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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Aug 1, 2017 10:20:53 GMT -5
time will tell if the Sonny Gray trade was "worth it"....but on the surface, i like the deal. i hope Gray is good, and not what his numbers against the AL east show....and i hope that he continues to be good through his contract and they sign him for a few more years after that. and that he becomes a rotation standard, and not a flash in the pan. Totally worth it. Clint Frazier has made Dustin Fowler expendable, and in the case of Mateo and Kaprielian, we weren't going to be able to protect them from the rule 5 draft anyway, so they would have gotten taken and we would have gotten NOTHING. That's what most people don't get about baseball, you can't hoard prospects in MLB because you just can't protect everyone from the rule 5, so you have to evaluate them and protect the top ones, package others, and some just get left out there and you see what happens. But the ones you know for sure would get taken but ones that you don't want to protect, you have to deal or they are totally wasted. Plus, Cashman got 1.5 million in international signing money in the deal. Gray under team control through 19 and the 1.5, plus clearing some roster space makes this deal great in all aspects for the Yankees.
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Post by Chip on Aug 1, 2017 12:28:00 GMT -5
time will tell if the Sonny Gray trade was "worth it"....but on the surface, i like the deal. i hope Gray is good, and not what his numbers against the AL east show....and i hope that he continues to be good through his contract and they sign him for a few more years after that. and that he becomes a rotation standard, and not a flash in the pan. Totally worth it. Clint Frazier has made Dustin Fowler expendable, and in the case of Mateo and Kaprielian, we weren't going to be able to protect them from the rule 5 draft anyway, so they would have gotten taken and we would have gotten NOTHING. That's what most people don't get about baseball, you can't hoard prospects in MLB because you just can't protect everyone from the rule 5, so you have to evaluate them and protect the top ones, package others, and some just get left out there and you see what happens. But the ones you know for sure would get taken but ones that you don't want to protect, you have to deal or they are totally wasted. Plus, Cashman got 1.5 million in international signing money in the deal. Gray under team control through 19 and the 1.5, plus clearing some roster space makes this deal great in all aspects for the Yankees. sorry...should have been clearer.... what i meant by "worth it" is that i hope he doesnt turn into another nathan eovaldi...where he's pretty good, but really never good enough. gray's numbers against the AL east are kind of ugly, now its probably a small sample size, and he's still young....but as with any pitcher you just never know what you're getting. so what i really hope is that we're getting a very good and reliable #2 or #3 starter for the next 3 years (maybe more) because if not, there would have been potential other trades we could have used those prospects for. but thats only based on the results. however i love the deal, it was the right move, at the right time, and its really what this team needed.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Aug 1, 2017 12:41:20 GMT -5
Totally worth it. Clint Frazier has made Dustin Fowler expendable, and in the case of Mateo and Kaprielian, we weren't going to be able to protect them from the rule 5 draft anyway, so they would have gotten taken and we would have gotten NOTHING. That's what most people don't get about baseball, you can't hoard prospects in MLB because you just can't protect everyone from the rule 5, so you have to evaluate them and protect the top ones, package others, and some just get left out there and you see what happens. But the ones you know for sure would get taken but ones that you don't want to protect, you have to deal or they are totally wasted. Plus, Cashman got 1.5 million in international signing money in the deal. Gray under team control through 19 and the 1.5, plus clearing some roster space makes this deal great in all aspects for the Yankees. sorry...should have been clearer.... what i meant by "worth it" is that i hope he doesnt turn into another nathan eovaldi...where he's pretty good, but really never good enough. gray's numbers against the AL east are kind of ugly, now its probably a small sample size, and he's still young....but as with any pitcher you just never know what you're getting. so what i really hope is that we're getting a very good and reliable #2 or #3 starter for the next 3 years (maybe more) because if not, there would have been potential other trades we could have used those prospects for. but thats only based on the results. however i love the deal, it was the right move, at the right time, and its really what this team needed. Like you said, any sign/trade is rolling the dice. He could get to Cleveland and slip on something in the clubhouse and not pitch at all the rest of this year. He's had DL time in each of the last 3 seasons, so that's a possibility. Sometimes you get Mike Mussina and David Cone, other times you get Carl Pavano and Kevin Brown. Hopefully he's good. If he is, we've got a young, cheap, effective starting pitcher for at least the next 2 years. If not, the Yankees have money coming off the books and 2018 will have a base rotation of Masahiro Tanaka (barring opt out, which I doubt), Luis Severino, Jordan Montgomery, and Chance Adams. They can figure out a 5th guy if injury/ineffectiveness were to unfortunately occur with Sonny.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Aug 3, 2017 20:09:32 GMT -5
Yanks are like "I wonder what it would be like if we just don't score for the rest of the season".
When it's almost Friday and you haven't scored since Tuesday......sigh.
