outlawhunter73
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Post by outlawhunter73 on May 15, 2016 21:25:29 GMT -5
I am thinking of trying to shrink some jakks heads down to Mattel scale, has anyone done much of this? I was hoping to find some who could help me.
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Post by @.@ Hempsterdance @.@ on May 16, 2016 20:10:28 GMT -5
There is a lot of videos on YouTube showing how to do it. I've never done it personally but I always wanted to.
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Post by The Assassin on May 20, 2016 8:06:47 GMT -5
I've got loads of heads I'd love to get resized but unfortunately I've learned it's an extremely complicated process requiring a lot of pricey equipment and experience to do properly. And seemingly nobody who can do it takes orders.
It continues to baffle me why apparently nobody in internet land can provide this service for a fair price.
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Post by carlyrsmith on May 30, 2016 0:28:40 GMT -5
If only these 3D printers weren't so expensive
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Post by schmerzdj on Mar 3, 2019 6:46:04 GMT -5
I think the people who can do it but conveniently won't take orders 4 prob full of shit. If they could actually do it and could make money off it, why the hell wouldn't they.
Every thread I've seen on this topic someone pipe's up and says "I can do it, but I don't do it for anyone else"
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Post by mikenorm on Mar 3, 2019 8:56:00 GMT -5
I have done them. It is pretty involved and costly. Once you buy the supplies you can do a bunch but if you’ve never done it before you will waste a lot of money in trail and error. Same with enlarged heads.
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Post by mikenorm on Mar 3, 2019 10:39:52 GMT -5
I think the people who can do it but conveniently won't take orders 4 prob full of crap. If they could actually do it and could make money off it, why the hell wouldn't they. Every thread I've seen on this topic someone pipe's up and says "I can do it, but I don't do it for anyone else"   It’s a very expensive and somewhat time consuming thing. We also have lives and full time jobs so it can be a pain in the ass at times. If I ever get more materials I will sell some stuff |
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Post by theMOESIAH on Mar 4, 2019 20:03:16 GMT -5
I think the people who can do it but conveniently won't take orders 4 prob full of crap. If they could actually do it and could make money off it, why the hell wouldn't they. Every thread I've seen on this topic someone pipe's up and says "I can do it, but I don't do it for anyone else" It’s a very expensive and somewhat time consuming thing. We also have lives and full time jobs so it can be a pain in the ass at times. If I ever get more materials I will sell some stuff Do they ever end up disfigured or disproportioned? |
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Post by Henchmen4Hire on Mar 4, 2019 21:16:19 GMT -5
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Post by Jay on Mar 4, 2019 21:23:11 GMT -5
Platinum cure silicone (trial size)=$40
Good for approximately 10 molds.
Tin cure silicone (trial size)=$40
Good for approximately 10 molds.
Casting resin(24 oz)=$35
Good for about 50 pours, at least half of which will not come out correctly.
Hydroshrink= $40
Good for about 10 good molds and 30 bad.
Measuring cups, mixing sticks, molding cups, casting cups, misc tools.
Staging: 1-2 hrs
Original mold pour: up to 24 hrs
Hydroshrink cast pour: 1-2 hrs until good cast is achieved.
Hydroshrink cast shrink time: up to 5 days.
If the shrink is distorted, repeat the previous 2 steps.
Once good cast is acheived and shrunken, mold again with tin cure: up to 24 hrs.
Pour resin casts in shrunken mold: up to an hour depending on how many copies you want.
Once best possible cast is created, mold again with platinum cure.
You now have a reusable mold to cast from.
Most artists only want to spend that much time, energy, and money on something they really want to work on unless they are being compensated for all of the above. A "reasonable price" to the buyer is not always realistic once all factors are added. Please consider this when you look to commission an artist.
