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Post by James St. James on May 13, 2016 4:38:01 GMT -5
So with Stephanie saying Chyna was a lock for the HOF I am going to assume that means a figure would also become a possibility somewhere down the line, but would WWE have to find a living relative of hers? She was estranged from her family so it seems all kinds of wrong for people to be profiting off of her death that probably had a hand in contributing to her mental health issues, but is that the only way?
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on May 13, 2016 5:04:57 GMT -5
Doubt it. Mattel's standards would be different to WWE's.
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Post by PJ on May 13, 2016 5:53:40 GMT -5
First Mattel would have to change their stance and be willing to make her. And I honestly don't see that happening.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 6:02:15 GMT -5
Bill said in an interview that there isn't one due to her "extra curricular activities," you know... making pornography.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on May 13, 2016 10:12:53 GMT -5
Whoever gets control of her estate will be the person who would have to sign off any legends deal with WWE. I am not sure if it was Mattel's stance of not making a figure because of her "films". I took it as they couldn't make a figure because WWE will not sign her because of her "movies". Mattel made a figure of a wrestling pimp. If they can make a pimp then I think they can make a figure of a character who was portrayed by someone who later worked in the adult film industry.
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Post by PJ on May 13, 2016 12:37:42 GMT -5
Whoever gets control of her estate will be the person who would have to sign off any legends deal with WWE. I am not sure if it was Mattel's stance of not making a figure because of her "films". I took it as they couldn't make a figure because WWE will not sign her because of her "movies". Mattel made a figure of a wrestling pimp. If they can make a pimp then I think they can make a figure of a character who was portrayed by someone who later worked in the adult film industry. Bill said Mattel will never make a hardcore Porn star. That to me says it had nothing to do with the WWE's stance, but rather with Mattel's views. Chyna is now a hard core pron star NO WAY will we ever make her figure
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Post by Mox on May 13, 2016 12:43:29 GMT -5
2012 was a long time ago. Times have changed. Things are different now. I put no stock into a four year old, poorly worded statement from Bill.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on May 13, 2016 12:43:52 GMT -5
Whoever gets control of her estate will be the person who would have to sign off any legends deal with WWE. I am not sure if it was Mattel's stance of not making a figure because of her "films". I took it as they couldn't make a figure because WWE will not sign her because of her "movies". Mattel made a figure of a wrestling pimp. If they can make a pimp then I think they can make a figure of a character who was portrayed by someone who later worked in the adult film industry. Bill said Mattel will never make a hardcore Porn star. That to me says it had nothing to do with the WWE's stance, but rather with Mattel's views. Chyna is now a hard core pron star NO WAY will we ever make her figure Technically she is no longer a porn star so maybe there's the possibility. And making the Godfather is very hypocritical towards that stance. The character was a pimp, glorifying prostitution and degrading women by referring to them as "Hos". How is that at all family friendly?
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Post by James St. James on May 13, 2016 13:03:41 GMT -5
X Pac is also a hardcore porn star. Gangrel directs them. I think it had less to do with that and more to do with her issues with HHH and Steph. It was just an excuse. Didnt Kim Kardashian appear at Wrestlemania?
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Post by Mongo Bears on May 13, 2016 13:05:45 GMT -5
I am surprised that godfather was made. But that was a fictitious character. I could see Mattel making Val venis, But not Chyna. Maybe eventually someday.
I hope they make them all.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 13:06:39 GMT -5
Bill said Mattel will never make a hardcore Porn star. That to me says it had nothing to do with the WWE's stance, but rather with Mattel's views. Technically she is no longer a porn star so maybe there's the possibility. And making the Godfather is very hypocritical towards that stance. The character was a pimp, glorifying prostitution and degrading women by referring to them as "Hos". How is that at all family friendly? Vivid founder Steve Hirsch told The New York Daily News that Chyna reached out to him just last week to discuss the possibility of her doing another adult film for the company. Hirsch said he was supposed to meet with Chyna this week. He commented: "She called last week, and she didn't sound 100% great like she usually did, but she didn't sound bad. She wanted to talk about potentially making more movies for us. We were excited about that. Her movies were some of our best sellers. I told her, 'Let me know what day and we'll send a car for you.' She never called." Read more at www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Vivid_Founder_Says_Chyna_Called_About_New_Movie_Last_Week.html#d3TylzbKYeGwbs13.99
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on May 13, 2016 13:09:27 GMT -5
Technically she is no longer a porn star so maybe there's the possibility. And making the Godfather is very hypocritical towards that stance. The character was a pimp, glorifying prostitution and degrading women by referring to them as "Hos". How is that at all family friendly? Vivid founder Steve Hirsch told The New York Daily News that Chyna reached out to him just last week to discuss the possibility of her doing another adult film for the company. Hirsch said he was supposed to meet with Chyna this week. He commented: "She called last week, and she didn't sound 100% great like she usually did, but she didn't sound bad. She wanted to talk about potentially making more movies for us. We were excited about that. Her movies were some of our best sellers. I told her, 'Let me know what day and we'll send a car for you.' She never called." Read more at www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Vivid_Founder_Says_Chyna_Called_About_New_Movie_Last_Week.html#d3TylzbKYeGwbs13.99Something tells me she will not be contacting Steve Hirsch about sending out that car.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 13:15:38 GMT -5
Vivid founder Steve Hirsch told The New York Daily News that Chyna reached out to him just last week to discuss the possibility of her doing another adult film for the company. Hirsch said he was supposed to meet with Chyna this week. He commented: "She called last week, and she didn't sound 100% great like she usually did, but she didn't sound bad. She wanted to talk about potentially making more movies for us. We were excited about that. Her movies were some of our best sellers. I told her, 'Let me know what day and we'll send a car for you.' She never called." Read more at www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Vivid_Founder_Says_Chyna_Called_About_New_Movie_Last_Week.html#d3TylzbKYeGwbs13.99Something tells me she will not be contacting Steve Hirsch about sending out that car.
