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Post by bad guy™ on May 30, 2016 13:22:11 GMT -5
That sounds like a great setup. Shame you had health issues and had to back out of it. -- I know right, this year I would've been a 10yr vet... last time I was in the ring was a TNA ring for Gutcheck (same class as Chad Gable before he was signed), 6wks later boom, I was done. But I credit all my knowledge to Severn (and Josh Raymond -WSX/ROH-, who was a trainer there at that time after Jimmy Jacobs left), for getting me that far. Other of his students who did make it are Christian Able (who unfortunately passed last month) in ROH, CJ Otis in ROH & AJPW, Monty Brown in TNA & WWECW, Louis Lynden & Flip Kendrick in Dragon Gate USA, and just about all his other students who stuck with it, have had no trouble getting bookings. Quite the list. |
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on May 30, 2016 17:41:14 GMT -5
That sounds like a great setup. Shame you had health issues and had to back out of it. -- I know right, this year I would've been a 10yr vet... last time I was in the ring was a TNA ring for Gutcheck (same class as Chad Gable before he was signed), 6wks later boom, I was done. But I credit all my knowledge to Severn (and Josh Raymond -WSX/ROH-, who was a trainer there at that time after Jimmy Jacobs left), for getting me that far. Other of his students who did make it are Christian Able (who unfortunately passed last month) in ROH, CJ Otis in ROH & AJPW, Monty Brown in TNA & WWECW, Louis Lynden & Flip Kendrick in Dragon Gate USA, and just about all his other students who stuck with it, have had no trouble getting bookings. Sometimes it's suck a hard thing to stick with. I quit due to starting my own business and it getting busier and I didn't have the energy to put into wrestling anymore which sucked. I do miss it some days but it is hard to make a buck on the Indys and pay the bills |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 17:46:44 GMT -5
Be careful of schools that charge you a large entry fee and then ridiculous amounts every week or when ever you want ting time.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on May 30, 2016 18:28:52 GMT -5
-- I know right, this year I would've been a 10yr vet... last time I was in the ring was a TNA ring for Gutcheck (same class as Chad Gable before he was signed), 6wks later boom, I was done. But I credit all my knowledge to Severn (and Josh Raymond -WSX/ROH-, who was a trainer there at that time after Jimmy Jacobs left), for getting me that far. Other of his students who did make it are Christian Able (who unfortunately passed last month) in ROH, CJ Otis in ROH & AJPW, Monty Brown in TNA & WWECW, Louis Lynden & Flip Kendrick in Dragon Gate USA, and just about all his other students who stuck with it, have had no trouble getting bookings. Sometimes it's suck a hard thing to stick with. I quit due to starting my own business and it getting busier and I didn't have the energy to put into wrestling anymore which sucked. I do miss it some days but it is hard to make a buck on the Indys and pay the bills I can respect all of that. At least at the end of the day you can say that you truly went out and chased your dreams man. |
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Post by theMOESIAH on May 30, 2016 21:51:52 GMT -5
Harley Race has a PHENOMENAL school in Missouri. Not too far from where you're from. He's got an in with Vince. In fact, both of Ted DiBiase's kids were trained there. As well as Trevor Murdoch. He's got a deal with NOAH too. He sends his wrestlers down there from time to time. www.harleyrace.com/academyinformation.html |
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Post by Jonathan Karate on May 31, 2016 4:23:47 GMT -5
I currently live in Philadelphia and I'm also looking for a school to call home.
At the moment the only two I've been able to find in the area that seem legit are The Wrestle Factory and The CZW Academy (Adam Cole and Drew Gulak aren't doing too bad for themselves).
I'm torn though, I wish there was a school close to here run by someone with a lot more depth knowledge wise. All of the schools around Philly are run by indies and indie wrestlers from what I've seen.
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Post by rowdy1971 on May 31, 2016 8:51:31 GMT -5
Just because someone has a "name" doesn't mean that their school is going to be the best. Sure it helps with some things but what you're paying $4000 is for mainly the "name' of the person who is on the door. I can assure you that Seth Rollins is nowhere near his school and won't teach you how to lock up. I've been wrestling for over 13 years and in the Chicagoland area. I trained with some of the guys who were a part of Windy City Wrestling and unfortunately they are no longer with us. I was lucky. I was able to get great training and only paid $100 a month to use their gym and take their classes and they ran classes Mon-Thurs. Fri/sat/sun were for local shows and that's where I got the best training.