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Post by mikenorm on Mar 4, 2019 22:19:34 GMT -5
Platinum cure silicone (trial size)=$40 Good for approximately 10 molds. Tin cure silicone (trial size)=$40 Good for approximately 10 molds. Casting resin(24 oz)=$35 Good for about 50 pours, at least half of which will not come out correctly. Hydroshrink= $40 Good for about 10 good molds and 30 bad. Measuring cups, mixing sticks, molding cups, casting cups, misc tools. Staging: 1-2 hrs Original mold pour: up to 24 hrs Hydroshrink cast pour: 1-2 hrs until good cast is achieved. Hydroshrink cast shrink time: up to 5 days. If the shrink is distorted, repeat the previous 2 steps. Once good cast is acheived and shrunken, mold again with tin cure: up to 24 hrs. Pour resin casts in shrunken mold: up to an hour depending on how many copies you want. Once best possible cast is created, mold again with platinum cure. You now have a reusable mold to cast from. Most artists only want to spend that much time, energy, and money on something they really want to work on unless they are being compensated for all of the above. A "reasonable price" to the buyer is not always realistic once all factors are added. Please consider this when you look to commission an artist. Perfect . So well said |
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Post by therick on Mar 9, 2019 19:35:34 GMT -5
Platinum cure silicone (trial size)=$40 Good for approximately 10 molds. Tin cure silicone (trial size)=$40 Good for approximately 10 molds. Casting resin(24 oz)=$35 Good for about 50 pours, at least half of which will not come out correctly. Hydroshrink= $40 Good for about 10 good molds and 30 bad. Measuring cups, mixing sticks, molding cups, casting cups, misc tools. Staging: 1-2 hrs Original mold pour: up to 24 hrs Hydroshrink cast pour: 1-2 hrs until good cast is achieved. Hydroshrink cast shrink time: up to 5 days. If the shrink is distorted, repeat the previous 2 steps. Once good cast is acheived and shrunken, mold again with tin cure: up to 24 hrs. Pour resin casts in shrunken mold: up to an hour depending on how many copies you want. Once best possible cast is created, mold again with platinum cure. You now have a reusable mold to cast from. Most artists only want to spend that much time, energy, and money on something they really want to work on unless they are being compensated for all of the above. A "reasonable price" to the buyer is not always realistic once all factors are added. Please consider this when you look to commission an artist. So that's how the process works! Funny, I always thought these guys would 3d-scan, digitally re-size, and then 3d-print the heads. Is there anyone doing that? I feel like there ought to be. |
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Post by Henchmen4Hire on Mar 9, 2019 20:45:55 GMT -5
Platinum cure silicone (trial size)=$40 Good for approximately 10 molds. Tin cure silicone (trial size)=$40 Good for approximately 10 molds. Casting resin(24 oz)=$35 Good for about 50 pours, at least half of which will not come out correctly. Hydroshrink= $40 Good for about 10 good molds and 30 bad. Measuring cups, mixing sticks, molding cups, casting cups, misc tools. Staging: 1-2 hrs Original mold pour: up to 24 hrs Hydroshrink cast pour: 1-2 hrs until good cast is achieved. Hydroshrink cast shrink time: up to 5 days. If the shrink is distorted, repeat the previous 2 steps. Once good cast is acheived and shrunken, mold again with tin cure: up to 24 hrs. Pour resin casts in shrunken mold: up to an hour depending on how many copies you want. Once best possible cast is created, mold again with platinum cure. You now have a reusable mold to cast from. Most artists only want to spend that much time, energy, and money on something they really want to work on unless they are being compensated for all of the above. A "reasonable price" to the buyer is not always realistic once all factors are added. Please consider this when you look to commission an artist. So that's how the process works! Funny, I always thought these guys would 3d-scan, digitally re-size, and then 3d-print the heads. Is there anyone doing that? I feel like there ought to be. After researching that a while ago, it's just as hard/time consuming and even more expensive.
