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Post by JCF on Apr 11, 2016 16:17:33 GMT -5
He's a hell of a lot better than Lashley
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 16:20:28 GMT -5
He's a hell of a lot better than Lashley Bobby Lashley got REALLY good in TNA and he had flashes of brilliance in WWE too. He was just pushed too hard, too soon. He is an under appreciated talent, I think.
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Post by YES! YES! YES! on Apr 11, 2016 16:41:51 GMT -5
Needs some sort of character. I love him though
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Apr 11, 2016 16:47:13 GMT -5
He is really great and athletic, but I think he sucks.
I just don't like him. He comes off too happy and has no character behind him.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 11, 2016 16:56:32 GMT -5
He's a hell of a lot better than Lashley Truth.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 17:00:39 GMT -5
It's early. The dude has talent. Let's see where it goes before we dismiss him.
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Post by hbkowns on Apr 11, 2016 17:40:36 GMT -5
So people hate when wrestlers are tagged with gimmicks, then go ahead and cry about him not having a gimmick...
IWC I tell ya..
Just a thought. How about letting the guy be himself and show his true character, not tagging one on him. He's a megastar waiting to happen.
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Post by Sizzle on Apr 11, 2016 17:43:20 GMT -5
Just because someone is big and black doesn't make them Bobby Lashley. To be fair, people say Ryback is Goldberg all the time even though the two are very different. I like Apollo. He's very talented, but he has not connected with the crowd whatsoever. He got one of the weakest pops at NXT Dallas and his in ring stuff is hit or miss. More importantly, he hasn't really found himself on the mic or even a character really. I don't think he was ready to be called up at all. He wasn't ready to be called up. He doesn't need a "gimmick", but he needs a character.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Apr 11, 2016 17:51:52 GMT -5
The ing sky is his ceiling. Seriously I feel like he'll go as far as he possibly can. He has every tool needed to make himself a star.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 17:52:01 GMT -5
So people hate when wrestlers are tagged with gimmicks, then go ahead and cry about him not having a gimmick... IWC I tell ya.. Just a thought. How about letting the guy be himself and show his true character, not tagging one on him. He's a megastar waiting to happen. That's an extremely broad generalization. Care to elaborate? Since when do people complain about gimmicks or even characters? That's one of the problems with the roster these days, or at least it was a few years ago. It's just dudes in their underwear wrestling for no real reason with no real character. All of the biggest names in wrestling have had unique characters or gimmicks and qualities. Hulk Hogan - Purveyor of all that's good, American hero, and fights till the very end. Stone Cold - Beer guzzling redneck who can't be controlled. The Rock - Refers to himself in third person a lot, and can mesmerize the masses. The Undertaker - A dead man among the living. HBK - Dude who was full of himself for years, but could always back it up. The Ultimate Warrior - Basically Hogan on cocaine. Well, more cocaine. Macho Man - Macho Madness had an unbelievable amount of intensity and ferocity on the stick and charisma pooring out of every orifice. John Cena - Vanilla Ice wannabe who would later fight till the very end akin to Hogan, and always overcame the odds. We have way too many guys that are "just happy to be there!" with no real motivation or reasoning behind their actions. That's part of why it seems like no one gets over these days. They're just dudes in trunks with no memorable qualities or looks. Well, Wyatt was there, but eh. I always think of Cody Rhodes when I think of dudes with no characters. The dude is super generic when he isn't playing an off the wall gimmick such as Grotesque Rhodes or Stardizzle.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 18:03:13 GMT -5
Just because someone is big and black doesn't make them Bobby Lashley. To be fair, people say Ryback is Goldberg all the time even though the two are very different. I like Apollo. He's very talented, but he has not connected with the crowd whatsoever. He got one of the weakest pops at NXT Dallas and his in ring stuff is hit or miss. More importantly, he hasn't really found himself on the mic or even a character really. I don't think he was ready to be called up at all. I agree that he wasn't ready. I think he needs to be put with Heyman so he doesn't have to talk.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 11, 2016 18:07:42 GMT -5
To be fair, people say Ryback is Goldberg all the time even though the two are very different. I like Apollo. He's very talented, but he has not connected with the crowd whatsoever. He got one of the weakest pops at NXT Dallas and his in ring stuff is hit or miss. More importantly, he hasn't really found himself on the mic or even a character really. I don't think he was ready to be called up at all. I agree that he wasn't ready. I think he needs to be put with Heyman so he doesn't have to talk. No. Crews as heel just screams no.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Apr 11, 2016 18:58:21 GMT -5
So people hate when wrestlers are tagged with gimmicks, then go ahead and cry about him not having a gimmick... IWC I tell ya.. Just a thought. How about letting the guy be himself and show his true character, not tagging one on him. He's a megastar waiting to happen. No one complains about gimmicks. Gimmicks are a huge part of pro wrestling and every main star has had one.
The greatest wrestler in the world could join the WWE but if he's in trunks and has no character fans will not care. Sheamus and Del Rio are proof of that.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Apr 11, 2016 20:52:02 GMT -5
He's quite the athlete.
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Post by bababooey on Apr 11, 2016 20:54:32 GMT -5
If he's handled right I can see him as champion down the line. He has a great look and a ton of athletic ability. He can get over now with all the flashy moves, then get a little more basic as he moves up the card. Work in some more psychology. I think he can do that. So I just hope he's booked right.
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Post by HHH316 on Apr 11, 2016 22:54:46 GMT -5
His look and skill level are second to none. The problem right now is that there's no reason to connect with him. He has no character or direction. I could definitely see him as an IC champ, but he'll need a LOT more to get above that
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Post by Quazimoto on Apr 11, 2016 23:06:21 GMT -5
I do think he should have stayed in NXT a bit longer and had a nice run with the title there, but once he gets going a bit he'll be golden. Just needs some refinement right now. Frankly, if I were running WWE, Apollo Crews would be on the short list of guys I'd build the future of the company around.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2016 0:09:41 GMT -5
I had high hopes when he signed but those have went down and down ever since. I think his call-up has came far too soon. He has no character and will ultimately flop IMO. Unless he turns heel and becomes a Heyman guy. Then he wouldn't flop. *COUGHS* Curtis Axel
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Post by Cameron Stone on Apr 12, 2016 2:13:51 GMT -5
He has tons of talent, but was called up too soon. Still a bit green and not as refined as he needs to be.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Apr 12, 2016 3:33:17 GMT -5
Let's not forget how young he is as well guys.
Didn't he turn 21 at TakeOver: Brooklyn?
Who were you at 21? I think, were I to look back on a lot of the things I did at that age, I'd ask myself what I was thinking. I'd say he's doing exceptionally well to be this composed in front of crowds that size and to be handling himself with such professionalism at such a young age.
He'll get there. And, as others have said, there really is no ceiling for him, unless Vince decides he's too short.
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