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Post by Yoshihiko The G.O.A.T on Jun 20, 2016 11:34:21 GMT -5
Not Sure If This Goes Here Or In Classic Or In TNA Butttt....
What If WWE Responded to the Voodoo Kin Mafia and started another war? Around 2007 the New Age Outlaws were in TNA and they Went under the name "Voodoo Kin Mafia" or VKM for short and declaring "war" on WWE. During the "war" they called out the revived D-Generation X (DX), calling it a "failure" and stated that the original run was saved by their insertion as The New Age Outlaws in 1998. During their matches and promos on TNA television they continually included references to DX, including use of their signature taunts and maneuvers. Soon a series of vignettes began airing on Impact! with B.G. and Kip in and around Stamford, Connecticut, calling out Paul Levesque, Michael Hickenbottom, and Vince McMahon. During the vignettes they said they were trying to get a cease and desist letter signed and get WWE to stop using the DX name. They also answered an open challenge from the Hardys while they were WWE. They Would Show up at WWE Events with Russo and Camera Crews. This Went On For About A year With No Response From Vince McMahon(Whose Initials are also VKM). So What If WWE Responded And Started another Inter-promotional War?
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Post by BulletV1 on Jun 20, 2016 11:38:58 GMT -5
There would be no war. TNA tried to go head to head with Raw and got pummeled so badly they went back to Thursdays in like three weeks.
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Post by Yoshihiko The G.O.A.T on Jun 20, 2016 11:46:50 GMT -5
It wasn't about ratings. it was supposed to be an invasion. VKM wanted to wrestle Dx at first then called out the whole company BulletV1
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Jun 20, 2016 11:49:42 GMT -5
This was around the time I was watching TNA weekly. I remember them being in the Alamo looking for HBK and thought it was the greatest thing.
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Post by marino13 on Jun 20, 2016 11:56:26 GMT -5
Not Sure If This Goes Here Or In Classic Or In TNA Butttt.... What If WWE Responded to the Voodoo Kin Mafia and started another war? Around 2007 the New Age Outlaws were in TNA and they Went under the name "Voodoo Kin Mafia" or VKM for short and declaring "war" on WWE. During the "war" they called out the revived D-Generation X (DX), calling it a "failure" and stated that the original run was saved by their insertion as The New Age Outlaws in 1998. During their matches and promos on TNA television they continually included references to DX, including use of their signature taunts and maneuvers. Soon a series of vignettes began airing on Impact! with B.G. and Kip in and around Stamford, Connecticut, calling out Paul Levesque, Michael Hickenbottom, and Vince McMahon. During the vignettes they said they were trying to get a cease and desist letter signed and get WWE to stop using the DX name. They also answered an open challenge from the Hardys while they were WWE. They Would Show up at WWE Events with Russo and Camera Crews. This Went On For About A year With No Response From Vince McMahon(Whose Initials are also VKM). So What If WWE Responded And Started another Inter-promotional War? To be honest, I'm not even sure where this should go. But I'm going to move this to the TNA section since it was a TNA story line.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 20, 2016 12:58:19 GMT -5
I remember hearing that Triple H wanted VKM to come back to the WWE too to help DX in their battle with the Spirit Squad, but then Triple H got word of Billy's comments on him and nixed the idea.
That is why VKM got started I think. Billy and Road Dogg were a bit angry that Shawn and Hunter were doing the DX thing without them.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 20, 2016 16:18:56 GMT -5
A war requires at least 2 different sides waging battle with one another....not WWE squashing TNA to tiny pieces. TNA isnt worth WWE's time and WWE is too big of an animal to slay with what TNA had or has now. TNA needs to worry about TNA and forget WWE.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jun 20, 2016 16:41:19 GMT -5
A war requires at least 2 different sides waging battle with one another....not WWE squashing TNA to tiny pieces. TNA isnt worth WWE's time and WWE is too big of an animal to slay with what TNA had or has now. TNA needs to worry about TNA and forget WWE. Plus the thing about it too is that Vince learned a lesson during the Monday Night Wars not to respond to the competition. Because at the time the whole VKM thing was happening, TNA was the closest thing to competition there was. Not dangerous competition but an alternative nevertheless.
