FUSamBaker
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Biggest crush on Sami Zayn.
Joined on: Sept 6, 2005 19:25:20 GMT -5
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Post by FUSamBaker on Jun 22, 2016 12:28:43 GMT -5
Okay so I've been a dedicated TNA fan for about 7 years now. I started watching when my ex forced me to watch (he was a huge fan of MCMG and Styles) haha. Now I can admit that when they made the move to Destination America, my tv provider dropped that channel. So I missed out on a good chunk of time. I didn't start watching it again until two months ago. I got a new tv provider and found Impact on POP! I was excited.
I was hoping the constant title swapping had stopped. It was almost too much to watch the title bouncing so quick between Sabin, Aries, Young and Magnus. It just didn't settle right with me. It all felt rushed and without a story. So yeah I'm glad to see they have established some top guys and the title wasn't changin hands as quick. But here is my issue...
So far I think I've noticed the Heavyweight title on the line like 3 different times on a regular Impact program. I've also noticed a few pretty crazy Main Events. Last night's was sort of a PPV caliber match. So I understand they don't air PPVs as much as WWE. So naturally they would have to up the Impact program and also offer a few Heavyweight title matches every so often. But I feel like they're doing over the top things every week. It doesn't really make for interesting television. It feels more like they're getting predictable.
I love TNA Impact. I hate that they are falling short. Is it just me or are they trying too hard? I don't mind if they have a solid non title match program. If they want to have a title match every week then why not bring back the TV championship? At least then they'd have a reason. I don't know. Maybe I'm being a little picky lol.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 22, 2016 13:22:50 GMT -5
I think they are doing fine.
I love Tuesday nights for wrestling. In Canada, we get from 8-9 TNA's Greatest Matches, 9-11 TNA Impact and 11-Midnight ROH weekly show. And I enjoy it all!
TNA right now reminds me of WCW Nitro in 2000. Where a lot of the guys you liked there are gone to WWE, but the guys they have left they are actually showcasing and doing stuff with. So I am alright with everything they do for the time being. They are an indy fed with a TV cable deal. They just need to remember that and worry about themselves and not what WWE is doing.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 22, 2016 18:49:29 GMT -5
More Eli Drake please.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jun 22, 2016 18:53:30 GMT -5
From what I can tell the product is the strongest it's been in quite some time. They don't have quite the same deep talent pool they had, say, a decade ago but the people they do have still seem committed to make a watchable product despite all the woes the company has gone through and continues to deal with. I give them kudos for that. As far as giving away PPV caliber matches on free tv goes I have to imagine that's because they only seem to run like 3 a year so to keep your television product interesting you have to give some of those matches away. Otherwise no one would watch the TV product and if no one is watching the Tv product there certainly won't be anyone around to order the PPV's.
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Post by East Coast on Jun 23, 2016 14:47:09 GMT -5
they have been putting on a lot of gimmick matches.
like it doesn't make sense to me that Slammiversary has a 4 way X-division match for the title....but then they do an Ultimate X match for the title on Impact like days later
or how Jeff vs Matt @ Slammiversay is just a falls count anywhere match, but then they give us a Cage match on Impact
seems backwards
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FUSamBaker
Main Eventer
Biggest crush on Sami Zayn.
Joined on: Sept 6, 2005 19:25:20 GMT -5
Posts: 3,107
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Post by FUSamBaker on Jun 23, 2016 18:03:12 GMT -5
I do agree with you all to a point (except the Eli Drake thing haha). But Easy Coast gets me. There are way too many gimmick matches on the regular program. They are trying way too hard to get a big reaction. I mean look at it this way, what if every Raw there was a steel cage match or a ladder match. It would get old quick.
If you throw all of your major draw matches in a regular show them what do you have for the big shows? Just like East Coast said, why have an Ultimate X match on a PPV if you have one on Impact the next week? Or Matt vs Jeff steel cage? That was a decent PPV quality match. The "I Quit" was a PPV quality match. What motivation do the fans have to order a PPV if you can get the same level quality for free on tv?
I'm sticking with thinking that they are trying just a little hard. I think they could have just as good a show of they didn't press the gimmick matches. I mean if they keep going this route then what will they have to draw big for a PPV?
