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Post by LK3 on Nov 29, 2021 17:17:02 GMT -5
Why are the Rangers SS central, are they gonna sign Correa too?
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Post by LA Times on Nov 29, 2021 19:04:07 GMT -5
How does Robbie Ray, the reigning AL Cy Young end up on Seattle for only 5 years, $115 million? That's an embarrassingly bad deal with so many contending teams looking for pitching. This one's got me shook. Not only that, the Blue Jays gave Kevin Gausman the same contract and he has one year wonder written all over him along with a history of getting shelled in the AL East.
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Post by LK3 on Nov 30, 2021 8:57:56 GMT -5
As an opponent of Toronto, Iβll take that swap any day.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 30, 2021 10:27:41 GMT -5
I think the Yankees might be finally throwing in the towel, and honestly, it makes sense. They need a tear down and they need a few years in last place to be able to accumulate the type of draft picks that when those players finally come up, they are sure superstars.
The Yankees, by virtue of always having a pretty decent regular season win/loss record, get awful Draft picks. Our "best player", Aaron Judge, was a surprise that he even ended up being good. He was drafted 32 in the first round. You know how many people had to pass on him for him to even end up with us?
There are players that from the moment they get drafted, you just know that's a future superstar. The Yankees have none of that. The Yankees can't get those players. That's why they've become so mediocre.
I think the Yankees realize that, and I think that's why they aren't doing anything this offseason. They see how much work and how much money it would take to actually attempt to fix this team, and I think they realize that with as good as Tampa, Toronto, and Boston are (all 3 teams that are still getting better), that the odds are you STILL end up in the Wild Card game OR missing the Playoffs all together....it's not worth it.
The 2022 Boston Red Sox, Tampa Bay Rays, and Toronto Blue Jays will all be better than they were in 2021...the Yankees will not. I think the Yankees realize that those teams are going up and we are currently in a down slide, so it's just not a good time right now to do anything.
Instead of make trades, spend a ton of money, and struggle all year to win 85 games and miss the Playoffs....tank, lose 110 games for a few years, get some kick ass draft picks, and maybe in 7-10 years the Yankees will have a rebuilt core of Superstars that can turn this team back into a Dynasty.
If I was Cashman, I'd be working right now to trade Judge, Gallo, Stanton, Gleyber Torres, and I'd non-tender Voit and Sanchez, and I'd hope that after 2024 that Gerrit Cole opts out, unless they can trade him too.
This team needs a complete and total tear down. If they don't tear it down and continue to try and put a Band-Aid on a gunshot wound every year....my prediction is that the Baltimore Orioles will win the World Series before the Yankees do again.
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Post by Evil Abed on Nov 30, 2021 15:27:20 GMT -5
I think its more that the Yankees were waiting until after the lockout thinking they could get certain guys cheaper right before the season and I think its backfiring in a big way. Yankees are not a team that throws in the towel, as much as they should have in some recent years and rebuild. They canβt justify their ticket prices and merch, licensing rights deals, etcβ¦ while they are rebuilding their team. So for that reason alone I dont see them trying to tear it down, not that I think theyβd find many buyers of their current roster anyways.
Judge would probably be their biggest fish to offer for prospects.
Sanchez is one of the worst defensive catchers in the league and now heβs lucky if heβs batting .200 at the end of the year.
Stanton with his monster contract isnt going anywhere, Yanks got duped into that one by the Marlins.
Same goes for Cole, after the βsticky stuffβ investigation he hasnβt been the same pitcher, no one is picking up his contract in a trade. Heβs not opting out of his deal, heβd make less money elsewhere.
Gleyber this last year also has been very hit/miss. While they could probably move him most likely after Judge, I dont know how much theyβd get back in prospects.
My biggest fear is that theyβve sat back for too long thinking guys wouldnβt sign before the lockout and weβre now going to be stuck with paying some $300 million dollar deal to Carlos Correa, just about the last person I want to see on the Yankees. Just because investors, fans, reporters, etcβ¦ will start to ask why we didnt make a splash in the offseason and theyβll almost be backed into a corner to go get someone with name value. Which again weβll find ourselves in 2-3 years trying to figure out how to now get rid of.
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Post by LK3 on Nov 30, 2021 17:25:12 GMT -5
Baseball is the hardest sport to hit on in the draft. You never know if someone is gonna be a good big league players, or even make it to the majors, whether they are #1 or #32 or round 20. Itβs a crapshoot.
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Post by Chip on Nov 30, 2021 18:48:00 GMT -5
in my opinion the draft is the least of my worries with this team. its the group of guys they have RIGHT NOW are not working. you need to shuffle things around and get some different players in here to see what they can do. rather than tank the next decade
the Yankees should have signed Ray, Story & Rizzo. Trade/Dump Voit & Hicks. and then started looking in the bargain bin for bench/depth players
if they go in to 2022 with a lineup of
DJ (DH) Story (SS) Judge (RF) Stanton (LF) Rizzo (1B) Gleyber (2B) Gallo (CF) Sanchez (C) Urshela (3B)
they would give any team a run for their money.
then a rotation of Cole, Sevy, Ray, Monty, German...is good enough. baseball is changing to this absolutely ridiculous model of no pitcher is going to ever see a batter 3 times because nerd analytics. So in the end it matters zilch who your 5th starter is, and its all about the bullpen because people pay for tickets to see a hundred pitching changes in a game ::eye rolls::
anyway, you take that lineup out there they would win a lot more than they did this year.
