TheBadGuyChico
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on May 9, 2016 22:38:32 GMT -5
As someone who wasn't watching WWE much over the last few years I was incredibly intrigued by the signings of Styles, Anderson, and Gallows.
I watched them in NJPW and their sporadic US appearances, loved the Bullet Club run. I've been a Styles can since 2002, he's my favorite wrestler of the century this far.So to say I'm invested in these guys is an understatement
I was intrigued by the idea of the Bullet Club reigniting the WWE creatively similar to Punk's 2011 pipebomb promo. That just has not been the case this far.
Styles showed up earlier and traded wins, including a wrestlemania loss to Chris Jericho who has lost plenty of matches over the last few years. Should one of the best wrestlers on the planet be losing to a guy who is just still really good albeit not great anymore?
The Good Brothers showed up on a random episode of Raw in street clothes and did a decent little attack on the Uso's. Nothing awe inspiring or that has made for great television imo. Just really basic stuff. Nothing NWO esque which while cliche, is the standard for a group like this. Not even anything as potent or cool as what the Nexus were doing.
Is this treading towards being yet another case of WWE dropping the ball? The good brothers have already been pinned on television and fought off on ppv without that much of can effort. These guys were a force in NJPW and once again it sucks to see WWE do another watered down version of something that was awesome elsewhere. Kiddie table version imo.
I remember a time when WWE protected their new acts for quite awhile before they ever took a pinfall or submission loss. Am I overreacting or is the execution and booking of these guys sub par headed towards bad?
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Post by Cassa Nova Kid on May 9, 2016 22:45:01 GMT -5
As someone who wasn't watching WWE much over the last few years I was incredibly intrigued by the signings of Styles, Anderson, and Gallows. I watched them in NJPW and their sporadic US appearances, loved the Bullet Club run. I've been a Styles can since 2002, he's my favorite wrestler of the century this far.So to say I'm invested in these guys is an understatement I was intrigued by the idea of the Bullet Club reigniting the WWE creatively similar to Punk's 2011 pipebomb promo. That just has not been the case this far. Styles showed up earlier and traded wins, including a wrestlemania loss to Chris Jericho who has lost plenty of matches over the last few years. Should one of the best wrestlers on the planet be losing to a guy who is just still really good albeit not great anymore? The Good Brothers showed up on a random episode of Raw in street clothes and did a decent little attack on the Uso's. Nothing awe inspiring or that has made for great television imo. Just really basic stuff. Nothing NWO esque which while cliche, is the standard for a group like this. Not even anything as potent or cool as what the Nexus were doing. Is this treading towards being yet another case of WWE dropping the ball? The good brothers have already been pinned on television and fought off on ppv without that much of can effort. These guys were a force in NJPW and once again it sucks to see WWE do another watered down version of something that was awesome elsewhere. Kiddie table version imo. I remember a time when WWE protected their new acts for quite awhile before they ever took a pinfall or submission loss. Am I overreacting or is the execution and booking of these guys sub par headed towards bad? Give it time, I think there is still something big planned For them.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on May 9, 2016 23:09:25 GMT -5
I haven't been this interested in a WWE storyline in a long time. So no I would say right now it's not trending towards them dropping the ball.
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Post by BCizzle on May 9, 2016 23:24:52 GMT -5
I agree. They already feel like nothing special, even with their sweet ass white coats.
I miss jobbers. They use them in NXT, and it works!
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Post by IRS on May 10, 2016 1:23:12 GMT -5
We'll see. I honestly haven't been able to let myself get fully invested in it yet, due to WWE's track record for... shall we say... crapping the bed. Frequently. Horrifically.
Maybe, just maybe, it actually is a 'new era'. Or, maybe they'll feed them all to Reigns clean in a couple months. It's all a waiting game.
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Post by SodaGuy on May 10, 2016 1:34:48 GMT -5
It's hard to get invested in "The Club" (stupid ing name btw) when it's a rip-off of a rip-off. You mix that with the WWE being known for bulls*** booking and you've got a recipe for zero s given.
