Casty
Main Eventer
Formerly The Silent Assassin/Zolph Diggler
Joined on: Sept 22, 2007 15:06:48 GMT -5
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Post by Casty on May 18, 2016 22:49:48 GMT -5
Maybe taking a break will help. I hardly watched from 2012 to late 2014, and when I came back to it, I loved it. I do agree though, Reigns + Usos need to be a badass heel stable, Ambrose just needs to be booked better, face Wyatt interests me, and I like Jericho. A brand split would be incredibly refreshing though.
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Post by Bandalero on May 19, 2016 7:47:23 GMT -5
Ambrose should never turn heel. He's great as the anti hero crazy guy who hates authority and breaks rules. Also he's the most over guy's on the roster so a heel turn would be beyond stupid. I respectfully disagree. He's a natural heel, his facial expressions and stupid lips is enough to irritate and get heat. His scripted babyface humour is cringe-worthy. If they don't want to turn Reigns then the only way to feed Ambrose to him would be to turn Ambrose heel and betray his "brother". Jericho is right, he's a lunatic by nick name only. What exactly does he do as a face that makes him crazy and unpredictable? and it is arguable to say he's the most over on the roster because AJ, New Day, Enzo & Cass, Seth (when he's back) etc can all lay claim to that
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Post by honeybear 619 on May 19, 2016 9:20:41 GMT -5
Jericho is the only one I enjoy watching. Stupid idiot:-)
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Post by marino13 on May 19, 2016 9:42:54 GMT -5
WWE at the moment is like a new puzzle. All the pieces are there, but they're not being lined up correctly. While a few pieces are fitting together beautifully, the big picture is still way too scrambled.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 10:26:17 GMT -5
Lets make everyone heel! That works!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 10:31:56 GMT -5
Ambrose is a much better fit as a heel, honestly. That's kind of a proven fact.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 0:20:23 GMT -5
How dare you not appreciate the gift of Jericho?! You're supposed to drink it in, man. It's alright. He's nothing but a stupid idiot so pay no mind to his Jericho hate. Pretty sure direct name calling is a bannable offense here. Just sayin... Anyways, OP I agree with you I guess. But I think WWE's problems are bigger than all of those. There's no single guy who has the potential to be the next Rock or Cena or Austin or whatever. Over the past 30 years, there's always been someone established and a few in the can ready to take their place. I don't get that vibe at all anymore. I see the established guy (Cena) and a whole bunch of question marks. And Vince basically alluded to feeling the same way on the Austin podcast. It may not just be a booking issue either. Wrestling is just not as trendy as it use to be. I feel like EVERYBODY watched wrestling as a kid. But a lot of older people watched it too. EVERYONE knew who Stone Cold was. Even if you didn't watch wrestling you knew who Stone Cold was. I doubt a casual person knows wtf Roman Reigns is. Basically what I'm saying is, wrestling was pretty mainstream at one point. But now, aside from Cena and the Divas, casual people don't really care for WWE anymore. Back in the Austin/Rock days, WWE would have never needed to pay someone for sporadic appearances like they do with Brock. Now they have to because they're getting desperate to keep numbers up. If you really think about it, it's the veterans who are still keeping WWE afloat. Where would WWE be without Cena, Brock, and Undertaker? A 56 year old Sting losing two matches (in embarrassing fashion) still drew more interest than anyone of the active roster could hope for. And that was mainly because of us older fans. I'm really interested to see where WWE, or wrestling in general rather, is in 10 years. I don't have a good feeling about it at all.