3D scanner with good enough resolution: $2000-$3000 Decent resin printer so the heads actually look good: $1500-$2000 Resin: $80-$100 for 500ml or something ridiculous like that
And that's not even considering the 3D modeling experience you absolutely need to have to clean up the models and turn them into something printable.
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Post by DonDaBomb13 on Mar 10, 2019 11:25:15 GMT -5
I've just started to do the Jakks to Mattel figure head swapping. There are many Jakks heads that fit Mattel bodies well without attempting to "shrink" the heads. I've used La Resistance, Tyson Tomko, Rosey, Basham Bros, Lance Storm & Justin Credible so far. I still have to find compatible Mattel bodies for my Jakks Ultimo Dragon & Elijah Burke heads. My problem is that the neck peg is coming out of the body when I pull the head off after heating it up.
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Post by mikenorm on Mar 10, 2019 11:31:30 GMT -5
I've just started to do the Jakks to Mattel figure head swapping. There are many Jakks heads that fit Mattel bodies well without attempting to "shrink" the heads. I've used La Resistance, Tyson Tomko, Rosey, Basham Bros, Lance Storm & Justin Credible so far. I still have to find compatible Mattel bodies for my Jakks Ultimo Dragon & Elijah Burke heads. My problem is that the neck peg is coming out of the body when I pull the head off after heating it up. Boil water then soak head for a minute. Will pop off without a problem. Yes there are some Jakks heads that go well. Most of them though are of a larger scale ie: classic superstars. |
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Post by DonDaBomb13 on Mar 10, 2019 17:49:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I only dunked the head in the boiling water for about 20-30 seconds. Then I pull off the head, and the damn peg comes out too. Then it's nearly impossible to put the peg back in the body. There are plenty of Jakks heads that are compatible with Mattel bodies, but you may want to you your best judgement before purchasing for the head swap. As far as shrinking the heads, you may want to ask Samu & Fatu (The Headshrinkers).
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Post by therick on Mar 11, 2019 23:34:39 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I only dunked the head in the boiling water for about 20-30 seconds. Then I pull off the head, and the damn peg comes out too. Then it's nearly impossible to put the peg back in the body. There are plenty of Jakks heads that are compatible with Mattel bodies, but you may want to you your best judgement before purchasing for the head swap. As far as shrinking the heads, you may want to ask Samu & Fatu (The Headshrinkers). Are there specific Jakks lines where the heads are made to the scale of the smaller Mattel figs, and if so, which ones? Or is it just an inconsistency of product, in which case you'd have to research the specific figs to fit? I remember seeing a Jakks Tajiri fig where the head seemed a bit small for his body. |
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Post by DonDaBomb13 on Apr 25, 2019 20:40:39 GMT -5
I think its hit or miss with the Jakks heads fitting Mattel bodies to scale. Most of the Classic Superstars, especially with hair seem too big. The later series regular line heads seem too big also.
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Post by dadeadman on Apr 29, 2019 11:23:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I only dunked the head in the boiling water for about 20-30 seconds. Then I pull off the head, and the damn peg comes out too. Then it's nearly impossible to put the peg back in the body. There are plenty of Jakks heads that are compatible with Mattel bodies, but you may want to you your best judgement before purchasing for the head swap. As far as shrinking the heads, you may want to ask Samu & Fatu (The Headshrinkers). Are there specific Jakks lines where the heads are made to the scale of the smaller Mattel figs, and if so, which ones? Or is it just an inconsistency of product, in which case you'd have to research the specific figs to fit? I remember seeing a Jakks Tajiri fig where the head seemed a bit small for his body. The Jakks Titan Tron Live figures (pre Ruthless Aggression) have heads that are more in scale. The problem is that you'll have to use a Dremel to make the heads sit right on a Mattel body. There are also some RA era figures where the heads aren't too large. Tajiri is one and at least one Chris Benoit. You'll have to see how the look for yourself and make your own judgments on whether they're too big for what you want to do. |
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