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Post by #DI-WHY? on May 12, 2016 13:59:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 14:05:22 GMT -5
I'm just gonna throw in my 2 cents. Working RAW, Smackdown and PPVs is enough in my opinion. There's really no need for house shows. They don't accomplish anything besides more money and injuries.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 14:06:39 GMT -5
I'd imagine it's still his back bothering him.
All that independent and njpw wrestling from the time tna fired him up until now really took a toll on him.
He almost had to back out of the match at final battle with lethal.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on May 12, 2016 14:40:16 GMT -5
One too many superman punches, clearly!!
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 14:42:15 GMT -5
He's been complaining with back pain since December, but New Japan's doctor cleared him and said he didn't find anything wrong..
It's understandable, though. The dude is 38 and has been wrestling for 18 years.
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Post by davie™ on May 12, 2016 14:42:16 GMT -5
Could be the beginning of the end for Styles eventually. He better hold the title at least once before he retires in less then I say 3 years.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on May 12, 2016 14:42:51 GMT -5
I'm just gonna throw in my 2 cents. Working RAW, Smackdown and PPVs is enough in my opinion. There's really no need for house shows. They don't accomplish anything besides more money and injuries. For Vince McMahon, key words are more money. The house shows are not gonna stop and if they stop doing house shows, or the amount they do, they lose money. I do agree that it's unnecessary for AJ to work house shows with his nagging injuries. Id say he should just make an appearance at a house show without wrestling or take it easy on the in ring style, which a lot of wrestlers should be doing instead of working a high pace style when its not needed. Personally the sorta solution to the injuries is for wrestlers to work a little slower, step it up for PPVs and important matches, and it would also help for Vince to start rotating wrestlers tv schedules around so they dont wrestle both shows
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Post by J12 on May 12, 2016 14:51:00 GMT -5
I'm just gonna throw in my 2 cents. Working RAW, Smackdown and PPVs is enough in my opinion. There's really no need for house shows. They don't accomplish anything besides more money and injuries. For Vince McMahon, key words are more money. The house shows are not gonna stop and if they stop doing house shows, or the amount they do, they lose money. I do agree that it's unnecessary for AJ to work house shows with his nagging injuries. Id say he should just make an appearance at a house show without wrestling or take it easy on the in ring style, which a lot of wrestlers should be doing instead of working a high pace style when its not needed. Personally the sorta solution to the injuries is for wrestlers to work a little slower, step it up for PPVs and important matches, and it would also help for Vince to start rotating wrestlers tv schedules around so they dont wrestle both shows Strangely enough, according to the new quarterly finanical report, they could pretty easily stop doing house shows, or cut back on the number significantly. Live event revenue is third on the list, behind both TV Rights and the Network. If you're strictly talking profit, it drops to number four. WWE doesn't break down televised vs. house show numbers, but more than a few analysts were willing to bet that at least half is coming from TV. With a profit of 8 million dollars, lets say the 50% estimate is correct, you could, theoretically, cut house shows out entirely, and only lose about $4 million - merely a blip on the radar in the grand scheme of things, and probably an amount that could be made up elsewhere. Small price to pay for the health and well being of your talent in the long run. I'm not necessarily advocating for it, or even saying WWE would ever consider it, but house shows are far less important than they once were.
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Post by jakksking1 on May 12, 2016 15:07:44 GMT -5
That monster spear destroyed his back
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Post by Prophet of Ash on May 12, 2016 15:21:00 GMT -5
For Vince McMahon, key words are more money. The house shows are not gonna stop and if they stop doing house shows, or the amount they do, they lose money. I do agree that it's unnecessary for AJ to work house shows with his nagging injuries. Id say he should just make an appearance at a house show without wrestling or take it easy on the in ring style, which a lot of wrestlers should be doing instead of working a high pace style when its not needed. Personally the sorta solution to the injuries is for wrestlers to work a little slower, step it up for PPVs and important matches, and it would also help for Vince to start rotating wrestlers tv schedules around so they dont wrestle both shows Strangely enough, according to the new quarterly finanical report, they could pretty easily stop doing house shows, or cut back on the number significantly. Live event revenue is third on the list, behind both TV Rights and the Network. If you're strictly talking profit, it drops to number four. WWE doesn't break down televised vs. house show numbers, but more than a few analysts were willing to bet that at least half is coming from TV. With a profit of 8 million dollars, lets say the 50% estimate is correct, you could, theoretically, cut house shows out entirely, and only lose about $4 million - merely a blip on the radar in the grand scheme of things, and probably an amount that could be made up elsewhere. Small price to pay for the health and well being of your talent in the long run. I'm not necessarily advocating for it, or even saying WWE would ever consider it, but house shows are far less important than they once were. Having anything untelevised these days is a little silly. Do a house show loop and have one show from each loop broadcast either live or tape delayed on The Network. And cut the number of house shows in half. There's no reason to be running 6-10 house shows a week, in addition to a 3+ hour Raw, 3+ Smackdown taping, and NXT tapings. Start taping Smackdown matches at house shows, like how Primetime Wrestling used to be put together. It'll cut an entire taping a week of needed sets and injuries out, and it'll give Smackdown a WIDELY different feel from Raw, since matches will be held across the country and at different times, versus all in one night. Wanna get someone like, say, Samoa Joe, over super quick? Show 3 squashes from a week's tour on one episode. Show him smashing each of Los Matadors and Adam Rose in short order, building up to a Raw or supershow match with a champion.
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Post by sitruC on May 12, 2016 15:57:10 GMT -5
Seth is nearly back so I am ok for now.
