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Post by LA Times on Jul 10, 2017 21:11:55 GMT -5
My Midseason predictions:
American League AL East-Yankees AL Central-Indians AL West-Astros AL Wild Card 1-Twins AL Wild Card 2-Rays
National League NL East-Nationals NL Central-Brewers NL West-Dodgers NL Wild Card 1-Diamondbacks NL Wild Card 2-Cardinals
AL Champion-Yankees NL Champion-Dodgers
World Series Champion-Yankees
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Post by Chip on Jul 11, 2017 16:30:23 GMT -5
Aaron ing Judge
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Post by sean™ on Jul 11, 2017 21:30:16 GMT -5
I voted roughly 700 times for Moose. I don't regret it a bit.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 13, 2017 12:39:34 GMT -5
Jose Quintana traded to the Cubs.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 13, 2017 16:19:26 GMT -5
Jose Quintana traded to the Cubs. Really happy with the trade. The Sox got a nice haul and the Cubs got the arm they need this year to make up for Lackey dropping off the face of the Earth and helps fill the void for when Arrieta is gone. I can't believe it happened but I'm happy with it. 3 years of Q for dirt cheap after this season too. Lester/Hendricks/Q puts them in position to sign one big arm and they likely have a top 5 rotation for a few years, as always pending health.
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Post by Quanthor on Jul 13, 2017 18:13:52 GMT -5
Really hoping the Giants trade away a lot of guys. Span, Nunez, Cueto, Melancon. Start there and definitely consider Crawford and Belt too. The Giants need to bolster their farm. Do it now and hopefully they can make one last run with Buster/Bumgarner
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 14, 2017 12:06:31 GMT -5
Michael Pineda is having Tommy John surgery. If I'm the Yankees, Chance Adams makes him MLB debut on Monday in Minnesota.
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Post by Chip on Jul 14, 2017 16:22:59 GMT -5
Michael Pineda is having Tommy John surgery. If I'm the Yankees, Chance Adams makes him MLB debut on Monday in Minnesota. which means either Luis Cessa or Adam Warren start......
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Post by LA Times on Jul 14, 2017 16:56:30 GMT -5
Pablo Sandoval DFAd by the Red Sox with over 2 yrs/$40 million remaining on his contract. Quite possibly the biggest waste of money of all time.
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Post by sean™ on Jul 14, 2017 21:08:16 GMT -5
Pablo Sandoval DFAd by the Red Sox with over 2 yrs/$40 million remaining on his contract. Quite possibly the biggest waste of money of all time. He can burn in hell for all I care.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 14, 2017 22:58:36 GMT -5
I'm starting to get fed up with this Yankees bullpen. This is not the part of the team that should be the problem, but either Betances, Clippard or Chapman find a way to blow every game.
It's frustrating because the Yankees have the lead in every game late and some combination or one or more of those 3 guys just always blow it.
Can't keep watching this too much longer.
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Post by Chip on Jul 15, 2017 11:52:20 GMT -5
90 million dollars for a closer who throws 100mph fastballs OFF the plate...... i really think Girardi needs to step the up and tell Chapman he's done as the closer for the time being. Betances looks like he's better, and he did fine in that role when Chapman was out....put Dellin in as the closer and bump Chapman back....i bet that will help him find the ing strike zone again. Clippard should be DFA'ed. Enough of him, he's TERRIBLE. I'm good with Warren, Green & Shreve as the middle inning guys, hell...Chad Green has pitched better than anyone in the bullpen at this point. Either way the Yankees need MAJOR help. It's time for Cashman to start dealing. Lets get Sonny Gray, David Robertson, David Phelps...literally anyone is better than what they have at this point
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Post by IRS on Jul 16, 2017 17:59:51 GMT -5
The Braves are sitting at .500, while the Phillies just won their 30th goddamn game. Just fire everyone and hire some ing little leaguers.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 17, 2017 10:00:36 GMT -5
90 million dollars for a closer who throws 100mph fastballs OFF the plate...... i really think Girardi needs to step the up and tell Chapman he's done as the closer for the time being. Betances looks like he's better, and he did fine in that role when Chapman was out....put Dellin in as the closer and bump Chapman back....i bet that will help him find the ing strike zone again. Clippard should be DFA'ed. Enough of him, he's TERRIBLE. I'm good with Warren, Green & Shreve as the middle inning guys, hell...Chad Green has pitched better than anyone in the bullpen at this point. Either way the Yankees need MAJOR help. It's time for Cashman to start dealing. Lets get Sonny Gray, David Robertson, David Phelps...literally anyone is better than what they have at this point The Yankees shouldn't do anything. This was not a year when we were supposed to do anything anyway. 2017 was always supposed to be a transition/rebuilding year where you use your young players and develop them and find out what they are made out of. That's why we made all those trades last year because we wanted to stockpile the farm system and get more young players. The Yankees should not do anything that we would have to give up any young players for. I would trade CC Sabathia, Matt Holliday, Brett Gardner, Chase Headley, and try and trick somebody into taking Ellsbuy off our hands before I allowed another team to get even one of our prospects away from us. I would be in full unload-mode to try and free up as many roster spots being taken up by guys who are 32 years old or older to make way for young players. Everyone got all riled up by the hot start the Yankees got off to, but we can't let that cause us to make a move that isn't smart for our future. This team doesn't have what it takes to win the World Series this year anyway, so it's best to just stick with the plan and keep getting younger and younger than to make a bad move trying to save 2017 which was never supposed to be anything anyway. But like I said, when they lose, it's either Tanaka or the bullpen...and when it's the bullpen it's Chapman, Betances, and Clippard. Based on the money, you can't do anything there. Even if you get David Robertson, what's he going to be the closer? You're going to take the $18 million dollar Aroldis Chapman and have him not close? Before the Nats got Doolittle and Madson, I was going to say maybe they'd take CC and Chapman....but obviously now it's not going to happen. As long as Aroldis Chapman is on this team and not on the DL, he's going to be the closer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 15:32:53 GMT -5
Carlos Correa is out 6-8 weeks with a torn thumb ligament.