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Post by China Claus on May 10, 2016 3:20:55 GMT -5
While I'm intrigued by Styles, Gallows, and Anderson, I have the feeling they're being fed to Reigns to make him look stronger. And once Reigns is done with them, they're going to fade into the midcard oblivion.
However, I certainly hope that isn't the case.
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Post by IRS on May 10, 2016 3:31:17 GMT -5
It's hard to get invested in "The Club" (stupid ing name btw) when it's a rip-off of a rip-off. You mix that with the WWE being known for bulls*** booking and you've got a recipe for zero s given. I mean, it is a stupid name, but it could be worse... It could be something moronic like 'The Bunny Club'.
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Post by honeybear 619 on May 10, 2016 5:56:37 GMT -5
I love AJ Styles, but I don't get the hype for Gallows, he never done anything impressive the last time he was in WWE.Just cause his big doesn't mean his great.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on May 10, 2016 6:46:15 GMT -5
The problem with this angle is the matches are already getting repetitive. These guys are wrestling each other pretty much 3 times a week on TV already. You can have a feud and not wrestle each other on every TV episode. Something this fresh is almost already stale...
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Post by tylerbreezee on May 10, 2016 6:48:29 GMT -5
This is absolutely disgusting. This isn't 50/50 booking. Don't look at it as "But AJ won the 6 man tag!" He was still slaughtered after the match and it's been happening on both Raw and Smackdown to Gallows and Anderson every week.
Raw 5/9/16 - Reigns beats and takes out Gallows and Anderson
Smackdown 5/5/16 - Reigns beats and takes out Gallows and Anderson
Raw 5/2/16 - Reigns takes out Styles/Gallows/Anderson in a brutal fashion
Smackdown 4/28/16 - Reigns takes out Styles/Gallows/Anderson
Raw 4/25/26 - AJ stands tall BUT Reigns takes out Gallows and Anderson (TWICE)
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Post by bigshab421 on May 10, 2016 7:11:52 GMT -5
50/50 booking is not what's hurting them.....it's their dumbass name "The Club."
Come on, that is all they could come up with? GTFO
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Post by bababooey on May 10, 2016 7:23:48 GMT -5
I'm so sick of people saying "50/50 booking." It's like that's the newest "insider term" people have learned and now constantly have to use it. And I don't mean to target anyone in particular, I'm just saying this in general.
Gallows and Anderson have been made to look less than impressive though. I hate how the Club keeps losing to Reigns and the Usos (in my opinion the most complacent and uninteresting tag team in WWE right now).
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on May 10, 2016 7:33:52 GMT -5
Gallows and Anderson keep getting fed to Reigns. It's ridiculous. How are we supposed to take them seriously when they constantly get dispatched with NO EFFORT.
I don't think Cena had gotten the upperhand on anyone from Nexus this early.
Oh well, it doesn't even matter. We all know AJ Styles has no chance in hell of ever becoming WWE Champion, and Vince McMahon is only using him as the number one contender so that he can take a guy the fans love and have that guy get fed to Roman Reigns. Vince McMahon is probably sitting there going "these indie guys are lucky to even have jobs here!"....and I'm sure Vince McMahon has NO IDEA he used to employ Luke Gallows.
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Post by punksnotdead on May 10, 2016 8:17:50 GMT -5
WWE was totally incapable of booking the NWO in 2002. Why, now that Vince is even more disconnected from his audience, would anyone think he knows how to book the 2016 version?
You can't form a dominate (heel) faction and not make them look dominant. End of story. WWE has already failed this city. But look on the bright side, Roman Winz LOLZ!
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Post by xtremebadass on May 10, 2016 8:19:21 GMT -5
I'm so sick of people saying "50/50 booking." It's like that's the newest "insider term" people have learned and now constantly have to use it. And I don't mean to target anyone in particular, I'm just saying this in general. I was about to say the same thing. Must be the trendy thing to say in 2016. I hate when fans try to come off as insiders knowing the terminology. You're a fan. I'm a fan. Don't try to be anything more than that unless you have a legitimate role in the wrestling industry outside of discussing it online.