Bye bye first place.
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Post by LA Times on Aug 4, 2017 20:02:05 GMT -5
The Dodgers gave Yu Darvish Zack Greinke's old jersey
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Post by IRS on Aug 4, 2017 22:19:13 GMT -5
Alfaro officially called up. Please produce, please produce, please produce...
Crawford looks like he's finally figuring it out after a slow start in AAA, too. Phew.
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Post by dodgerman on Aug 5, 2017 10:54:01 GMT -5
The Dodgers gave Yu Darvish Zack Greinke's old jersey I did see that, I wonder what kind message they are sending.
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Post by IRS on Aug 6, 2017 1:01:34 GMT -5
I feel like I'm gonna end up backing the Dodgers in the Postseason this year. Not because I particularly like or care about them, but I want to see Chase get another ring.
(And then come home because I miss him and it's gonna be a couple years before Kingery comes up)
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Post by MidCardMarks on Aug 6, 2017 7:10:32 GMT -5
Patiently waiting for the Braves to become relevant again...
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Post by LA Times on Aug 6, 2017 20:45:21 GMT -5
I feel like I'm gonna end up backing the Dodgers in the Postseason this year. Not because I particularly like or care about them, but I want to see Chase get another ring. (And then come home because I miss him and it's gonna be a couple years before Kingery comes up) Dodgers president Andrew Friedman seems to love the 2008 Phillies who kicked Tampa Bay's ass in the World Series when he was GM there. He signed or traded for Jimmy Rollins, Chase Utley, Fat Joe Blanton and Carlos Ruiz
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Post by IRS on Aug 6, 2017 21:24:14 GMT -5
I feel like I'm gonna end up backing the Dodgers in the Postseason this year. Not because I particularly like or care about them, but I want to see Chase get another ring. (And then come home because I miss him and it's gonna be a couple years before Kingery comes up) Dodgers president Andrew Friedman seems to love the 2008 Phillies who kicked Tampa Bay's ass in the World Series when he was GM there. He signed or traded for Jimmy Rollins, Chase Utley, Fat Joe Blanton and Carlos Ruiz Don't forget Victorino!
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Post by King Richius on Aug 7, 2017 14:16:00 GMT -5
Don Baylor and Darren Daulton passed away. It's a rough day for baseball.
R.I.P.
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Post by IRS on Aug 7, 2017 16:49:21 GMT -5
Don Baylor and Darren Daulton passed away. It's a rough day for baseball. R.I.P. So sad. Dutch used to host a baseball talk show on the local sports radio station during the Phillies season. Always was a great listen.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Aug 8, 2017 11:33:29 GMT -5
I believe the next two weeks is going to tell the tale for the 2017 New York Yankees.
3 in Toronto. We've struggled against them since 2015. 3 vs Boston. 4 vs Mets. Even in seasons when the Mets are out of it, they play us hard to prove a point. 3 vs Boston in Boston. Fenway is always a disaster for us.
Hopefully the Yankees offense shows up to these games. It's been a red hot/ice cold situation recently. No in-between. We either get 0-2 runs, or 8+. You never know which team will show up.
This is a critical stretch for the Yankees. 10-3 is the worst they probably want to go in this stretch if they want to win the Division, especially with 6 of them coming against Boston.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 11:55:10 GMT -5
This is probably the biggest stretch of the season for New York.
If they tank this, the chances of winning the division go way down.
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Post by Chip on Aug 9, 2017 13:07:50 GMT -5
i have zero faith in this team coming together in this stretch they CANT SCORE RUNS. it's embarrassing. flat out pathetic. the pitching has been good, but you can't give up 4 runs a night when your offense cant score more than 2. im getting unbelievably annoyed every night with how utterly putrid the yankees offense is. its going to take a ing miracle for them to come out of this
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Post by LA Times on Aug 9, 2017 21:02:36 GMT -5
Mets trade Jay Bruce to the Indians after the Yankees cleaned out that farm system
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Post by dodgerman on Aug 12, 2017 14:59:01 GMT -5
It was scary watching Rich Hill get hit in the throat, trying to bunt.
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Post by LA Times on Aug 13, 2017 14:32:12 GMT -5
Phillies prospect Rhys Hoskins finally got a hit after a million at bats.
Also, are Freddy Galvis, Odubel Herrera and Maikel Franco the same person?
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Post by IRS on Aug 13, 2017 16:08:01 GMT -5
Phillies prospect Rhys Hoskins finally got a hit after a million at bats. Also, are Freddy Galvis, Odubel Herrera and Maikel Franco the same person? No. You can tell by the fact that Odubel and Freddy can at least hit above .230... On the bright side, Alfaro continues to hit well. Just needs to get some plate discipline. And Manny Machado is a free agent soon.
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