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Post by LA Times on Dec 1, 2021 20:25:35 GMT -5
Cubs sign Marcus Stroman 3 years/$71 million.
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Post by LA Times on Dec 29, 2021 19:26:32 GMT -5
Kyle Seager retired even though he hit 35 HRs/101 RBIs last season.
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Post by The Lion's Den on Dec 30, 2021 14:10:52 GMT -5
Kyle Seager retired even though he hit 35 HRs/101 RBIs last season. The counting stats look good, the more advanced numbers do not. However, great career and a fan favourite in Seattle. I guess he's going out on a high note.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 12, 2022 19:18:57 GMT -5
Jon Lester retired.
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Post by The Lion's Den on Jan 25, 2022 8:30:08 GMT -5
These stalls in negotiations are killing me. There is an emptiness that is free agency.
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Post by Grenouille on Jan 25, 2022 18:28:02 GMT -5
Add a HOF ring now.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 25, 2022 19:58:21 GMT -5
Grenouille Well deserved. Curt Schilling, Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens didnt get in on their final year on the ballot. Todd Helton shouldve also gotten in.
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Post by dollarbill04 on Jan 25, 2022 20:05:21 GMT -5
Congrats, Big Papi! Greatest clutch hitter of all-time!!
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 26, 2022 9:32:27 GMT -5
David Ortiz is a prime example that personality matters in baseball. David Ortiz used steroids. He failed the same baseline test in 03 that A-Rod was crucified for. But because he's Big Papi and he's funny and big cuddly teddy bear and everyone loves him, people looked the other way.
But A-Rod, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Gary Sheffield.....they were not as amicable with the media. They had "attitude" problems as players and rubbed some people (in the media specifically) the wrong way, so they were made to pay for that.
It is absolutely hypocritical that the same people who say they would not vote for Bonds and Clemens (never failed a test) or A-Rod because of PED's, but they turned around and voted for David Ortiz who failed the same test as A-Rod....it's ridiculous.
Clemens and Bonds and A-Rod will all still get in someday. It'll take 20 years, but it'll happen. The fans and the players overwhelmingly want Bonds and Clemens in. It'll happen one day. Jim Kaat just got in on a Veterans Committee vote and his last game was legit 39 years ago....so there are other means of getting into the Hall of Fame besides a straight up writers vote.
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Post by βππ£π ππ ππππ on Jan 26, 2022 9:58:37 GMT -5
David Ortiz is a prime example that personality matters in baseball. David Ortiz used steroids. He failed the same baseline test in 03 that A-Rod was crucified for. But because he's Big Papi and he's funny and big cuddly teddy bear and everyone loves him, people looked the other way. But A-Rod, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Gary Sheffield.....they were not as amicable with the media. They had "attitude" problems as players and rubbed some people (in the media specifically) the wrong way, so they were made to pay for that. It is absolutely hypocritical that the same people who say they would not vote for Bonds and Clemens (never failed a test) or A-Rod because of PED's, but they turned around and voted for David Ortiz who failed the same test as A-Rod....it's ridiculous. Clemens and Bonds and A-Rod will all still get in someday. It'll take 20 years, but it'll happen. The fans and the players overwhelmingly want Bonds and Clemens in. It'll happen one day. Jim Kaat just got in on a Veterans Committee vote and his last game was legit 39 years ago....so there are other means of getting into the Hall of Fame besides a straight up writers vote. Total bulls*** that Bonds is scrapped from the ticket now. What a joke. David Ortiz's head also grew one size up each season, if you pay close enough attention.
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Jan 26, 2022 12:06:02 GMT -5
Looking at next years ballot we only have two that will some consideration, Carlos Beltran and Francisco Rodriguez. K-Rod doesnt get much hype, but he sits at #12 all-time for relievers based on JAWS.
with the big 4 off the ballot I see Rolen getting in next year and Todd Helton gaining major ground.
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Post by Chip on Jan 26, 2022 18:07:06 GMT -5
when you have Craig Biggio in your hall of fame but not Barry Bonds....you're hall of fame is a ing joke. baseball needs to get its head out of it's ass. 400 "writers" shouldnt be deciding who is and isn't a hall of fame player
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Post by Grenouille on Jan 26, 2022 20:34:33 GMT -5
when you have Craig Biggio in your hall of fame but not Barry Bonds....you're hall of fame is a ing joke. baseball needs to get its head out of it's ass. 400 "writers" shouldnt be deciding who is and isn't a hall of fame player I love baseball, but canβt stand the faux air of moral superiority it carries sometimes. The PEDs were part of the game and those guys should be in the hall. Bonds, A-Rod, Sosa and as much as it pains me Ohio Billy Clemens. The BBWAA needs to be scraped or majorly overhauled. Way too many writers submitting blank ballots or being cute by voting one person. Some guy voted just for Billy Wagner.
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