I wish everyone luck in this. But please, have an education to fall back on or a trade. Like one of the posters above, he had to quit for health reasons. There is NO guarantee and the odds of any of us or our kids and our kids kids getting into anything close to even ROH or Lucha Underground or whatever are about as good as Raw starting off without a 20 min boring ass promo! For every indy fed there are over 50 guys who want to have that one spot. Here in Chicago there are, at least, 15 different feds. Times that with every major city all over the world and blah blah blah. Keep your eye on the prize, but make sure you keep your foot in the present.
And in closing, I will pass on the wise words that Jimmy Hart once told me. "Invest in your gimmick and your gimmick will invest in you".
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Post by MR._SOCKO on May 31, 2016 10:31:35 GMT -5
I've been wrestling for 13 years now.
There are A LOT of wrestling schools out there but most of them suck.
I would save up some money and pay the big bucks to go train with someone that has an in with WWE (Booker T, Lance Storm, etc.). I would highly recommend Lance Storm's school. It's in Canada and there's usually a wait to get a spot but a lot of his students are doing really well.
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Post by Sizzle on May 31, 2016 10:40:32 GMT -5
Anyone know if Dory Funk's school is good? It's got a notable name behind it, but is it a nice school to train at?
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on May 31, 2016 15:39:33 GMT -5
Sometimes it's suck a hard thing to stick with. I quit due to starting my own business and it getting busier and I didn't have the energy to put into wrestling anymore which sucked. I do miss it some days but it is hard to make a buck on the Indys and pay the bills I can respect all of that. At least at the end of the day you can say that you truly went out and chased your dreams man. Yeah it was kind of at a bad time in my life so it kinda went all crazy towards the end. I wish I went back some days because it was a lot of fun for the most part. It is very hard to get bookings and such so I am glad my business took off Bc I don't know how wrestling would of went. It's very cut throat and ass kissing and me being the quiet type just wants to go about my business. I can say I did it and it was a thrill to do though and will always have the great experience and got to meet and hang with some pretty cool people |
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Post by That 80s Guy on Jun 1, 2016 12:13:42 GMT -5
-- I know right, this year I would've been a 10yr vet... last time I was in the ring was a TNA ring for Gutcheck (same class as Chad Gable before he was signed), 6wks later boom, I was done. But I credit all my knowledge to Severn (and Josh Raymond -WSX/ROH-, who was a trainer there at that time after Jimmy Jacobs left), for getting me that far. Other of his students who did make it are Christian Able (who unfortunately passed last month) in ROH, CJ Otis in ROH & AJPW, Monty Brown in TNA & WWECW, Louis Lynden & Flip Kendrick in Dragon Gate USA, and just about all his other students who stuck with it, have had no trouble getting bookings. Sometimes it's suck a hard thing to stick with. I quit due to starting my own business and it getting busier and I didn't have the energy to put into wrestling anymore which sucked. I do miss it some days but it is hard to make a buck on the Indys and pay the bills -- I hear ya brother! I attended a local indy show for the first time in several years, just in April. Got to catch up with old colleagues and it only made me respect them that much more, because they're still doing it - not for the money, but for the love of it (guys who I've wrestled, that are from out of state even, still doing it... it's amazing!) What area did you work out of and who trained you? (just curious). If you're able to make $ over wrestling, that's nothing to be ashamed of; that's an old philosophy even the late greats would agree with - go where the money is hah. |
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Post by That 80s Guy on Jun 1, 2016 12:32:38 GMT -5
I currently live in Philadelphia and I'm also looking for a school to call home. At the moment the only two I've been able to find in the area that seem legit are The Wrestle Factory and The CZW Academy (Adam Cole and Drew Gulak aren't doing too bad for themselves). I'm torn though, I wish there was a school close to here run by someone with a lot more depth knowledge wise. All of the schools around Philly are run by indies and indie wrestlers from what I've seen. -- If the cost is reasonably affordable, I'd say start your training with those indy guys. Worst case scenario, you learn the basics. While you're training with them, keep looking for more reputable/merit-wise schools. Once you find one you really want to stick with, you'll have more confidence in yourself in what to expect. Before I got in at Severn's camp, I had trained briefly with Jesse Hernandez's School of Hard Knocks in San Bernardino, CA (that's where I learned the very basic of the basics lol). Once under Severn's roof, I was more confident about approaching the new training adventure - yeah, I was "deprogramed" of everything Jesse taught me, but the transition was a learning experience (remember, you can never learn enough in wrestling, just as in life). As a former indy guy, I've actually thought about becoming a trainer on a similar level of a Stu Hart, since I have a lot more shoot-style knowledge than pro wrestling knowledge (plus, living in Stampede territory, Stu is kind of a hero of mine lol). But it's kind of a goal of mine to just pass on knowledge I DO know and let students go from there (if they want more training elsewhere, awesome! If they want to get their feet wet in the ring right away and learn from experience, that's great too). But as someone here already said, just cause someone's a "name", doesn't mean you should shell out ubers amount of $$$$. So whatever you choose, best of luck to ya! |
