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Post by KPnDC on May 2, 2016 16:22:58 GMT -5
The way some of you all bitch, I truly question why you waste time AND YOUR LIFE watching something you don't enjoy. Just turn it off. It was like a million other things to watch on TV last night. With that said. Wrestling is suppose to be wonky and over the top. Why do so many people take this crapso serious? Last night was a really fun PPV. I hadn't watched wrestling since I was at the RAW after Mania. Maybe you all should take a break from wrestling.
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Post by sharpshooter on May 2, 2016 16:24:05 GMT -5
Why would Vince have a black eye if it was a work? Why would the roster turn their backs on Vince? Why would Bret namedrop WCW on WWF PPV at a time when they were kicking the WWF's ass in terms of ratings? It was 19 years ago, and Bret has publicly made up with Shawn and Vince. At his age, he probably figured it was best to let it go, sign that legend's contract and get a nice paycheck for an appearance every now and then. Kevin Nash makes a lot of good points as to why it could be a work. He said something along the lines of, "Vince doesn't sell 3 years of the federal government, doesn't sell spinal fusion, doesn't sell double quad injury, but sold a punch from one of the boys on film...." Just last night makes the Montreal Screw Job seem really worked. I know Bret forgave WWE, but why go along with that finish?? I do agree with some of that video but Vince didn't know he was being filmed staggering down the hallway did he? I thought it was a undercover camera guy filming for beyond the shadows? Might make a difference if Vince thought nobody would end up seeing him.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 16:28:28 GMT -5
That finish just pissed me off the most about that PPV. As if Nattie obviously not winning the title and getting buried for the last 5 years wasn't pointless and stupid enough. The Screwjob made no sense. It won't have a good/logical pay off if they won't give the belt to Nattie and it doesn't do this revival of the women's title/division any favors. Yeah, it's not doing the division any good. When was the last time a women's title match ended cleanly?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 16:34:40 GMT -5
Yeah it was really weird.. I have no clue why he would go along. Side note, Bret Hart has aged extremely poorly. Vince looks younger than him lol In fairness, the man did have a stroke and several tragedies within a couple of years of each other. To respond to the OP, I agree that it was a bizarre finish given the past. That being said, I still don't think the Montreal Screwjob was a work. No way they could keep something like that under wraps for this long the way they did. If I'm wrong though, whoever was involved should be a federal ing agent at this point.
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Post by TheLastDude on May 2, 2016 16:39:23 GMT -5
Why are they making Charlotte into a cheat anyway? She doesn't need to cheat. She's by far the best female performer they have. Because her gimmick is being Ric Flair's daughter. She's the new dirtiest player in the game.
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Post by LA Times on May 2, 2016 17:15:50 GMT -5
When the legit finish happened at Survivor Series 1997, it was a big deal. When they did it again a year later, it was pretty cool. Every time since then, it has meant less and less to the point where I don't care anymore. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/152456/matches-survivor-series-97-finishI had a thread asking what matches has used that finish since it has been done so many times. You can add last nights match to the list.
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Post by KPnDC on May 2, 2016 17:32:34 GMT -5
Why are they making Charlotte into a cheat anyway? She doesn't need to cheat. She's by far the best female performer they have. Because her gimmick is being Ric Flair's daughter. She's the new dirtiest player in the game. I swear its like wrestling fans don't understand wresting. Everyone can't win every match. And it's her gimmick to cheat.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 18:04:31 GMT -5
That finish pissed me off Who ever in creative suggested a Montreal Screwjob recreation needs to go sit in a corner and never write anything ever again, yet again Natalya gets cheated she got screwed out of becoming women's champion by the referee Charles Robinson she never taped out or said I quit it was a Montreal screwjob all over again, this time a Chicago screwjob it seems to me that Charlotte can't beat Natalya without help this time it was Charles Robinson not Ric Flair who will be next to help Charlotte Triple H or Vince McMahon or Stephanie McMahon the announce team making no effort what so ever to explain about the finish
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Post by theMOESIAH on May 2, 2016 21:15:33 GMT -5
Bret seemed checked out during the match. Having a stroke while riding a motorcycle and then getting ass cancer will do that to the best of us
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Post by | NLS™ | on May 2, 2016 22:15:51 GMT -5
The company is completely obsessed with the Montreal screw job while most fans have basically moved on from it about 10 years ago. All this finish did was expose once again that this company clearly has an issue when it comes to taking their female athletes seriously. They didn't need Dr. Phil. They didn't need a washed up senile Ric Flair, and they didn't need a washed up, whiny, bitchy, miserable Bret Hart. Let the women do what they gotta do and stop throwing all of these men into the mix because you can't let go of your bias. Relax, girlfriend. Bret was the best part of that match lastnight and the only reason I didnt fast forward. lol
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Post by crookedterror on May 2, 2016 23:03:33 GMT -5
The ending came out of nowhere in a bad way. Sure, we can rationalize it, but at the end of the day we have seen too many screwjob recreations. But on another note, I really liked Bret's pink shirt.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on May 2, 2016 23:06:36 GMT -5
It was totally stupid. I get how it can be entertaining but it served no purpose in that situation and we haven't been told why Robinson did it. It's just so...absurd.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 2:20:44 GMT -5
the WWE does treat Natalya like crap she is probably coming to the end of her career in the next couple of years at least the WWE could do give her one last title run instead they give her a taste of the Montreal Screwjob the WWE do treat Charlotte like royalty I can't see why it's probably because she is Ric Flair's daughter
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 2:39:21 GMT -5
The company is completely obsessed with the Montreal screw job while most fans have basically moved on from it about 10 years ago. All this finish did was expose once again that this company clearly has an issue when it comes to taking their female athletes seriously. They didn't need Dr. Phil. They didn't need a washed up senile Ric Flair, and they didn't need a washed up, whiny, bitchy, miserable Bret Hart. Let the women do what they gotta do and stop throwing all of these men into the mix because you can't let go of your bias. If you want to know where you left that stick, I think you need to look in your ass.
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Post by BOOKER_T on May 3, 2016 2:41:57 GMT -5
I love pretty much anything Charles Robinson does. He's the GOAT ref. Lmao Lil natch is awesome
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on May 3, 2016 4:35:53 GMT -5
The way Bret bitches about the company never doing anything original or new, and then allows himself to be a part of this angle is laughable. Bret and this angle.
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Post by jcjdotcom on May 3, 2016 9:57:14 GMT -5
I thought the screwjob redux angle was great. I think Charlotte is significantly better as a heel, and heels cheat, even if they could win cleanly.
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Post by bababooey on May 3, 2016 11:09:37 GMT -5
I thought the screwjob redux angle was great. I think Charlotte is significantly better as a heel, and heels cheat, even if they could win cleanly. I don't think anyone has a problem with the fact that Charlotte cheated. For me at least, the problem is in the execution. It was unoriginal and did nothing for anyone in my opinion. They could have come up with more creative ways for her to cheat.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on May 3, 2016 12:08:40 GMT -5
No matter what they did I'm sure Bret would've hated it and complained. He was whining about even doing the show less than a week ago, and pretty much knocks the company incessantly. He's often justified, but if you're on the company's payroll it sort of makes him look like a hypocrite, and was kind of disrespectful to Natalya. I do think it was a minor shot at him, but more than anything it made me roll my eyes. If I never see another screwjob it will be too soon.
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Post by Darkhawk on May 3, 2016 12:16:31 GMT -5
If I recall Bret Hart didn't want to be at Payback.
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