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Jul 2, 2016 11:30:25 GMT -5
I thnk TNA is in a very confused state. I've had the same name since joining the boards with no intention to change. I support the product, but I think where they stand and what network they are on that nobody will tune in UNLESS they provide these gimmick matches. So they have to get out of that mindset before everything fully turns around.
That being said, I don't think they are doing a poor job with the talent pool they have. But I do think maybe scale back a bit on the gimmick matches and use them when needed.
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Post by k5 on Jul 2, 2016 18:06:39 GMT -5
it may be too little too late, but they have gotten their act together in terms of their show to a degree. there's still clearly no real direction in the company when it would seem matt hardy gets to just write his own balogna...because if someone else IS writing their entire storyline and matt hardy in general, he needs to be fired and blacklisted.
the talent is there even if minimal. sometimes talent can pull through the odds, just as we'll see in wwe, and we'll get some quality wrestling but it quickly falls back to it's prior hiccups.
the wrestling world NEEDS an injection of creativity. that would help tna more than anything...renewed interest in wrestling generally.
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Post by Colter on Jul 2, 2016 20:32:11 GMT -5
The vibe I'm getting from TNA is that they know crap probably won't be around for much longer, so they're putting on as much crazy and wacky stuff as they can before they go under.
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Post by Gone. on Jul 2, 2016 22:06:05 GMT -5
Title bouncing? Sabin won it in 2013. Aries in 2012 (after the LONGEST REIGN IN TNA HISTORY) young won it in 2014.
I don't even.
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Post by IRS on Jul 3, 2016 0:19:07 GMT -5
Title bouncing? Sabin won it in 2013. Aries in 2012 (after the LONGEST REIGN IN TNA HISTORY) young won it in 2014. I don't even. Yeah, that kinda threw me. The X-Division title bounces around A LOT - especially lately, but the World Title hasn't switched hands that frequently at all in recent years. Setting that aside, I don't really think TNA is trying too hard. Maybe they roll out the stips a bit more frequently than they should, but, they only have 2 PPVs a year now... so, if you just waited for the PPVs to roll them out, it'd be kinda bland - which I'd say the godawful World Title Series proved last year. |
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Jul 3, 2016 12:58:54 GMT -5
It really is just an awful product. Most of the people that still try to say its great and they are producing great stuff weekly are clearly still wearing beer goggles. A "wrestling" program that comes on the TV Guide Channel. C-SPAN gets better ratings.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 4, 2016 16:06:44 GMT -5
It really is just an awful product. Most of the people that still try to say its great and they are producing great stuff weekly are clearly still wearing beer goggles. A "wrestling" program that comes on the TV Guide Channel. C-SPAN gets better ratings. WWE is just as bad with television right now. With WWE, they give you the same matches weekly and then at the PPV too and wonder why fans don't seem interested in watching the weekly show. Well why watch the weekly show when you know the same match is taking place at the monthly PPV?? Its like the WWE writers get an idea for a month and have said people fight each other constantly. With TNA, you at least get new matches each week and there is no monthly PPV to hype up. So each week is a big show to them. |
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Jul 4, 2016 19:14:03 GMT -5
It really is just an awful product. Most of the people that still try to say its great and they are producing great stuff weekly are clearly still wearing beer goggles. A "wrestling" program that comes on the TV Guide Channel. C-SPAN gets better ratings. WWE is just as bad with television right now. With WWE, they give you the same matches weekly and then at the PPV too and wonder why fans don't seem interested in watching the weekly show. Well why watch the weekly show when you know the same match is taking place at the monthly PPV?? Its like the WWE writers get an idea for a month and have said people fight each other constantly. With TNA, you at least get new matches each week and there is no monthly PPV to hype up. So each week is a big show to them. As far as a television program goes the WWE is nowhere near as bad. Not sure how anyone could come to that conclusion. More people are watching the same matches week in and week out with WWE while absolutely no one is watching TNA's "new" and "fresh" matches. Your casual wrestling fan would watch John Cena vs Seth Rollins every week as opposed to EC3 vs anyone or the Hardys vs anyone. Just facts. |
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Post by Lewscher on Jul 4, 2016 19:31:46 GMT -5
Honestly the fact they have the 6sides is still their major selling point for me. It makes every match more interesting in general.
