shouldn’t be glossed over. I agree. It puzzles me. There were some good players on that team that were around for a long while and that was their only ring (CC, Matsui, A-Rod, Cano).
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 28, 2021 19:56:52 GMT -5
Some fair points. How is Boone the last guy to have a big postseason hit for us? A pennant winning walk off HR is a pretty high standard for a big hit lol. Also agreed on Gardner. Granted he wasn’t supposed to be playing as much as he has, but injuries to Hicks and performance by Frazier have certainly changed that. Plus Stanton’s inability to play the field because his legs will crumble if he did. I can't think of a bigger hit that the Yankees have gotten in the postseason that had the drama and ramifications that Boone's 03 ALCSD walk off had since. That's why I said he has our last big postseason hit. Even when we won the World Series in 09, there weren't any hits that dramatic. A-Rod had a game tying 2 run HR and then Tex hit a walk off in Game 2 of the ALDS against the Twins...but it was the ALDS, and the Twins, lol. We beat the Angels in pretty standard fashion and then beat the Phillies pretty convincingly. I still maintain that's why the Yankees hired Boone. He became a Yankee legend and postseason legend off that one hit because it was against Boston and it put us in the World Series. If it wasn't for that hit, I don't think Aaron Boone is anywhere but his couch right now.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 28, 2021 20:06:06 GMT -5
George-less Yankees remind me of the times where the DeBartolo's lost ownership of the 49ers & Penguins...Crap owners that only care about a $ and not the product they put out. Sadly all 3 are favorite teams of mine so Im use to this now.
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Post by Grenouille on Jun 28, 2021 20:32:02 GMT -5
George-less Yankees remind me of the times where the DeBartolo's lost ownership of the 49ers & Penguins...Crap owners that only care about a $ and not the product they put out. Sadly all 3 are favorite teams of mine so Im use to this now. I think after George’s passing, the dynamic of Hank/Hal was interesting. Hank definitely seemed like he had more of the old man in him while Hal seems like more of a bottom line kind of guy. As a Sox fan I’m okay with Hal, but miss the fire to rivalry George or Hank might have brought.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 28, 2021 20:38:00 GMT -5
George-less Yankees remind me of the times where the DeBartolo's lost ownership of the 49ers & Penguins...Crap owners that only care about a $ and not the product they put out. Sadly all 3 are favorite teams of mine so Im use to this now. I think after George’s passing, the dynamic of Hank/Hal was interesting. Hank definitely seemed like he had more of the old man in him while Hal seems like more of a bottom line kind of guy. As a Sox fan I’m okay with Hal, but miss the fire to rivalry George or Hank might have brought. Honestly, and it may be because I dont live in the northeast but the Yankees-Sox rivalry just isnt "special" any more. One team tends to be a cellar dweller every year and the year one of or both of the teams are good, they get bounced in the ALDS or Wild Card it seems.
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Post by Grenouille on Jun 28, 2021 20:51:33 GMT -5
I think after George’s passing, the dynamic of Hank/Hal was interesting. Hank definitely seemed like he had more of the old man in him while Hal seems like more of a bottom line kind of guy. As a Sox fan I’m okay with Hal, but miss the fire to rivalry George or Hank might have brought. Honestly, and it may be because I dont live in the northeast but the Yankees-Sox rivalry just isnt "special" any more. One team tends to be a cellar dweller every year and the year one of or both of the teams are good, they get bounced in the ALDS or Wild Card it seems. The rivalry really does feel like it’s on life support in many ways. I think after the way ‘03/‘04 went it couldn’t go anywhere, but down. I remember going to quite a few Sox/Ys games at Fenway from ‘03-‘07 and there was definitely a buzz in the stands that was just different. When I went in 2019 it was gone and they might as well have been playing the Royals or some other random team.
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Post by LK3 on Jun 28, 2021 22:25:03 GMT -5
Some fair points. How is Boone the last guy to have a big postseason hit for us? A pennant winning walk off HR is a pretty high standard for a big hit lol. Also agreed on Gardner. Granted he wasn’t supposed to be playing as much as he has, but injuries to Hicks and performance by Frazier have certainly changed that. Plus Stanton’s inability to play the field because his legs will crumble if he did. I can't think of a bigger hit that the Yankees have gotten in the postseason that had the drama and ramifications that Boone's 03 ALCSD walk off had since. That's why I said he has our last big postseason hit. Even when we won the World Series in 09, there weren't any hits that dramatic. A-Rod had a game tying 2 run HR and then Tex hit a walk off in Game 2 of the ALDS against the Twins...but it was the ALDS, and the Twins, lol. We beat the Angels in pretty standard fashion and then beat the Phillies pretty convincingly. I still maintain that's why the Yankees hired Boone. He became a Yankee legend and postseason legend off that one hit because it was against Boston and it put us in the World Series. If it wasn't for that hit, I don't think Aaron Boone is anywhere but his couch right now. No, none bigger than Boone's HR, but that was kind of my point. That's a high bar. Everything you mentioned about the ALDS against the Twins, those are big. We own the Twins, but that doesn't mean there aren't big hits along the way. A-Rod also tied one of those ALCS games with a HR in extra innings. So that series could've potentially gone to game 7. Didi's 3-R HR in the Wild Card game against the Twins, big. Raul Ibanez against the Orioles.
