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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 15:04:40 GMT -5
The Isle of Man weren't allowed to vote, but I would've gone Remain. I think there are several possibilities now that we're out: -A second referendum (not likely) -Scotland gets Independence -Ireland reunifies A second referendum won't happen. It's only whining sore loser remainers who want that because they didn't get the result that they wanted. But I think the pro EU MPs will do their best to sabotage exit plans as many things will require more voting within parliament. The second two points are quite likely though. But it will be amusing if Scotland leaves us and enters the EU alone, then a few years down the line once the EU has destabilised further and other countries leave it, and England/Wales are actually doing rather well, then Scotland will be like "We made a mistake. Can we come back?" English arrogance at it's best there. Jeez, I wonder why Scotland would want to leave!?
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Post by Chris Hammers on Jun 25, 2016 15:04:43 GMT -5
You must be a student. Ambitious and low on talent...the worse possible combination. I voted leave and I can assure you I am not a "xenophobic mouth breather" as you so ignorantly put it. As an American is always blows my mind that people who want border and immigration enforced are referred to as "Xenophobic". Japan, North Korea, and China do not allow immigration and they get along just fine. From what I am gathering leaving is about prosperity, having your own sovereignty, and an identity and a boarder that is enforced. There is nothing wrong with that. In America, where I am located, The Obama administration is trying to bring in 200,000 refugees that can not be properly vetted. The CIA has come out and said it. What gets me is, they couldn't save four people in Bengazhi but they can save 200,000 people? Yeah, right.... We have things like the dream act here, money that goes towards the education of illegals when that money could be better suited for our own children to ensure they do not get left behind. People that contribute nothing in the least but take the most of us all. We had a deadlock in the SC and I am glad.. because had they voted the way the liberals wanted it to go all those people would more or less gain legal status and reap even more benefits. They don't pay taxes, and even if they obtain legal status I assume they are exempt from taxes for a period of time. Meanwhile we pay taxes for illegals to get benefits that everyone else cant get. Who the hell wants to pay taxes for that? They are truly an albatross and parasitic when it comes to the benefits our country gives them with the money hardworking people pay into taxes. That being said we do have good hardworking people that come here legally and get benefits, like tax exemptions on businesses they open up, which I agree and understand. They are creating and providing jobs and they make the most money they can to run a successful business for a period of time before they start paying. Everyone complains about the allocation of money or not having enough of it but refuse to look at programs and use common sense in order to cut the senseless programs out and allocate that money to where it should be. Instead they would rather tax us more and make us pay more money weekly or bi-weekly. So, with that said, I understand the frusturation. I dont look at at as being xenophobic because my problem is with those people in regards to their skin color, creed, culture or religion. It has to do with them breaking laws, contributing to a problem that my Government has no intention of solving, just making it worse at the expense of tax payers just because they want to expand the party. That is all it has to do with... getting more voters. The reason Japan, North Korea, and China don't have a problem is because they're not multi-cultural countries. England is. There is absolutely an underlying xenephobic problem with older generations. Generally people over 35 tend to react to xenophobia bait like "Not being able to have a UK flag because it's offend people of other races" It's rampant on social media. It's a problem, because there have been generations of other races living in this country and the stigma of outsiders still hasn't gone away.