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Post by Darkhawk on Jun 1, 2016 14:33:54 GMT -5
Just because someone has a "name" doesn't mean that their school is going to be the best. Sure it helps with some things but what you're paying $4000 is for mainly the "name' of the person who is on the door. I can assure you that Seth Rollins is nowhere near his school and won't teach you how to lock up. I've been wrestling for over 13 years and in the Chicagoland area. I trained with some of the guys who were a part of Windy City Wrestling and unfortunately they are no longer with us. I was lucky. I was able to get great training and only paid $100 a month to use their gym and take their classes and they ran classes Mon-Thurs. Fri/sat/sun were for local shows and that's where I got the best training. I wish everyone luck in this. But please, have an education to fall back on or a trade. Like one of the posters above, he had to quit for health reasons. There is NO guarantee and the odds of any of us or our kids and our kids kids getting into anything close to even ROH or Lucha Underground or whatever are about as good as Raw starting off without a 20 min boring ass promo! For every indy fed there are over 50 guys who want to have that one spot. Here in Chicago there are, at least, 15 different feds. Times that with every major city all over the world and blah blah blah. Keep your eye on the prize, but make sure you keep your foot in the present. And in closing, I will pass on the wise words that Jimmy Hart once told me. "Invest in your gimmick and your gimmick will invest in you". That is some great advice from Jimmy Hart. Unfortunately though most people I've talked to when I was training don't believe gimmicks. Although it's something I want to bring back into the business for sure and I've thought of some great gimmicks that I want to see come alive one day. But I honestly think when it comes to Pro Wrestling there's 2 things way to go. You either physically look great or you have a great gimmick. |
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Post by rowdy1971 on Jun 1, 2016 15:09:04 GMT -5
Just because someone has a "name" doesn't mean that their school is going to be the best. Sure it helps with some things but what you're paying $4000 is for mainly the "name' of the person who is on the door. I can assure you that Seth Rollins is nowhere near his school and won't teach you how to lock up. I've been wrestling for over 13 years and in the Chicagoland area. I trained with some of the guys who were a part of Windy City Wrestling and unfortunately they are no longer with us. I was lucky. I was able to get great training and only paid $100 a month to use their gym and take their classes and they ran classes Mon-Thurs. Fri/sat/sun were for local shows and that's where I got the best training. I wish everyone luck in this. But please, have an education to fall back on or a trade. Like one of the posters above, he had to quit for health reasons. There is NO guarantee and the odds of any of us or our kids and our kids kids getting into anything close to even ROH or Lucha Underground or whatever are about as good as Raw starting off without a 20 min boring ass promo! For every indy fed there are over 50 guys who want to have that one spot. Here in Chicago there are, at least, 15 different feds. Times that with every major city all over the world and blah blah blah. Keep your eye on the prize, but make sure you keep your foot in the present. And in closing, I will pass on the wise words that Jimmy Hart once told me. "Invest in your gimmick and your gimmick will invest in you". That is some great advice from Jimmy Hart. Unfortunately though most people I've talked to when I was training don't believe gimmicks. Although it's something I want to bring back into the business for sure and I've thought of some great gimmicks that I want to see come alive one day. But I honestly think when it comes to Pro Wrestling there's 2 things way to go. You either physically look great or you have a great gimmick. You are 100% right. Now I wasn't the greatest wrestler out there, I can hold my own and I usually kept it in the 80's style, as a heel you can cheat many different ways, but I have a good gimmick. I never wear the same thing two shows in a row and if I got out there more then one time a night, I always wear different outfits. Along with the gimmicks, an acting class wouldn't hurt. I'm also an actor, I've done over 100 theater shows in many many years and I use that along with my improv training, I am an alum of "Second City". If anyone is TRULY serious then they would benefit by taking improv lessons. There is so much more then looking good that will carry you far in wrestling. |
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Post by Darkhawk on Jun 1, 2016 16:00:39 GMT -5