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Post by Chip on Jun 29, 2021 9:29:41 GMT -5
I dont believe Stanton would crumble if he played the field. I think he went through a bad stretch where his legs kept getting hurt, so they decided he's better off as a full time DH So instead of staying loose and fresh, now he's going from doing nothing for an hour, to swinging hard and running hard. No wonder he keeps pulling muscles. I don't understand why they won't let him play left. You can use that DH spot a lot more than just letting Stanton (who ISNT even old) sit there and rot every game The Yankees are a ing mess. Every day there's a different lineup, a different defense. DJ is playing all over the place, They've been putting JUDGE in center field for 's sake. No wonder these guys can't play consistently, they don't even have it. They think they can just put anyone at any spot, and have all different batting lineups because thats going to "play the matchup"....but its failing all the time, so how is that even good?
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 29, 2021 12:35:05 GMT -5
I know quite a few Yankee fans, and for some reason the ‘09 championship is glossed over quite a bit. I really don’t understand it. A-Rod?
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 29, 2021 12:35:52 GMT -5
Some fair points. How is Boone the last guy to have a big postseason hit for us? A pennant winning walk off HR is a pretty high standard for a big hit lol. Also agreed on Gardner. Granted he wasn’t supposed to be playing as much as he has, but injuries to Hicks and performance by Frazier have certainly changed that. Plus Stanton’s inability to play the field because his legs will crumble if he did. I can't think of a bigger hit that the Yankees have gotten in the postseason that had the drama and ramifications that Boone's 03 ALCSD walk off had since. That's why I said he has our last big postseason hit. Even when we won the World Series in 09, there weren't any hits that dramatic. A-Rod had a game tying 2 run HR and then Tex hit a walk off in Game 2 of the ALDS against the Twins...but it was the ALDS, and the Twins, lol. We beat the Angels in pretty standard fashion and then beat the Phillies pretty convincingly. I still maintain that's why the Yankees hired Boone. He became a Yankee legend and postseason legend off that one hit because it was against Boston and it put us in the World Series. If it wasn't for that hit, I don't think Aaron Boone is anywhere but his couch right now. That Boone HR killed me. I wanted to stop watching baseball altogether after that.
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Post by Grenouille on Jun 29, 2021 13:38:44 GMT -5
[/quote]That Boone HR killed me. I wanted to stop watching baseball altogether after that.[/quote]
I was in a dorm room down in Florida with a bunch of others from New England. I'll always remember one guy's beer bottle being thrown into a wall and instead of breaking just being stuck where it stayed the rest of the semester. It's pretty much between this and Super Bowl XLII as the worst sports fan experiences in my life.
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Post by LK3 on Jun 30, 2021 2:07:54 GMT -5
I was in a dorm room down in Florida with a bunch of others from New England. I'll always remember one guy's beer bottle being thrown into a wall and instead of breaking just being stuck where it stayed the rest of the semester. It's pretty much between this and Super Bowl XLII as the worst sports fan experiences in my life The events of the following year had to make up for it, a little bit I'm sure.
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Post by Grenouille on Jun 30, 2021 9:11:12 GMT -5
I was in a dorm room down in Florida with a bunch of others from New England. I'll always remember one guy's beer bottle being thrown into a wall and instead of breaking just being stuck where it stayed the rest of the semester. It's pretty much between this and Super Bowl XLII as the worst sports fan experiences in my life The events of the following year had to make up for it, a little bit I'm sure.
Absolutely. 17 years and with 4 championships in their pocket it’s still hard to believe.
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Post by LA Times on Jun 30, 2021 19:25:15 GMT -5
Shohei Ohtani's nickname should be "7 Runs in the 1st Inning".
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 30, 2021 19:39:17 GMT -5
The events of the following year had to make up for it, a little bit I'm sure.
Absolutely. 17 years and with 4 championships in their pocket it’s still hard to believe. I refused to complain. Until they dealt Mookie. That hurt really bad.
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Post by Grenouille on Jun 30, 2021 20:33:36 GMT -5
Absolutely. 17 years and with 4 championships in their pocket it’s still hard to believe. I refused to complain. Until they dealt Mookie. That hurt really bad. I hated the Betts deal. Now after some time I do wonder if Mookie really wanted to stay in Boston? In his last season with the Sox he was pretty adamant about testing free agency and finding his “worth”. A few months after the trade he signs the mega contract with the LAD without testing free agency. Not really sure a straight answer will ever be given, at least for the time being while he’s an active player.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 30, 2021 20:36:16 GMT -5
I refused to complain. Until they dealt Mookie. That hurt really bad. I hated the Betts deal. Now after some time I do wonder if Mookie really wanted to stay in Boston? In his last season with the Sox he was pretty adamant about testing free agency and finding his “worth”. A few months after the trade he signs the mega contract with the LAD without testing free agency. Not really sure a straight answer will ever be given, at least for the time being while he’s an active player. He said that he didn’t want to leave, but his actions spoke otherwise. It still hurts.
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Post by LK3 on Jun 30, 2021 22:45:04 GMT -5
Lol Ohtani.
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