Personally I got bored of the squared circle very quick after I discovered TNA when it started using it.
Gimmick matches ARE over used. But hey it's better than wwe diluting the same match every raw/smackdown in the same month. I mean sammi/Owens has gotten stale and I love them guys.
Wwe kills it's story lines with over exposure. However tna keeps things fresh (hardys aside) but at least they're doing EVERYTHING possible in the feud so as NOT to be stale with it.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 4, 2016 23:06:36 GMT -5
Honestly the fact they have the 6sides is still their major selling point for me. It makes every match more interesting in general. Personally I got bored of the squared circle very quick after I discovered TNA when it started using it. Gimmick matches ARE over used. But hey it's better than wwe diluting the same match every raw/smackdown in the same month. I mean sammi/Owens has gotten stale and I love them guys. Wwe kills it's story lines with over exposure. However tna keeps things fresh (hardys aside) but at least they're doing EVERYTHING possible in the feud so as NOT to be stale with it. I dont find Sammi/Owens stale AT ALL. Its the exact opposite. I am glad WWE has put the time and effort to build this feud. This feud DESERVES a HUGE blow off match. This is a feud that should have a stip match to end. |
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Post by Lewscher on Jul 5, 2016 5:47:52 GMT -5
Honestly the fact they have the 6sides is still their major selling point for me. It makes every match more interesting in general. Personally I got bored of the squared circle very quick after I discovered TNA when it started using it. Gimmick matches ARE over used. But hey it's better than wwe diluting the same match every raw/smackdown in the same month. I mean sammi/Owens has gotten stale and I love them guys. Wwe kills it's story lines with over exposure. However tna keeps things fresh (hardys aside) but at least they're doing EVERYTHING possible in the feud so as NOT to be stale with it. I dont find Sammi/Owens stale AT ALL. Its the exact opposite. I am glad WWE has put the time and effort to build this feud. This feud DESERVES a HUGE blow off match. This is a feud that should have a stip match to end. Whenever I see them it's the same hook up and punch up. Personally I have an immense distain for wee in general. Never have a good idea of their own they just rehash what's been done in other organisations. And what's pissing me off most is this 'new era's is doing EXACTLY THAT!! all over again from the attitude era. Except this time we've gone from 94-99 and now we're the 09-16 sort of deal. Wwe didn't produce their own stars, so they've gone to the Indies and Japan instead of wcw/ecw. They have their set rule book of wrestling and never expand on match concepts. Never a REAL twist to the stipulatuons. So watching roh 2.0 is balls to me. No magic anymore. Personal opinion but hope I made some valid view points. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 5, 2016 14:50:11 GMT -5
I dont find Sammi/Owens stale AT ALL. Its the exact opposite. I am glad WWE has put the time and effort to build this feud. This feud DESERVES a HUGE blow off match. This is a feud that should have a stip match to end. Whenever I see them it's the same hook up and punch up. Personally I have an immense distain for wee in general. Never have a good idea of their own they just rehash what's been done in other organisations. And what's pissing me off most is this 'new era's is doing EXACTLY THAT!! all over again from the attitude era. Except this time we've gone from 94-99 and now we're the 09-16 sort of deal. Wwe didn't produce their own stars, so they've gone to the Indies and Japan instead of wcw/ecw. They have their set rule book of wrestling and never expand on match concepts. Never a REAL twist to the stipulatuons. So watching roh 2.0 is balls to me. No magic anymore. Personal opinion but hope I made some valid view points. I can respect your opinion on your own personal taste. You arent the indy smart mark. No sweat. Heres why I like it...Their matches are always solid and they are telling a great story. While there hasnt been anything super special or stipulation matches, etc....they continue to tell this amazing story between 2 guys who were like brothers fighting their way to WWE. One brother made it there before the other and had success. The other brother was forced to wait and resented that fact. So when he got there he wanted the spotlight and wouldnt let friendship deny him that. |
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