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Post by tylerbreezee on May 20, 2016 6:54:54 GMT -5
It's alright. He's nothing but a stupid idiot so pay no mind to his Jericho hate. Pretty sure direct name calling is a bannable offense here. Just sayin... Anyways, OP I agree with you I guess. But I think WWE's problems are bigger than all of those. There's no single guy who has the potential to be the next Rock or Cena or Austin or whatever. Over the past 30 years, there's always been someone established and a few in the can ready to take their place. I don't get that vibe at all anymore. I see the established guy (Cena) and a whole bunch of question marks. And Vince basically alluded to feeling the same way on the Austin podcast. It may not just be a booking issue either. Wrestling is just not as trendy as it use to be. I feel like EVERYBODY watched wrestling as a kid. But a lot of older people watched it too. EVERYONE knew who Stone Cold was. Even if you didn't watch wrestling you knew who Stone Cold was. I doubt a casual person knows wtf Roman Reigns is. Basically what I'm saying is, wrestling was pretty mainstream at one point. But now, aside from Cena and the Divas, casual people don't really care for WWE anymore. Back in the Austin/Rock days, WWE would have never needed to pay someone for sporadic appearances like they do with Brock. Now they have to because they're getting desperate to keep numbers up. If you really think about it, it's the veterans who are still keeping WWE afloat. Where would WWE be without Cena, Brock, and Undertaker? A 56 year old Sting losing two matches (in embarrassing fashion) still drew more interest than anyone of the active roster could hope for. And that was mainly because of us older fans. I'm really interested to see where WWE, or wrestling in general rather, is in 10 years. I don't have a good feeling about it at all. Not when it's a joke because Jericho says it a dozen times every week
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on May 20, 2016 8:36:07 GMT -5
I'm sorry what? Your solution is to turn one of the biggest faces heel, turn the other one that is already getting booed heel and drop one of the best heels they have... Literally the only thing I agree with is that they should be pushing Bray.
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Post by Dan on May 20, 2016 8:46:15 GMT -5
I'm massively bored of the product already since Wrestlemania. Even the intrigue of the Bullet Club situation has fallen flat now. I'm more or less just waiting for Finn Balor's debut to see how they do it.
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Post by Squid: The Anti-Hero on May 20, 2016 9:16:41 GMT -5
Ambrose should never turn heel. He's great as the anti hero crazy guy who hates authority and breaks rules. Also he's the most over guy's on the roster so a heel turn would be beyond stupid. Which is truthfully exactly why they'd do it
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Post by HVMMONS on May 20, 2016 10:37:28 GMT -5
A lot of good superstars are coming through, the Vaudevillains and Enzo and Cass but a few have lost their way I think: Reigns needs to be a heel Ambrose needs to be a heel Wyatt needs a push Jericho needs to be droppedThey shouldn't advertise when wrestlers are coming back, the excitement would be bigger if you never knew and all of a sudden their music pops
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 12:44:45 GMT -5
I've watched people saying it's getting stale since 06. I still enjoy it. 2010 was much worse.
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Post by cripplercrossface on May 20, 2016 16:15:24 GMT -5
It's been getting stale since 2003.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 3:24:45 GMT -5
Pretty sure direct name calling is a bannable offense here. Just sayin... Anyways, OP I agree with you I guess. But I think WWE's problems are bigger than all of those. There's no single guy who has the potential to be the next Rock or Cena or Austin or whatever. Over the past 30 years, there's always been someone established and a few in the can ready to take their place. I don't get that vibe at all anymore. I see the established guy (Cena) and a whole bunch of question marks. And Vince basically alluded to feeling the same way on the Austin podcast. It may not just be a booking issue either. Wrestling is just not as trendy as it use to be. I feel like EVERYBODY watched wrestling as a kid. But a lot of older people watched it too. EVERYONE knew who Stone Cold was. Even if you didn't watch wrestling you knew who Stone Cold was. I doubt a casual person knows wtf Roman Reigns is. Basically what I'm saying is, wrestling was pretty mainstream at one point. But now, aside from Cena and the Divas, casual people don't really care for WWE anymore. Back in the Austin/Rock days, WWE would have never needed to pay someone for sporadic appearances like they do with Brock. Now they have to because they're getting desperate to keep numbers up. If you really think about it, it's the veterans who are still keeping WWE afloat. Where would WWE be without Cena, Brock, and Undertaker? A 56 year old Sting losing two matches (in embarrassing fashion) still drew more interest than anyone of the active roster could hope for. And that was mainly because of us older fans. I'm really interested to see where WWE, or wrestling in general rather, is in 10 years. I don't have a good feeling about it at all. Not when it's a joke because Jericho says it a dozen times every week Oh me I totally missed that. I haven't really cared for Jericho in years so I never really watch him anymore. Apologies sir. Carry on.
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Post by Yayo on May 21, 2016 14:41:48 GMT -5
It's been stale
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Post by Todd Pettengill on May 21, 2016 16:54:06 GMT -5
WWE at the moment is like a new puzzle. All the pieces are there, but they're not being lined up correctly. While a few pieces are fitting together beautifully, the big picture is still way too scrabbled.
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Post by marino13 on May 21, 2016 17:54:49 GMT -5
WWE at the moment is like a new puzzle. All the pieces are there, but they're not being lined up correctly. While a few pieces are fitting together beautifully, the big picture is still way too scrabbled. I'm not exactly sure what happened there.
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