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Post by K5 on Apr 4, 2016 9:11:46 GMT -5
cesaro would kill it in a match against brock or hhh, so i have no clue what you're talking about. as for mic skills...not everyone can be great on the mic. it's not like rey mysterio had a killer promo. Cesaro wouldn't be able to hang with the likes of HHH or Brock for that matter or even Taker because they are on another level while Cesaro is not on their level not even close that's an interesting opinion, but i think you're completely wrong and have no basis. cesaro can go with the best of them in ring. i'd say you're believing wwe's hyperbole. triple he was never on the level of cesaro in ring in terms of ability.
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Post by tg11 on Apr 4, 2016 9:14:50 GMT -5
Cesaro at best is an Internet darling
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Post by K5 on Apr 4, 2016 9:19:02 GMT -5
Cesaro at best is an Internet darling so you know better than stone cold?
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Post by tg11 on Apr 4, 2016 9:21:26 GMT -5
I am not saying that but even you have to admit that he is an Internet darling as how Punk put it when Vince and company thought of him like that because let's face it Punk was and so is Cesaro now
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Post by marino13 on Apr 4, 2016 9:23:58 GMT -5
I like Cesaro. I like the thought of Cesaro getting a push. But I'm not sure about a WWE championship push. Not yet. I'd like to see him get a good healthy US or IC title reign first. Let the mid card titles steal the show like they did when I was a kid. Cesaro is the perfect guy for that IMO.
I would love to see Cesaro take on Dean or Triple H on a Network special. I think both matches would be awesome.
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Post by tg11 on Apr 4, 2016 9:28:40 GMT -5
I like Cesaro. I like the thought of Cesaro getting a push. But I'm not sure about a WWE championship push. Not yet. I'd like to see him get a good healthy US or IC title reign first. Let the mid card titles steal the show like they did when I was a kid. Cesaro is the perfect guy for that IMO. I would love to see Cesaro take on Dean or Triple H on a Network special. I think both matches would be awesome. Cesaro at best he is a midcard guy but to be in main events with stars like Cena, Brock, Reigns, HHH, Orton, Rollins, etc. I don't know if he would be able to step his game up
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Post by Kanenite on Apr 4, 2016 9:33:21 GMT -5
I like Cesaro. I like the thought of Cesaro getting a push. But I'm not sure about a WWE championship push. Not yet. I'd like to see him get a good healthy US or IC title reign first. Let the mid card titles steal the show like they did when I was a kid. Cesaro is the perfect guy for that IMO. I would love to see Cesaro take on Dean or Triple H on a Network special. I think both matches would be awesome. Cesaro at best he is a midcard guy but to be in main events with stars like Cena, Brock, Reigns, HHH, Orton, Rollins, etc. I don't know if he would be able to step his game up He's had great matches with Cena already. MOTY Quality. He sure as hell can step his game up with any of those guys.
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Post by BigT on Apr 4, 2016 9:34:45 GMT -5
I'd take Cesaro over Reigns any day. At least Cesaro can put on amazing matches and has a natural likeable presence. But Cesaro has no mic skills and his wrestling ability only covers up for about some of it while Reigns he actually has the look he can brawl he can fight but his wrestling ability is not great but he's learning I mean his match last year with Lesnar at 31 and his match with HHH at 32 are proof of that Cesaro if he were in that position he would fold like a deck of cards Wait are you saying he's not that good in the ring? Because he's like the exact opposite of that. In ring wise he could put on a fantastic show with the like of HHH or Lesnar, he has great 'highlight moment' moves as well as a good in ring sense. He's a let down on the mic and a bit iffy charisma wise, but Cesaro's got a pretty good look (when he doesn't overload his entrance gear with like 50 items haha) Cesaro's problem is getting to that position you're talking about. Once he's there he'd be fine. But then again if he was pushed there regardless of fan opinion ala Roman then that wouldn't be an issue...
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Post by K5 on Apr 4, 2016 9:54:47 GMT -5
I am not saying that but even you have to admit that he is an Internet darling as how Punk put it when Vince and company thought of him like that because let's face it Punk was and so is Cesaro now people started talking about cm punk on wf around 2002. they were saying he's amazing on the microphone, and that he needs to get scooped up. fast foreward a decade and he's the best talker in the wwe today. cesaro spent time in ring of honor and other indies under a different name. he was recognized for his tremendous wrestling ability. fast forward about a decade and lo and behold, he's one of the best in ring workers in the wwe consistently. also see: daniel bryan stop believing what you're being fed about 'smarks' and 'indy darlings', it's just wrestling fans that know what the is up. check the track record and it'll be easy to see.