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Post by Tomorrow Brings Danger on May 13, 2016 14:03:34 GMT -5
Mattel makes toys for children. Their number one sellers are Hot Wheels and Barbies. If someone like Chyna is on a peg in a store, a kid could ask who it is and their mom might have to explain it to them. Also, you have the internet so, you know, even as an online exclusive, kids could do Google searches and results could pop up that their parents won't want them to see and that Mattel doesn't want to be associated with.
Look, we all know that Barney went to strip clubs in the late 1990's and that's why his show got canceled and he was replaced by a new Barney. You just can't do that kind of stuff and have a career with children, man.
AND- the most important point- Stephanie mentioned Chyna going into the Hall of Fame. This doesn't mean Chyna will get a figure because.... say it with me people... Not all Hall of Famers have action figures by Mattel.
Thank you and goodnight.
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Post by James St. James on May 13, 2016 15:02:08 GMT -5
Mattel makes toys for children. Their number one sellers are Hot Wheels and Barbies. If someone like Chyna is on a peg in a store, a kid could ask who it is and their mom might have to explain it to them. Also, you have the internet so, you know, even as an online exclusive, kids could do Google searches and results could pop up that their parents won't want them to see and that Mattel doesn't want to be associated with. Look, we all know that Barney went to strip clubs in the late 1990's and that's why his show got canceled and he was replaced by a new Barney. You just can't do that kind of stuff and have a career with children, man. AND- the most important point- Stephanie mentioned Chyna going into the Hall of Fame. This doesn't mean Chyna will get a figure because.... say it with me people... Not all Hall of Famers have action figures by Mattel. Thank you and goodnight. You think any Mom has ever been able to explain who Tito Santana was? In what world are Moms explaining the post WWE lives of anyone? Here is how I see this imaginary conversation going: "Mommy, who is [insert Elite FB here]?" "Twenty two dollars? Put it back." Funny how adult collecters are not a thing and suddenly these are all for kids whenever this is brought up.
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Post by PJ on May 13, 2016 15:10:48 GMT -5
Mattel is not going to open themselves up to moral groups who are just waiting for a reason to open their mouths and boycott something. Just give up already as long as Mattel has the license there's not going to be a Chyna figure. Mattel is not going to change their stance on that.
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Post by Tomorrow Brings Danger on May 13, 2016 15:15:04 GMT -5
Mattel makes toys for children. Their number one sellers are Hot Wheels and Barbies. If someone like Chyna is on a peg in a store, a kid could ask who it is and their mom might have to explain it to them. Also, you have the internet so, you know, even as an online exclusive, kids could do Google searches and results could pop up that their parents won't want them to see and that Mattel doesn't want to be associated with. Look, we all know that Barney went to strip clubs in the late 1990's and that's why his show got canceled and he was replaced by a new Barney. You just can't do that kind of stuff and have a career with children, man. AND- the most important point- Stephanie mentioned Chyna going into the Hall of Fame. This doesn't mean Chyna will get a figure because.... say it with me people... Not all Hall of Famers have action figures by Mattel. Thank you and goodnight. You think any Mom has ever been able to explain who Tito Santana was? In what world are Moms explaining the post WWE lives of anyone? My wife, son, mother, sister and I were discussing the other day watching Chyna on "The Surreal Life" and having X-Pac crash an episode, so... a wrestling family I guess?
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on May 13, 2016 15:40:54 GMT -5
Wrestlers are traditionally flawed human beings. Most have skeletons in their closet. If Mattel refuses to make a figure based on the character and actions the individual who portrayed them they wouldn't be able to make hardly anyone. They made a figure of a convicted wife beater (Austin). They made figures of habitual drug abusers (Roberts, Hall). They made a figure of an accused murderer (Snuka). They made a figure of someone who has made numerous homophobic slurs (Warrior). They were able to look past those issues but can't forgive someone who made some adult films?
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Post by KPnDC on May 14, 2016 0:10:27 GMT -5
2012 was a long time ago. Times have changed. Things are different now. I put no stock into a four year old, poorly worded statement from Bill. I agree. If and this is a huge if, WWE puts their huge marketing machine into the Chyna brand again, I'm certain we'll get a figure of her in the next year.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 0:14:26 GMT -5
Whoever gets control of her estate will be the person who would have to sign off any legends deal with WWE. I am not sure if it was Mattel's stance of not making a figure because of her "films". I took it as they couldn't make a figure because WWE will not sign her because of her "movies". Mattel made a figure of a wrestling pimp. If they can make a pimp then I think they can make a figure of a character who was portrayed by someone who later worked in the adult film industry. Bill said Mattel will never make a hardcore Porn star. That to me says it had nothing to do with the WWE's stance, but rather with Mattel's views. Chyna is now a hard core pron star NO WAY will we ever make her figure Well, they had the same certainty about a Razor Ramon figure, and we got that sooner than anyone could have imagined. 4 years is a long time. Plus, throw in the fact that she passed and WWE confirmed a future HOF induction... Anything's possible. Plus, Sean Waltman was part of one of those videos and he has 3 figures now.
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