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Post by Mark Martin on Jan 23, 2018 22:23:03 GMT -5
Chipper and Hoffman should definitely get in this year.
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Post by BROKEN on Jan 24, 2018 10:40:45 GMT -5
I feel like Thome was very underrated as a player. He was a beast. In an era of roided up sluggers, he's probably in the conversation for being the best clean hitter throughout that period. And he's genuinely an awesome person. So glad he got that second run in Philly, even if it didn't last long. Shame he never won a World Series. He was on the twins team with Prime Mauer, Morneau, Kubel, Span. What a lineup.
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Post by jeffro2000 on Jan 24, 2018 16:31:42 GMT -5
Sounds like Chipper, Thome, & Vlad are locks.
Hoffman is expected to get in. Also E. Martinez is expected to be close.
Will be interesting to see where Bonds and Clemons are and see which way Mussina/Schilling are trending.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 24, 2018 18:41:32 GMT -5
Chipper Jones, Vladimir Guerrero, Jim Thome and Trevor Hoffman are going into the MLB Hall of Fame. I dont think Hoffman should be in. The guy was a choke artist.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 25, 2018 11:09:48 GMT -5
Mussina will get in next year. It's a weak class besides Mariano Rivera. I predict the 2019 class is:
Mariano Rivera Edgar Martinez Mike Mussina
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Post by LA Times on Jan 25, 2018 18:14:29 GMT -5
Mussina will get in next year. It's a weak class besides Mariano Rivera. I predict the 2019 class is: Mariano Rivera Edgar Martinez Mike Mussina Roy Halladay?
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Post by LA Times on Jan 25, 2018 20:25:53 GMT -5
Brewers traded for Christian Yelich and signed Lorenzo Cain for 5 yrs/$80 million. What are they doing? They have 5 outfielders now but need a top of the rotation starter.
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Post by Mark Martin on Jan 25, 2018 23:19:03 GMT -5
Mariano should get close to 100%. It's never happened before (I think), and with 400+ ballots there's always a chance one guy doesn't have him on there, but if anyone is gonna be the first, it's him.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 26, 2018 0:55:37 GMT -5
Mussina will get in next year. It's a weak class besides Mariano Rivera. I predict the 2019 class is: Mariano Rivera Edgar Martinez Mike Mussina Roy Halladay? I think his career was too short, he doesn't have the stats, and I think he lost the sympathy votes when it came back that he was drunk and on like 5 different drugs when he died.
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Post by LK3 on Jan 26, 2018 5:06:34 GMT -5
Mariano should get close to 100%. It's never happened before (I think), and with 400+ ballots there's always a chance one guy doesn't have him on there, but if anyone is gonna be the first, it's him. Correct, no one has never been 100%. And it won’t start with Mariano. As Tim Kurkjian said, there’s a select few voters who don’t vote for relievers period, so that’ll pretty much take care of the 100%. The following year is Jeter, who sounds like a great candidate for 100%, but it won’t happen.
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Post by IRS on Jan 26, 2018 13:01:57 GMT -5
If Nolan Ryan couldn't get 100%, I have trouble seeing anyone getting it. Griffey came really close in '16, though.
I think Kershaw would have the best chances of any current player. Especially if he could finally get a ring.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 26, 2018 13:13:10 GMT -5
Anybody who doesn't vote for Mariano Rivera needs to have their credentials revoked. There is no argument against him. He's simply put, the greatest relief pitcher in baseball history. He suffered NO decline in productivity throughout his entire career, and his failures can be counted on 3 fingers.
1997 ALDS Game 5 2001 World Series Game 7 2004 ALCS Game 4
You remove those 3 situations from the equation, and he's perfect in the Postseason, to go along with the 652 regular season saves. 42 more in the Postseason. 5 World Series rings.
Nobody is ever going to break 652 saves. There have been people like Gagne or Valverde who have had better singular years, perfect years, or longer periods of time without blowing a save....but Mariano Rivera was the model of CONSISTENCY. Those guys had shorter careers. Nobody was as good as Mo for as long as him. People performed better in small bursts, but they burned out while he continued. That, to me, is the best thing about him.
18 years, as good at the end as he was at the beginning. Not very many people can say that. Usually MLB players careers end on a sour note, with the loss of talent, not being able to cut it anymore, and finally nobody wants them and they fade away. Mariano Rivera could have kept going, but HE decided he'd had enough.
There will NEVER be another like him.
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Post by King Richius on Jan 26, 2018 14:10:44 GMT -5
Mariano Rivera is definitely a first ballot hall of famer. I hate the Yankees and even I can see that.
I doubt he will be unanimous though because there always seem to be a few voters who have this mindset that they don't need to vote for someone because enough others will to get them in. It doesn't really matter because he will get in and Cooperstown doesn't put the percentage of votes you got on your HoF plaque.
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Post by Chip on Jan 26, 2018 14:45:38 GMT -5
whats funny is they actually have to do a vote thing for a guy like Rivera....like, why even put him on the ballot? there is literally zero reason to him not getting in the hall. zero. there is no argument against it, no valid point anybody could make about anything he ever did in his career that would make him not worth the honor.
he really is already a unanimous choice.
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Post by LK3 on Jan 26, 2018 15:22:14 GMT -5
It’s even crazier to think about the legends who are already in the HOF knowing they weren’t 100%.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 26, 2018 17:17:02 GMT -5
I think his career was too short, he doesn't have the stats, and I think he lost the sympathy votes when it came back that he was drunk and on like 5 different drugs when he died. The guy dominated for a decade, threw a perfect game and a no-hitter in the playoffs.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 28, 2018 13:34:06 GMT -5
I think his career was too short, he doesn't have the stats, and I think he lost the sympathy votes when it came back that he was drunk and on like 5 different drugs when he died. The guy dominated for a decade, threw a perfect game and a no-hitter in the playoffs. If Mussina has taken this long with 270 wins, an ERA of only .30 more than Halladay while having a higher WAR by almost 20 points and only 10 less complete games....then Halladay might get in one day but he's not a first ballot guy. Just my opinion. But they'll probably put him in. Just like they won't put in Clemens or Bonds and probably won't put in A-rod, but they can't wait to put in David Ortiz who failed the SAME TEST as A-rod. But Big Papi is a nice guy and dropped f-bombs and was funny in his interviews, so we can get over the PED stuff. Clemens, Bonds and A-rod didn't kiss the reporters asses and make jokes so no HOF for them! And Pettitte won't get in either but he's got 5 rings and nobody in postseason history has more starts, innings pitched, wins...and only Smoltz has more K's.
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Post by BROKEN on Feb 4, 2018 18:58:07 GMT -5
They can’t put in Ortiz but not A-Rod. The Hall is a joke. It should go by numbers. Not favorites of the writers.
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Post by Chip on Feb 5, 2018 21:11:25 GMT -5
todd frazier to the mets
2 years/17 million
quite frankly im disappointed, the yankees should have/could have matched that offer EASILY and had a solid guy at 3b for the next couple years.
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Post by LA Times on Feb 5, 2018 21:27:09 GMT -5
todd frazier to the mets 2 years/17 million quite frankly im disappointed, the yankees should have/could have matched that offer EASILY and had a solid guy at 3b for the next couple years. One of the Yankees top prospects is a 3B. This is a terrible signing. The guy batted .213 with the Yankees and that would translate to .190 at CitiField.
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