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Post by cmiller79 on Apr 4, 2016 10:38:50 GMT -5
Hopefully Cesaro comes out and takes the title off Ryder tonight
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 10:47:11 GMT -5
Would I like to see it? Yes. My ing god, yes. The promo problem could be fixed by a mouthpiece in the form of Paul Heyman or Lana. Outside of that, he is one of the most complete and talented wrestlers I have ever seen. Great striker, awesome technical wrestler, freaky strength, a great look, and a natural charisma. The first time I saw the dude was on YouTube about 5 years ago in a steel cage match when he was known as Claudio Castagnoli from a CHIKARA show against Brodie Lee (now known as Luke Harper), and I was blown away by how good he really was. I truly believe he is among the elite wrestlers today and could be a legitimate main eventer. He could have great matches with Lesnar, Cena, Rollins, Reigns, Trips, Rusev, Barrett, and basically anybody you put him in there with. Now that Kidd is more than likely done, too, it's the perfect time. He isn't getting any younger and needs to be pounced on as soon as possible. Will it happen? Probably not. Vince has stated in the past that he thinks he's too generic and doesn't connect with an audience, which is bullshit, judging by the amount of Cesaro section signs on Raw whenever he comes out and the giant pop he got at Wrestlemania 30.
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Apr 4, 2016 10:48:01 GMT -5
Sometimes, I think Cesaro just needs a legit theme song to get him over the hump.
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Post by punksnotdead on Apr 4, 2016 10:58:26 GMT -5
Next level as in main event? No. He's never shown enough character or charisma in WWE to be at the top. I stand by that, even as a guy who enjoys watching Cesaro wrestle.
I would like to see Cesaro get a push though when he returns. A really nice IC run would do wonders for him. He could easily win the US Title again and be better than Kalisto, just by existing haha. I think Kidd and Cesaro were something really special together, and it's a shame we didn't get more of them.
To be fair, I do think Cesaro could be a good challenger for Reigns on the way to SummerSlam. I just don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell that he's used as anything other than the guy facing the guy in that type of scenario.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Apr 4, 2016 11:07:33 GMT -5
Cesaro isn't a master on the mic, but he is a good face promo. I would love to see him in the main event and win at least one world title.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 11:09:49 GMT -5
Yup, bad mic skills mean you can't be a top guy.
Unless you're Andre, or Yoko, or Brock, or Benoit, or Sid, or early Taker, or early Kane, or Jeff Hardy, or Sheamus, or Reigns, or early Batista, or many others.
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Post by ZDB on Apr 4, 2016 11:38:06 GMT -5
Yup, bad mic skills mean you can't be a top guy. Unless you're Andre, or Yoko, or Brock, or Benoit, or Sid, or early Taker, or early Kane, or Jeff Hardy, or Sheamus, or Reigns, or early Batista, or many others. You named people who were managed by some of the best of all time Cesaro doesn't have a manager What comparison could be made
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 11:45:48 GMT -5
Yup, bad mic skills mean you can't be a top guy. Unless you're Andre, or Yoko, or Brock, or Benoit, or Sid, or early Taker, or early Kane, or Jeff Hardy, or Sheamus, or Reigns, or early Batista, or many others. You named people who were managed by some of the best of all time Cesaro doesn't have a manager What comparison could be made Who was Batista managed by during his early days as a top guy? Brocks face run he surely didn't have a manager. Who said Cesaro couldn't have a manager? Edit: And sh**, the man in your avi could be added to the list. Goldberg couldn't cut a promo to save his life.
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Post by ZDB on Apr 4, 2016 12:48:39 GMT -5
You named people who were managed by some of the best of all time Cesaro doesn't have a manager What comparison could be made Who was Batista managed by during his early days as a top guy? Brocks face run he surely didn't have a manager. Who said Cesaro couldn't have a manager? Edit: And sh**, the man in your avi could be added to the list. Goldberg couldn't cut a promo to save his life. Flair and HHH Edit: Goldberg is the exception to all rules. He was forced down our throats harder than Reigns and was super over
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Post by A-Rob on Apr 4, 2016 13:22:01 GMT -5
Yay, Cesaro is one of the best workers in the company. He is a perfect upper mid carder.
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Post by jcm3344 on Apr 4, 2016 13:30:32 GMT -5
If he comes back with gimmick that works for him, he can be at the level. His in ring ability is great and he puts guys over. He needs someone to help with the talking or make him a silent assassin type guy that just comes in, takes care of business and never says a word. If nothing else, he can make the other guys look better and can help set them up for the spot at top. HE was the only one to make Roman look like a stud in a match.
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