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Post by havoc7179 on May 10, 2016 9:25:19 GMT -5
Maybe I'm looking too into this,and giving Creative too much credit, but I'm seeing something drastically different from most of you.
I see a team that has not yet gelled because they're following two different missions. AJ wants to be respected and cheered (He said so prior to Payback).Gallows and Anderson want to win at any cost, and want OLD NJPW AJ Back.
This is like when Sting teamed with heel Luger pre-NWO days. They were tag champs, but they came close to losing many many many times because Sting would admonish Luger, get distracted, and almost succumb to a pin. They were established main event players at the time so that accounts for their wins. Point is, their constant admonishing of each other led to them not being a dominant team.
So, until AJ decides to embrace the Club or untilt he Club adopts the AJ mentality, the so called domination won't happen until then. Maybe that's not the story WWE Creative is coming up with, but it's what I've been picking up on. Until they are aligned mentally, they aren't going to dominate.
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Post by marino13 on May 10, 2016 9:28:19 GMT -5
As far as I can recall, Anderson & Gallows have only lost to the WWE champion. That's not really a bad thing considering they are already involved in the top story-line in WWE. So I'll hold off my judgement till we see where all this is headed. If in 3 weeks they are losing to Golden-Truth, then I'll declare it a failure.
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Post by havoc7179 on May 10, 2016 9:53:03 GMT -5
As far as I can recall, Anderson & Gallows have only lost to the WWE champion. That's not really a bad thing considering they are already involved in the top story-line in WWE. So I'll hold off my judgement till we see where all this is headed. If in 3 weeks they are losing to Golden-Truth, then I'll declare it a failure. Ditto. I honestly compare them to Doug Furnas and Phil LaFon. I literally know nothing about them, but understood the two to be an awesome tag team that randomly showed up to help the Hart Foundation. I was young at the time, so I didn't know my history, and, frankly, didn't put much stock in wins and losses since I saw them on TV a lot. Thye lost and won, but they weren't as dominant as they were hyped up to be I guess despite getting major air time. Same thing applies here for me. Never saw Anderson and Gallows really go at it, but always understood MG Anderson to be the better of the two, and the two in general to be a dominant force. They're thrown in a main event angle, and are fulfilling their role by making the best of what they have. I stand by initial feeling about AJ, Nakamura, and Anderson and Gallows. They're talented individuals. If they're given stupid gimmicks, they'll make it work. Cream always rises. Look at Daniel Bryan. Look at DDP. Look at Steve Austin. Look at the Rock. These guys suffered ridiculous gimmicks, and made a career out of it. No one remembers DDP for his stalker days. They may make fun of him for it, and make fun of the booking, but no one is saying DDP wasn't a legend. They may make fun of Sting's WWE booking, but no one is taking anything away from his wrestling career. Daniel Wyatt. Rocky Blue Chipper Maivia. Stunning Steve Austin. bad gimmicks given to good/great wrestlers, whose full careers overshadow that time period. Another example: Jericho's first reign as the Undisputed Champion. Shoddy booking did nothing to take away from his legacy. Same goes for AJ. We make fun of him for the Claire Lynch storyline, and the Lil Naitch storyline, but he's one of the best wrestlers period. The only ones that can really dump on their own legacy are guys who ruin their personal lives (Benoit Murder/Suicide). But even then, we might ignore it (Stone Cold vs. Debra; Eddie Guerrero's demons). So, in short, AJ will be fine. BC will be fine. It's already miles ahead of the inVasion, and better handled than the "We may be the nWo, but we're really just marks like you guys. Hey Rocky, lets get a picture" angle.
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Post by K5 on May 10, 2016 9:54:55 GMT -5
You can't form a dominate (heel) faction and not make them look dominant. End of story. WWE has already failed this city. But look on the bright side, Roman Winz LOLZ! second time today quoted for truth. you're on a role! i was intrigued initially with their victory over the uso's, but things have dwindled and they have not been properly built in the process. reigns' decimating them with ease is an issue too. they had my interest for april/payback, i'll give them that. but things have already started going in the wrong direction again.
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