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Post by Chip on Jul 18, 2017 18:35:15 GMT -5
90 million dollars for a closer who throws 100mph fastballs OFF the plate...... i really think Girardi needs to step the up and tell Chapman he's done as the closer for the time being. Betances looks like he's better, and he did fine in that role when Chapman was out....put Dellin in as the closer and bump Chapman back....i bet that will help him find the ing strike zone again. Clippard should be DFA'ed. Enough of him, he's TERRIBLE. I'm good with Warren, Green & Shreve as the middle inning guys, hell...Chad Green has pitched better than anyone in the bullpen at this point. Either way the Yankees need MAJOR help. It's time for Cashman to start dealing. Lets get Sonny Gray, David Robertson, David Phelps...literally anyone is better than what they have at this point The Yankees shouldn't do anything. This was not a year when we were supposed to do anything anyway. 2017 was always supposed to be a transition/rebuilding year where you use your young players and develop them and find out what they are made out of. That's why we made all those trades last year because we wanted to stockpile the farm system and get more young players. The Yankees should not do anything that we would have to give up any young players for. I would trade CC Sabathia, Matt Holliday, Brett Gardner, Chase Headley, and try and trick somebody into taking Ellsbuy off our hands before I allowed another team to get even one of our prospects away from us. I would be in full unload-mode to try and free up as many roster spots being taken up by guys who are 32 years old or older to make way for young players. Everyone got all riled up by the hot start the Yankees got off to, but we can't let that cause us to make a move that isn't smart for our future. This team doesn't have what it takes to win the World Series this year anyway, so it's best to just stick with the plan and keep getting younger and younger than to make a bad move trying to save 2017 which was never supposed to be anything anyway. But like I said, when they lose, it's either Tanaka or the bullpen...and when it's the bullpen it's Chapman, Betances, and Clippard. Based on the money, you can't do anything there. Even if you get David Robertson, what's he going to be the closer? You're going to take the $18 million dollar Aroldis Chapman and have him not close? Before the Nats got Doolittle and Madson, I was going to say maybe they'd take CC and Chapman....but obviously now it's not going to happen. As long as Aroldis Chapman is on this team and not on the DL, he's going to be the closer. i disagree....if there are trades to be made and the prices are right, i think they absolutely should try to improve and solidify this team and make a run. you never know in baseball, teams get hot...its not like the NBA where all you need is 3 players and you dominate. look at the Giants....they won 3 WS titles with pretty average teams, but got hot in the playoffs i say try to bring in D-Rob, then you have close to what they had last year with dellin/miller/chapman (3 "dominant" guys....shortens almost every game)....try to get Sonny Gray from the A's....we're gonna need a Pineda replacement anyway, i'm letting him walk after this season as it is. And see if we can get something at 1st base in case this Cooper kid turns out to be a bust. I'd love to get rid of Headley and Ellsbury but nobody is taking those contracts, and I'd rather just keep them than eat the money. With as good as this team was early in the season I'd bet they could find that again. If Joe stops putting Tyler Clippard in games. A few pieces makes this team a legit playoff contender, they are better than the Red Sox overall....only advantage Sox have is Sale & Kimbrel TBH...And they've proven they can beat Houston. This might have been a "rebuild" year....but I'm not ready to call it quits because they went into the shitter for awhile. Like I said, if the deals are right....I'm making them. I'm not emptying the farm, but I believe there's always a way to work things out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 18:53:19 GMT -5
Arizona got JD Martinez from Detroit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 21:00:21 GMT -5
White Sox in full fire sale mode as they are close to dealing Frazier and Robertson to the Yankees.
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Post by IRS on Jul 18, 2017 22:11:42 GMT -5
White Sox in full fire sale mode as they are close to dealing Frazier and Robertson to the Yankees. And Kahnle.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 19, 2017 10:47:58 GMT -5
The Yankees/Sox trade was interesting. Frazier is a rental who is having a down year. I know the Yankees have had a ton of struggles at first, but I like Choi and Cooper fighting for it and Headley and Frazier are interchangeable at third, with Fazier better in the field right now and Headley better at the plate, with neither being much more than a 2WAR on the season either way. So the trade doesn't do much for them in the field and I think the trade really had to be about the bullpen pieces.
They gave away a 20 year old prospect who is a hard 3 years away. He's a top 100 spec though. So I think they could have traded him for something better. I know they have a surplus of OFers but they needed to look to package as much as possible for starting pitching imo, specifically Sonny Gray. I guess conversely, fans should be thankful they didn't give up more to get Yonder Alonso, whose year at the plate makes no sense, but he still sucks at first. He would have easily cost them more and when you're more than one player away, you don't make that move.
I do agree with the sentiment that they showed up a year too early. They're the 2015 Cubs right now. They started putting it together before they were supposed to and I think they'll likely be a WC team. That being said, they don't have the pitching to go the distance. That's why they need to go after a young controllable pitcher as hard as possible before the end of the month. It helps them this year and makes their offseason so much easier.
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