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Post by The Champ is Here! on Jun 28, 2016 13:29:57 GMT -5
Apparently its been missed that i said that Lebron is great. I get that, he is great, and i get the argument that he is better than Bird, i totally understand it. I wasn't mentioning Kyrie as a footnote on Lebron, YOU brought him up saying that i probably thought he deserved mvp. No, i don't. Lebron was mvp, no question, that was my point I don't hate Lebron just because he beat the Pacers. I hate him for the way he handled going to Miami. I hate him for the arrogance he displays on the court, how he whines about not getting a call (and yes, i know he gets less calls than he should ), but then when he commits a foul throws a hissy fit. I hate him because after Cleveland won it was Lebron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers, not just the Cleveland Cavaliers. I'm not butthurt, I'm not bitter. I don't give 2 s at this point. The Cavs deserved to win, the figured out a great plan, executed it, and turned Curry into a joke. Season over, i move on I've been watching basketball since i was 5, in 25 years i have seen many great players, some I loved, some I hated. I saw Bird at the end of his career, I've seen replays of him during his prime, ive seen Lebron during his prime. The comparison is there to be made. I get both sides. I pick Bird, because he is the better shooter, and i want that strength over the strengths Lebron brings. You want Lebron? Fine, i understand and respect that thought I'm done with this discussion now as i don't want the thread locked
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 28, 2016 15:01:48 GMT -5
PG - Magic Johnson SG - Michael Jordan SF - Larry Bird PF - Charles Barkley C - Shaq
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Post by Vamp55 on Jul 6, 2016 2:10:07 GMT -5
Probably best at each position:
Magic Jordan Lebron Duncan Wilt
My picks (personal favs)
Curry Kobe Jordan Pippen Garnett
Man U could go so many different ways with this.
What era does the team play? If its today's game then u pick basically all wings and Leborn plays at the 4, with Duncan at the 5.
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Post by Nathan from Aus on Jul 6, 2016 8:14:33 GMT -5
Nash Allen Jordan James O'Neal
6th man: Magic
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Post by Tim of thee on Jul 12, 2016 12:33:30 GMT -5
Who would you rather start your team with.
Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, or Karl Malone?
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Post by T R W on Jul 12, 2016 12:52:32 GMT -5
Who would you rather start your team with. Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, or Karl Malone? That's a really tough one. I'm a big fan of Malone and Duncan. I think you could easily argue one is better than the other and be correct. In only a slight edge I would go Malone.
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Post by Tim of thee on Jul 12, 2016 13:00:27 GMT -5
Who would you rather start your team with. Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, or Karl Malone? That's a really tough one. I'm a big fan of Malone and Duncan. I think you could easily argue one is better than the other and be correct. In only a slight edge I would go Malone. Malone was so good. Underrated even because he didn't win a title. But even when he was on the Lakers that one year, he was the team MVP.
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Post by T R W on Jul 12, 2016 14:05:38 GMT -5
That's a really tough one. I'm a big fan of Malone and Duncan. I think you could easily argue one is better than the other and be correct. In only a slight edge I would go Malone. Malone was so good. Underrated even because he didn't win a title. But even when he was on the Lakers that one year, he was the team MVP. A lot of people only think about his inside game, which was tremendous, but he was also had a killer fadeaway mid range jumper that was extremely difficult to stop. He was also a really good passer and a very good defender.
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Post by Tim of thee on Jul 12, 2016 14:12:13 GMT -5
Malone was so good. Underrated even because he didn't win a title. But even when he was on the Lakers that one year, he was the team MVP. A lot of people only think about his inside game, which was tremendous, but he was also had a killer fadeaway mid range jumper that was extremely difficult to stop. He was also a really good passer and a very good defender. Excellent passer and tough defender (sometimes illegal). I admired his game. But his FT routine was FREAKING ANNOYING. How long does it take to shoot an open shot?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 14:30:09 GMT -5
A lot of people only think about his inside game, which was tremendous, but he was also had a killer fadeaway mid range jumper that was extremely difficult to stop. He was also a really good passer and a very good defender. Excellent passer and tough defender (sometimes illegal). I admired his game. But his FT routine was FREAKING ANNOYING. How long does it take to shoot an open shot? This is also my way of saying I'd pick Karl too.
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Post by Tim of thee on Jul 12, 2016 14:33:55 GMT -5
Excellent passer and tough defender (sometimes illegal). I admired his game. But his FT routine was FREAKING ANNOYING. How long does it take to shoot an open shot? This is also my way of saying I'd pick Karl too. Throw dem bows
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Post by Tim of thee on Jul 12, 2016 14:42:19 GMT -5
To answer my own question I'd go with Duncan. He was just so sound. He played the game right and his teammates grew better around him. I don't think the Spurs win any titles without Tim.