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Post by GBGav on Jun 25, 2016 15:05:51 GMT -5
I think the thing about racism and xenophobia has been blown out of proportion somewhat, I voted remain but I don't believe every leave voter is a racist, BUT... there are leave supporters who seemed to have this warped mentality that by voting leave, Marcos, the plumber living two doors down, would be bundled into a van first thing on Friday morning and sent back to Poland And there's always an old lady on the news saying "I haven't been able to get a doctor's appointment for three weeks so I'm voting to leave." Does she think that all of those people using her healthcare facility are going to be kicked out pronto? Nope. So she'll still have to wait three weeks to get that boil on her neck seen to regardless. English arrogance at it's best there. Jeez, I wonder why Scotland would want to leave!? I'm half Irish and feel closer to that than I do with my English half. But yeah, I do feel confident that the best decision has been made. With the vote being as divided as it was there will always be plenty of haters against the winning side.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 15:25:51 GMT -5
As an American is always blows my mind that people who want border and immigration enforced are referred to as "Xenophobic". Japan, North Korea, and China do not allow immigration and they get along just fine. From what I am gathering leaving is about prosperity, having your own sovereignty, and an identity and a boarder that is enforced. There is nothing wrong with that. In America, where I am located, The Obama administration is trying to bring in 200,000 refugees that can not be properly vetted. The CIA has come out and said it. What gets me is, they couldn't save four people in Bengazhi but they can save 200,000 people? Yeah, right.... We have things like the dream act here, money that goes towards the education of illegals when that money could be better suited for our own children to ensure they do not get left behind. People that contribute nothing in the least but take the most of us all. We had a deadlock in the SC and I am glad.. because had they voted the way the liberals wanted it to go all those people would more or less gain legal status and reap even more benefits. They don't pay taxes, and even if they obtain legal status I assume they are exempt from taxes for a period of time. Meanwhile we pay taxes for illegals to get benefits that everyone else cant get. Who the hell wants to pay taxes for that? They are truly an albatross and parasitic when it comes to the benefits our country gives them with the money hardworking people pay into taxes. That being said we do have good hardworking people that come here legally and get benefits, like tax exemptions on businesses they open up, which I agree and understand. They are creating and providing jobs and they make the most money they can to run a successful business for a period of time before they start paying. Everyone complains about the allocation of money or not having enough of it but refuse to look at programs and use common sense in order to cut the senseless programs out and allocate that money to where it should be. Instead they would rather tax us more and make us pay more money weekly or bi-weekly. So, with that said, I understand the frusturation. I dont look at at as being xenophobic because my problem is with those people in regards to their skin color, creed, culture or religion. It has to do with them breaking laws, contributing to a problem that my Government has no intention of solving, just making it worse at the expense of tax payers just because they want to expand the party. That is all it has to do with... getting more voters. The reason Japan, North Korea, and China don't have a problem is because they're not multi-cultural countries. England is. There is absolutely an underlying xenephobic problem with older generations. Generally people over 35 tend to react to xenophobia bait like "Not being able to have a UK flag because it's offend people of other races" It's rampant on social media. It's a problem, because there have been generations of other races living in this country and the stigma of outsiders still hasn't gone away. For some yes, but we have the same problem here with the liberals attacking the confederate flag.... its a flag who cares? We have bigger problems as a society that we need to come together and solve... more important than a piece of cloth that is for sure. I get your point, and I agree, there are some older heads that are racist, not all of them. I can only speak from my own perspective... Ive highlighted my aggravations and articulated them well enough to where it shouldn't be a question as to whether or not I am a racist.. clearly I am not. It is good for you guys though... boarders and immigration.. you cant just open it up and let whomever in... I may as well leave my door open at night if that is the case. I believe vigilance is best..for me personally. Plus, you guys wont have greece leeching off of you anymore.. you said no to this globalization that seems to be running rampant today..like I said... Greece will have to get their money elsewhere..its their problem..let them figure it out now. Sure, things will be rough for a few years for you guys.. but I think.. I hope with the right leadership everything will level out and everyone will see it was for the best.