Hope AJ is ok though.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on May 12, 2016 16:02:34 GMT -5
WWE really needs to cut down the number of house shows. Yeah, it makes them some more money, but they are drawing lower and lower numbers, most of the injuries in the past year have occurred on them, and the talent don't like doing them (for the most part).
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on May 12, 2016 16:12:43 GMT -5
WWE really needs to cut down the number of house shows. Yeah, it makes them some more money, but they are drawing lower and lower numbers, most of the injuries in the past year have occurred on them, and the talent don't like doing them (for the most part). floor seats here were 120$.......less than 10 years ago they cost 60$. sorry but im not spending 120 to see matches that i already now who is going to win/ and or have no chance of title changes..
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Post by Joe/Smurf on May 12, 2016 16:44:10 GMT -5
I'm just gonna throw in my 2 cents. Working RAW, Smackdown and PPVs is enough in my opinion. There's really no need for house shows. They don't accomplish anything besides more money and injuries. The wrestlers also make more money for working house shows...
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Post by wwewwfecwcw75 on May 12, 2016 17:00:42 GMT -5
WWE really needs to cut down the number of house shows. Yeah, it makes them some more money, but they are drawing lower and lower numbers, most of the injuries in the past year have occurred on them, and the talent don't like doing them (for the most part). floor seats here were 120$.......less than 10 years ago they cost 60$. sorry but im not spending 120 to see matches that i already now who is going to win/ and or have no chance of title changes.. Samoa Joe says hi.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on May 12, 2016 17:13:21 GMT -5
Strangely enough, according to the new quarterly finanical report, they could pretty easily stop doing house shows, or cut back on the number significantly. Live event revenue is third on the list, behind both TV Rights and the Network. If you're strictly talking profit, it drops to number four. WWE doesn't break down televised vs. house show numbers, but more than a few analysts were willing to bet that at least half is coming from TV. With a profit of 8 million dollars, lets say the 50% estimate is correct, you could, theoretically, cut house shows out entirely, and only lose about $4 million - merely a blip on the radar in the grand scheme of things, and probably an amount that could be made up elsewhere. Small price to pay for the health and well being of your talent in the long run. I'm not necessarily advocating for it, or even saying WWE would ever consider it, but house shows are far less important than they once were. Having anything untelevised these days is a little silly. Do a house show loop and have one show from each loop broadcast either live or tape delayed on The Network. And cut the number of house shows in half. There's no reason to be running 6-10 house shows a week, in addition to a 3+ hour Raw, 3+ Smackdown taping, and NXT tapings. Start taping Smackdown matches at house shows, like how Primetime Wrestling used to be put together. It'll cut an entire taping a week of needed sets and injuries out, and it'll give Smackdown a WIDELY different feel from Raw, since matches will be held across the country and at different times, versus all in one night. Wanna get someone like, say, Samoa Joe, over super quick? Show 3 squashes from a week's tour on one episode. Show him smashing each of Los Matadors and Adam Rose in short order, building up to a Raw or supershow match with a champion. See this idea, I love this idea! They could always have Mauro, Byron, Lawler broadcast from the studios in Connecticut, and based on scheduling, they do only cut one taping per week. Sure there's no reason to cut house shows, but unfortunately as long as Vince makes money, he's not gonna cut house shows. If anything would have made him cut house shows, it would have been the losses of Cena, Rollins, Orton all before Mania. Fans gotta remember that Vince is running a business, unfortunately a lot of businesses run the same way, they're use up their employees until they have no use for them. The massive injuries, fans wanting house shows cut, wrestlers wanting house shows cut a bit is not gonna stop that. I doubt anything scheduling wise is going to change after Vince is gone. BTW, just ask any old school wrestler that wrestled in the '80s. I think I heard Arn Anderson say on the Table for 3 that wrestlers aren't wrestling enough and that's why a lot of these injuries has happen (a statement I disagree BTW). I think Solomonster even disagreed with him, saying that with the wrestling style these guys/girls are wrestling now a days, wrestling more with cause even more injuries. Personally I believe wrestlers don't need to go all out at house shows. I doubt they'll sell less tickets if the wrestlers go slower on house shows.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on May 12, 2016 17:20:28 GMT -5
WWE really needs to cut down the number of house shows. Yeah, it makes them some more money, but they are drawing lower and lower numbers, most of the injuries in the past year have occurred on them, and the talent don't like doing them (for the most part). Did anyone see the table for 3 horsemen edition from a few weeks ago? Arn Anderson talks about how today's wrestlers have too much off time and that their bodies never really get in "ring shape" and that's where he thinks the injuries are coming from. I'd like to hear from some other older wrestlers about this thought process, but the theory sounds plausible.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on May 12, 2016 17:29:47 GMT -5
WWE really needs to cut down the number of house shows. Yeah, it makes them some more money, but they are drawing lower and lower numbers, most of the injuries in the past year have occurred on them, and the talent don't like doing them (for the most part). Did anyone see the table for 3 horsemen edition from a few weeks ago? Arn Anderson talks about how today's wrestlers have too much off time and that their bodies never really get in "ring shape" and that's where he thinks the injuries are coming from. I'd like to hear from some other older wrestlers about this thought process, but the theory sounds plausible. I heard Solomonster talk about it. I think it's more the wrestling style wrestlers are wrestling now a days. If wrestlers wrestled more with their current style, more injuries are bound to happen.
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Post by cmiller79 on May 12, 2016 18:12:39 GMT -5
He better go ahead and get his back taken care of now cause Vince is gonna have him laying on it a lot
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Post by Cassa Nova Kid on May 12, 2016 18:20:52 GMT -5
Won't any one think of the children
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