That is some great advice from Jimmy Hart. Unfortunately though most people I've talked to when I was training don't believe gimmicks. Although it's something I want to bring back into the business for sure and I've thought of some great gimmicks that I want to see come alive one day. But I honestly think when it comes to Pro Wrestling there's 2 things way to go. You either physically look great or you have a great gimmick. You are 100% right. Now I wasn't the greatest wrestler out there, I can hold my own and I usually kept it in the 80's style, as a heel you can cheat many different ways, but I have a good gimmick. I never wear the same thing two shows in a row and if I got out there more then one time a night, I always wear different outfits. Along with the gimmicks, an acting class wouldn't hurt. I'm also an actor, I've done over 100 theater shows in many many years and I use that along with my improv training, I am an alum of "Second City". If anyone is TRULY serious then they would benefit by taking improv lessons. There is so much more then looking good that will carry you far in wrestling. 80's style wrestling is a good way to go, it can be very entertaining too. Like I saw Hulk Hogan face Ric Flair on Raw 2002 and it was much more enjoyable than the matches that are happening now. And I agree with the outfits part, it's always good to not always look the same every night you wrestle. And that's really impressive you've done that many theater shows, I may indeed have to take improv lessons to work on my acting. And it's not so much of looking good, it's more of standing out now. I've seen so many wrestlers with kickpads, tights or trunks and they all look the same. There's nothing unique or original about that. Some really good advice I once heard was if you're going to be a wrestler. "Dress up in your gear, look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself. Would I pay to see that?" But I mean I have my ideas to stand out, I just need to learn how to wrestle first before I can do anything. |
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jun 1, 2016 17:00:28 GMT -5
Sometimes it's suck a hard thing to stick with. I quit due to starting my own business and it getting busier and I didn't have the energy to put into wrestling anymore which sucked. I do miss it some days but it is hard to make a buck on the Indys and pay the bills -- I hear ya brother! I attended a local indy show for the first time in several years, just in April. Got to catch up with old colleagues and it only made me respect them that much more, because they're still doing it - not for the money, but for the love of it (guys who I've wrestled, that are from out of state even, still doing it... it's amazing!) What area did you work out of and who trained you? (just curious). If you're able to make $ over wrestling, that's nothing to be ashamed of; that's an old philosophy even the late greats would agree with - go where the money is hah. Trained in NJ under Jay lethal and Azrieal. When AJ Lee first joined the school she was in my class and we helped her get up to speed with us. I actually had her number at one point lol It was a lot of fun in there but just ended up not being for me. |
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 1, 2016 23:42:55 GMT -5
-- I hear ya brother! I attended a local indy show for the first time in several years, just in April. Got to catch up with old colleagues and it only made me respect them that much more, because they're still doing it - not for the money, but for the love of it (guys who I've wrestled, that are from out of state even, still doing it... it's amazing!) What area did you work out of and who trained you? (just curious). If you're able to make $ over wrestling, that's nothing to be ashamed of; that's an old philosophy even the late greats would agree with - go where the money is hah. Trained in NJ under Jay lethal and Azrieal. When AJ Lee first joined the school she was in my class and we helped her get up to speed with us. I actually had her number at one point lol It was a lot of fun in there but just ended up not being for me. You had Lee's number? Damn you. |
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jun 2, 2016 7:28:33 GMT -5
Trained in NJ under Jay lethal and Azrieal. When AJ Lee first joined the school she was in my class and we helped her get up to speed with us. I actually had her number at one point lol It was a lot of fun in there but just ended up not being for me. You had Lee's number? Damn you. Yeah I am pretty sure she changed it now. Haven't tried it in forever lol. I used to hang out with her all the time. |
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 2, 2016 10:26:10 GMT -5
You had Lee's number? Damn you. Yeah I am pretty sure she changed it now. Haven't tried it in forever lol. I used to hang out with her all the time. I used to like you. You're now dead to me. |
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Post by Darkhawk on Jun 2, 2016 12:16:00 GMT -5
You had Lee's number? Damn you. Yeah I am pretty sure she changed it now. Haven't tried it in forever lol. I used to hang out with her all the time. You think she'll remember you if she saw you again? Be her friend again that way you can meet CM Punk and ask him why he's being a little b**ch? xD No jk but it would be cool to hang out with them though. |
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