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Post by customania on Jul 5, 2016 13:22:36 GMT -5
It's a huge shame their fate and I think Vaudevillians will suffer the same fate unfortunately. Hopefully they are kind of repackaged with the same gimmick and actually become unstoppable after the brand split, they could (should be) definitely be the face of the tag division. I hope we get Elites soon, knowing Mattel they won't do them then they'll get released and the battle pack will be too high in price. The matatdores got Elites so Ascension need to have Elites, please Bill. I agree that the Ascension could be a top tag team. I think the problem with them (admittedly I groaned too once they debuted) is that once they came out with shoulder pads and face paint with a red and black theme, they were immediately LOD 2.0 They were awesome as they were in NXT, not sure who thought they needed to add to their gimmick before debuting but it was a bad idea imo. You're right, the gimmick wasn't needed as they were made to be LOD 2.0 but then they were made weak. I think the LOD gimmick could of even worked but WWE just didn't allow it too. I hate when WWE call people up from NXT and give them a small push before they start jobbing just like what happened to Breeze and what will happen to the Vaudevillians, Corbin and Crews. I knew Ascension were done for when Goldust beat Viktor at Survivor Series with just a power slam and then Konnor immediately got pinned aswell. They should be dominant, they have the look, ability and could make any gimmick work given the chance by WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 13:35:38 GMT -5
At the bottom there is a hogan and savage 2 pack. One guy said he saw an nwo jacket in a pick and suggested Hollywood. Maybe, the 2 pack could be Hollywood and nwo savage. But, we also just saw a basic nwo savage in some kinda kit. Maybe this will be another rsc elite two pack
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 13:39:37 GMT -5
At the bottom there is a hogan and savage 2 pack. One guy said he saw an nwo jacket in a pick and suggested Hollywood. Maybe, the 2 pack could be Hollywood and nwo savage. But, we also just saw a basic nwo savage in some kinda kit. Maybe this will be another rsc elite two pack If not this, than I feel like we could see these to in battle packs even if they're not nwo, and then we may see them as nwo as flashbacks, an exclusive, or both.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 13:40:14 GMT -5
At the bottom there is a hogan and savage 2 pack. One guy said he saw an nwo jacket in a pick and suggested Hollywood. Maybe, the 2 pack could be Hollywood and nwo savage. But, we also just saw a basic nwo savage in some kinda kit. Maybe this will be another rsc elite two pack If not this, than I feel like we could see these to in battle packs even if they're not nwo, and then we may see them as nwo as flashbacks, an exclusive, or both. I may be thinking to big though, I don't doubt it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 13:45:30 GMT -5
That DM cena though, maybe from cena vs hhh vs edge. Although I hope it's from 2012 extreme rules.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 13:47:11 GMT -5
If not this, than I feel like we could see these to in battle packs even if they're not nwo, and then we may see them as nwo as flashbacks, an exclusive, or both. I may be thinking to big though, I don't doubt it. Are you really having a conversation with yourself?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 13:50:12 GMT -5
I may be thinking to big though, I don't doubt it. Are you really having a conversation with yourself? Yep XD
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Post by Evil Abed on Jul 5, 2016 13:55:16 GMT -5
I agree that the Ascension could be a top tag team. I think the problem with them (admittedly I groaned too once they debuted) is that once they came out with shoulder pads and face paint with a red and black theme, they were immediately LOD 2.0 They were awesome as they were in NXT, not sure who thought they needed to add to their gimmick before debuting but it was a bad idea imo. You're right, the gimmick wasn't needed as they were made to be LOD 2.0 but then they were made weak. I think the LOD gimmick could of even worked but WWE just didn't allow it too. I hate when WWE call people up from NXT and give them a small push before they start jobbing just like what happened to Breeze and what will happen to the Vaudevillians, Corbin and Crews. I knew Ascension were done for when Goldust beat Viktor at Survivor Series with just a power slam and then Konnor immediately got pinned aswell. They should be dominant, they have the look, ability and could make any gimmick work given the chance by WWE. Personally I'm hoping with another bunch of NXT call ups pretty much imminent with the coming draft (i.e. Balor, Shinsuke, etc...) Im actually hoping some of these guys are sent back down to NXT (Breeze, Crews, Ryder etc...) NXT is going to need some star power and WWE is doing nothing with a bunch of talented guys. Might as well put them down there in the NXT Title main event scene instead of floundering on the main roster. Guys like Breeze, Crews, Ascension, Vaudevillians didn't stand a chance out of the gate and were dead in the water about a month after debuting. Even other guys like Neville and Corbin have been on and off again with their pushes. Really the only recent guys from NXT that are still thriving are Sami and Kevin. It'll be interesting to see though where they both end up when their feud is over.