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Post by johnnyb on Jul 12, 2016 19:07:46 GMT -5
I love KG and watched him for years in Minnesota, but Duncan had the best career, the longest sustained high level of play, and anchored defenses better than KG or Malone.
And TBH I'd take Garnett over Malone as well. A handful of other PFs too... though Duncan played over half of his career as a center, so I compare him more to guys like Russell and Shaq.
EDIT: And also, I'd take LeBron over Bird any day. I personally consider him the greatest player in the history of the league. Bird was a hell of a player, but he was a pretty miserable defender. LeBron is light years ahead of him in that department.
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Post by Tim of thee on Jul 12, 2016 19:29:07 GMT -5
I love KG and watched him for years in Minnesota, but Duncan had the best career, the longest sustained high level of play, and anchored defenses better than KG or Malone. And TBH I'd take Garnett over Malone as well. A handful of other PFs too... though Duncan played over half of his career as a center, so I compare him more to guys like Russell and Shaq. EDIT: And also, I'd take LeBron over Bird any day. I personally consider him the greatest player in the history of the league. Bird was a hell of a player, but he was a pretty miserable defender. LeBron is light years ahead of him in that department. Just out of curiousity which other PFs?
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Post by johnnyb on Jul 13, 2016 0:18:18 GMT -5
I love KG and watched him for years in Minnesota, but Duncan had the best career, the longest sustained high level of play, and anchored defenses better than KG or Malone. And TBH I'd take Garnett over Malone as well. A handful of other PFs too... though Duncan played over half of his career as a center, so I compare him more to guys like Russell and Shaq. EDIT: And also, I'd take LeBron over Bird any day. I personally consider him the greatest player in the history of the league. Bird was a hell of a player, but he was a pretty miserable defender. LeBron is light years ahead of him in that department. Just out of curiousity which other PFs? These guys are all really close, so I hope this doesn't come across as me being disrespectful towards Malone (though to be fair, he impregnated a 15-year-old when he was in college, so there's that) but I'd take these guys' primes over Malone's: Dirk Nowitzki (who probably makes me all-time top 10), Charles Barkley, Kevin McHale, and Dennis Rodman. To me, Malone is a more in the league of guys like Shawn Kemp, Chris Webber, Pau Gasol, guys like that.
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Post by Tim of thee on Jul 13, 2016 1:59:44 GMT -5
Just out of curiousity which other PFs? These guys are all really close, so I hope this doesn't come across as me being disrespectful towards Malone (though to be fair, he impregnated a 15-year-old when he was in college, so there's that) but I'd take these guys' primes over Malone's: Dirk Nowitzki (who probably makes me all-time top 10), Charles Barkley, Kevin McHale, and Dennis Rodman. To me, Malone is a more in the league of guys like Shawn Kemp, Chris Webber, Pau Gasol, guys like that. all great choices too I was just curious as to who you were alluding to. It's fun to drum up that conversation. I definitely think, just going from my memories of these players, that Malone was such an all around player I would absolutely put him above Kemp and Gasol (and I love Gasol!). I wouldn't put Webber next to Malone on a bus though (lol no bias there!) Rodman is an interesting choice. His game was all defense and rebounds, but he was the best! Dirk is great too. Such offensive brilliance. 'd put Barkley closest to Malone, personally. But Barkley was never as smooth and wasn't as good a playmaker for his team mates as Malone. I'd say the PF position is probably the closest competition out of all positions. So many great choices you could argue any of 'em really. except Webber....
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Post by Vamp55 on Dec 25, 2016 7:54:20 GMT -5
Give me LeBron over Bird 12 months of the year. Except maybe in June? Bird 5 finals 3 rings Lebron 7 finals 3 rings
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 21:13:08 GMT -5
PG - McGrady - could've been one of the greatest but injuries limited him SG- Jordan - is there even a reason why I should explain this one SF - Kobe - favorite player and had to put Jordan at SG PF - LeBron - one of the most athletic players in sports history C - O'Neal - easily a top 5 most dominant big of all time
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Jan 10, 2017 9:07:37 GMT -5
This is from June, just came across it, basically it proves that the argument between Bird and LBJ is a legit one And yes, LBJ is a better defender, but a big part of that is his athleticism Larry was not very athletic, he was slow, but his basketball IQ was second to none, he was an awesome off ball and help defender because he could see what was happening before it did. Had he had the athletic prowess of an MJ or LBJ, he would probably be the greatest ever. But he wasn't, therefore he isn't But the stats show that they are pretty equal overall As for the Malone, TD, KG question, I'm taking KG, just because I've always loved his fire, and he is one of my favorite players ever...but the other two are better
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Post by bigraj on Feb 7, 2017 10:36:34 GMT -5
PG - Magic Johnson SG - Michael Jordan SF - Larry Bird PF - Tim Duncan C - Shaquille O'Neal
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