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Post by Chris Hammers on Jun 25, 2016 17:07:55 GMT -5
The reason Japan, North Korea, and China don't have a problem is because they're not multi-cultural countries. England is. There is absolutely an underlying xenephobic problem with older generations. Generally people over 35 tend to react to xenophobia bait like "Not being able to have a UK flag because it's offend people of other races" It's rampant on social media. It's a problem, because there have been generations of other races living in this country and the stigma of outsiders still hasn't gone away. For some yes, but we have the same problem here with the liberals attacking the confederate flag.... its a flag who cares? We have bigger problems as a society that we need to come together and solve... more important than a piece of cloth that is for sure. I get your point, and I agree, there are some older heads that are racist, not all of them. I can only speak from my own perspective... Ive highlighted my aggravations and articulated them well enough to where it shouldn't be a question as to whether or not I am a racist.. clearly I am not. It is good for you guys though... boarders and immigration.. you cant just open it up and let whomever in... I may as well leave my door open at night if that is the case. I believe vigilance is best..for me personally. Plus, you guys wont have greece leeching off of you anymore.. you said no to this globalization that seems to be running rampant today..like I said... Greece will have to get their money elsewhere..its their problem..let them figure it out now. Sure, things will be rough for a few years for you guys.. but I think.. I hope with the right leadership everything will level out and everyone will see it was for the best. It's only people who cares? www.facebook.com/sarah.leblanc.718/media_set?set=a.10101369198638985&type=3
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 17:17:54 GMT -5
For some yes, but we have the same problem here with the liberals attacking the confederate flag.... its a flag who cares? We have bigger problems as a society that we need to come together and solve... more important than a piece of cloth that is for sure. I get your point, and I agree, there are some older heads that are racist, not all of them. I can only speak from my own perspective... Ive highlighted my aggravations and articulated them well enough to where it shouldn't be a question as to whether or not I am a racist.. clearly I am not. It is good for you guys though... boarders and immigration.. you cant just open it up and let whomever in... I may as well leave my door open at night if that is the case. I believe vigilance is best..for me personally. Plus, you guys wont have greece leeching off of you anymore.. you said no to this globalization that seems to be running rampant today..like I said... Greece will have to get their money elsewhere..its their problem..let them figure it out now. Sure, things will be rough for a few years for you guys.. but I think.. I hope with the right leadership everything will level out and everyone will see it was for the best. It's only people who cares? www.facebook.com/sarah.leblanc.718/media_set?set=a.10101369198638985&type=3That is ed up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 17:18:34 GMT -5
For some yes, but we have the same problem here with the liberals attacking the confederate flag.... its a flag who cares? We have bigger problems as a society that we need to come together and solve... more important than a piece of cloth that is for sure. I get your point, and I agree, there are some older heads that are racist, not all of them. I can only speak from my own perspective... Ive highlighted my aggravations and articulated them well enough to where it shouldn't be a question as to whether or not I am a racist.. clearly I am not. It is good for you guys though... boarders and immigration.. you cant just open it up and let whomever in... I may as well leave my door open at night if that is the case. I believe vigilance is best..for me personally. Plus, you guys wont have greece leeching off of you anymore.. you said no to this globalization that seems to be running rampant today..like I said... Greece will have to get their money elsewhere..its their problem..let them figure it out now. Sure, things will be rough for a few years for you guys.. but I think.. I hope with the right leadership everything will level out and everyone will see it was for the best. It's only people who cares? www.facebook.com/sarah.leblanc.718/media_set?set=a.10101369198638985&type=3which part are you responding to?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 17:22:23 GMT -5
That is ed up. The screenshots on the face book page? Yeah... it is.. especially if they are legal citizens.. I dont know how that process works in your country.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 17:32:18 GMT -5
That is ed up. The screenshots on the face book page? Yeah... it is.. especially if they are legal citizens.. I dont know how that process works in your country. It's frightening. And now there's talk of London going Independent. I didn't think that was possible, but Sadiq Khan is open to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 17:37:08 GMT -5
The screenshots on the face book page? Yeah... it is.. especially if they are legal citizens.. I dont know how that process works in your country. It's frightening. And now there's talk of London going Independent. I didn't think that was possible, but Sadiq Khan is open to it. He says a lot of stupid stuff.. look There are like 11 million illegals in the US alone.. Do I think they should round them up and deport them? Yes, I do.. they broke the law.. is it inhumane... no... you should see what happens in other countries if you enter illegally.
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Post by K.O.S.S. on Jun 26, 2016 2:27:53 GMT -5
I hope to god one day England has a massive natural disaster or war so all you trying to deny innocent people a chance of life can feel what its like. No one here has the capacity to truly understand what this Brexit will bring. So quit just spewing your pompous ideas just because you've done your "research".
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 26, 2016 2:48:22 GMT -5
Aaaaaaaand Brexit thread number three has come to a close.
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Post by Himmy! on Jun 26, 2016 20:37:28 GMT -5
Yeah, seriously no more of this please fellas. I was away for a few days so was difficult to keep up but I'm back now and will definitely be keeping an eye on things.
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