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Post by kirk815 on Jul 5, 2016 14:30:14 GMT -5
At the bottom there is a hogan and savage 2 pack. One guy said he saw an nwo jacket in a pick and suggested Hollywood. Maybe, the 2 pack could be Hollywood and nwo savage. But, we also just saw a basic nwo savage in some kinda kit. Maybe this will be another rsc elite two pack If not this, than I feel like we could see these to in battle packs even if they're not nwo, and then we may see them as nwo as flashbacks, an exclusive, or both. The Hogan/Macho 2 pack isn't happening. Hogan isnt signed. I just left it and King Barrett at the bottom to show the figures that were cancelled or unannounced so far from the original list. Basically, Koko/Bossman are the only 2 elites that were changed so far, Hogan/Macho was cancelled from the Battle Pack lineup for obvious reasons, and Barrett is MIA so far from the basic series (unless I overlooked him from one of the lineups).
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customania
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Post by customania on Jul 5, 2016 17:20:45 GMT -5
You're right, the gimmick wasn't needed as they were made to be LOD 2.0 but then they were made weak. I think the LOD gimmick could of even worked but WWE just didn't allow it too. I hate when WWE call people up from NXT and give them a small push before they start jobbing just like what happened to Breeze and what will happen to the Vaudevillians, Corbin and Crews. I knew Ascension were done for when Goldust beat Viktor at Survivor Series with just a power slam and then Konnor immediately got pinned aswell. They should be dominant, they have the look, ability and could make any gimmick work given the chance by WWE. Personally I'm hoping with another bunch of NXT call ups pretty much imminent with the coming draft (i.e. Balor, Shinsuke, etc...) Im actually hoping some of these guys are sent back down to NXT (Breeze, Crews, Ryder etc...) NXT is going to need some star power and WWE is doing nothing with a bunch of talented guys. Might as well put them down there in the NXT Title main event scene instead of floundering on the main roster. Guys like Breeze, Crews, Ascension, Vaudevillians didn't stand a chance out of the gate and were dead in the water about a month after debuting. Even other guys like Neville and Corbin have been on and off again with their pushes. Really the only recent guys from NXT that are still thriving are Sami and Kevin. It'll be interesting to see though where they both end up when their feud is over. You're right, Neville and the others deserve so much more, Bo is another example of a guy dead in the water and so was Rose, Rusev is also on and off. Enzo and Cass seem to be thriving too but I feel Vince will split them up to give Cass a push.
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Post by The Outsider on Jul 5, 2016 18:16:31 GMT -5
hopefully koko, regal and dudley's MDT recently posted "No Koko in E44 it is true. I'm as disappointed as you as I wanted a Mattel Koko and Frankie" - the way he said it sounds as though there might be a rights/legal issue preventing them from releasing a Koko figure... I read an interview with Dave Meltzer regarding this and basically the deal is this, Mattel made the Frankie to go with Koko, but they forgot to get approval from Frankie's widow so they had to pull the whole damn deal!
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Post by The Outsider on Jul 5, 2016 18:19:00 GMT -5
I know something that isn't speculation We will bitch no matter what This comment has to be the single best statement I've read on these boards in quite some time. And that goes towards proving your point! Even when a near flawless figure comes out, somebody Lorenzo Alca..uh, whatever will wind up bitching about it. It's inevitable. Fixed it for ya!
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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 5, 2016 19:12:58 GMT -5
MDT recently posted "No Koko in E44 it is true. I'm as disappointed as you as I wanted a Mattel Koko and Frankie" - the way he said it sounds as though there might be a rights/legal issue preventing them from releasing a Koko figure... I read an interview with Dave Meltzer regarding this and basically the deal is this, Mattel made the Frankie to go with Koko, but they forgot to get approval from Frankie's widow so they had to pull the whole damn deal! ...couldn't/wouldn't they just release him without Frankie if that was the case though?
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Post by The Outsider on Jul 5, 2016 20:53:58 GMT -5
I read an interview with Dave Meltzer regarding this and basically the deal is this, Mattel made the Frankie to go with Koko, but they forgot to get approval from Frankie's widow so they had to pull the whole damn deal! ...couldn't/wouldn't they just release him without Frankie if that was the case though? It feels like maybe you didn't get my joke there.
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Post by Old School Collector on Jul 5, 2016 21:34:53 GMT -5
Koko ... DAMMIT !
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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 6, 2016 1:38:45 GMT -5
...couldn't/wouldn't they just release him without Frankie if that was the case though? It feels like maybe you didn't get my joke there. What can I say... I'm slow.
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Post by dannybosa on Jul 6, 2016 14:15:08 GMT -5
E45 i predict is going to be disappointing.
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Post by Gone. on Jul 6, 2016 14:17:03 GMT -5
I predict they'll use th Punk/Jericho/Bryan torso from Elite 1. 44 Waves later.
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Post by qdogg on Jul 6, 2016 16:01:51 GMT -5
So is this Elite Legends a one time thing or what? could mean less flashbacks if more are 2 come
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Post by wrestlingdelorean on Jul 6, 2016 22:52:02 GMT -5
I'm passing on the Dudleys basics hoping they're in E45. Elites have to be coming
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