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Post by Lewscher on Jun 20, 2016 17:19:55 GMT -5
I remember this fondly. However never knew the backstage details and all that garb. Thought it was fantastic at the time!!! I LOVED TNA with an ecw type passion (until hogan/Eric) and this VKM phase was phenomenal to me not knowing the real deal beyond kayfebe
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jun 20, 2016 18:21:45 GMT -5
It would've made WWE look small-time to dignify a non-entity promotion with a response. This was during the time period when fans in airports were asking Christian Cage why he wasn't wrestling anymore because TNA was so far below people's radars that they thought he'd retired.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 20, 2016 22:25:03 GMT -5
A war requires at least 2 different sides waging battle with one another....not WWE squashing TNA to tiny pieces. TNA isnt worth WWE's time and WWE is too big of an animal to slay with what TNA had or has now. TNA needs to worry about TNA and forget WWE. Plus the thing about it too is that Vince learned a lesson during the Monday Night Wars not to respond to the competition. Because at the time the whole VKM thing was happening, TNA was the closest thing to competition there was. Not dangerous competition but an alternative nevertheless. Yeah but WCW was legit competition. Monday Night Wars had already seen WCW TAKE big names from WWE like Hogan and Savage. Then Hall and Nash and many more. When one company is raiding your company and taking top stars, signing them to BIGGER contracts and guarantees in a time you didnt guarantee....they were more than legit. While TNA was able to offer a place to perform for guys like Christian and Angle....lets not try and believe that they went there for more money, better guarantees. They went there because they didnt want to be apart of WWE anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 22:33:14 GMT -5
I watched religously until 2010 immortal but i thiugjt setertonin was coming out but it was entertaining. Atthis point tna was such a superior product than wwe
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jun 22, 2016 21:53:26 GMT -5
I remember this fondly. However never knew the backstage details and all that garb. Thought it was fantastic at the time!!! I LOVED TNA with an ecw type passion (until hogan/Eric) and this VKM phase was phenomenal to me not knowing the real deal beyond kayfebe Same here. I couldn't belive they would actually move to Mondays though. Who could have thought that would end well???
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jun 22, 2016 22:34:24 GMT -5
I remember this fondly. However never knew the backstage details and all that garb. Thought it was fantastic at the time!!! I LOVED TNA with an ecw type passion (until hogan/Eric) and this VKM phase was phenomenal to me not knowing the real deal beyond kayfebe Same here. I couldn't belive they would actually move to Mondays though. Who could have thought that would end well??? I'm pretty sure that was Hogan swelling the heads of the TNA execs that they could actually compete on Monday nights. Personally I feel like they should've tried competing with Smackdown for a while first. Go live on Thursday or Friday (can't remember if SD was on Fridays at that time) and see if you can pull viewers away consistently from Smackdown, that would have told them how viable they were as competition.
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Post by IRS on Jun 23, 2016 0:44:51 GMT -5
I remember this fondly. However never knew the backstage details and all that garb. Thought it was fantastic at the time!!! I LOVED TNA with an ecw type passion (until hogan/Eric) and this VKM phase was phenomenal to me not knowing the real deal beyond kayfebe Same here. I couldn't belive they would actually move to Mondays though. Who could have thought that would end well??? Well, you see, Hulk Hogan still believed (and probably still does) that he's the biggest draw in wrestling at any point in time, and as long as he's on the card, people will watch, BROTHER.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jun 23, 2016 9:02:53 GMT -5
Same here. I couldn't belive they would actually move to Mondays though. Who could have thought that would end well??? I'm pretty sure that was Hogan swelling the heads of the TNA execs that they could actually compete on Monday nights. Personally I feel like they should've tried competing with Smackdown for a while first. Go live on Thursday or Friday (can't remember if SD was on Fridays at that time) and see if you can pull viewers away consistently from Smackdown, that would have told them how viable they were as competition. I think that would have worked. I remember there being a fairly significant amount of time where Impact had higher ratings than Smackdown.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jun 23, 2016 9:03:50 GMT -5
Same here. I couldn't belive they would actually move to Mondays though. Who could have thought that would end well??? Well, you see, Hulk Hogan still believed (and probably still does) that he's the biggest draw in wrestling at any point in time, and as long as he's on the card, people will watch, BROTHER. Was Hogan part of the company then? I thought this was before he and Bischoff got there.
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Post by IRS on Jun 23, 2016 13:44:21 GMT -5
Well, you see, Hulk Hogan still believed (and probably still does) that he's the biggest draw in wrestling at any point in time, and as long as he's on the card, people will watch, BROTHER. Was Hogan part of the company then? I thought this was before he and Bischoff got there. Yes, they were the reason for it. They convinced Dixie they would be able to turn the company into legitimate competition with WWE.... by bringing in Val Venis, The Nasty Boys, and Orlando Jordan apparently. Hogan came into the company right around the end of 2009, and the first Monday Night Impact was on January 4th, 2010 - which hilariously went up against the same RAW where Bret Hart returned to WWE.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jun 23, 2016 23:47:52 GMT -5
Was Hogan part of the company then? I thought this was before he and Bischoff got there. Yes, they were the reason for it. They convinced Dixie they would be able to turn the company into legitimate competition with WWE.... by bringing in Val Venis, The Nasty Boys, and Orlando Jordan apparently. Hogan came into the company right around the end of 2009, and the first Monday Night Impact was on January 4th, 2010 - which hilariously went up against the same RAW where Bret Hart returned to WWE. Ugh. My brain must have blocked that out. Like a traumatic incident.
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Post by K5 on Jun 24, 2016 12:45:35 GMT -5
if there was one good thing about the whole thing, it would be the last time 'the gang' tried to pull that balogna on the business.
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