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Post by Last Trent Barreta Fan on Jul 7, 2016 11:07:19 GMT -5
How is Undertaker still a draw? Not trolling, it's a serious question. I get he would be back in 2010 but the guy has wrestled less than 10 matches in the last 4 years, the guy is basically retired anyway, he only wrestles once a year.
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Post by J12 on Jul 7, 2016 11:10:07 GMT -5
How is Undertaker still a draw? Not trolling, it's a serious question. I get he would be back in 2010 but the guy has wrestled less than 10 matches in the last 4 years, the guy is basically retired anyway, he only wrestles once a year. He might sell a few extra Wrestlemania tickets, but that's about it. There are no real draws anymore, unless you count one-off Rock appearances. The brand is the draw. |
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 7, 2016 11:33:43 GMT -5
It could happen.
But they have to stop pissing off their fan base if they ever hope to garner more casual viewers.
They have literally turned 75% of their fanbase into "closet wrestling fans"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 11:41:59 GMT -5
I've been saying for years that as soon as the nostalgia acts like Undertaker, Triple H, Brock, Rock etc are gone, that business is going to take a huge hit.
The WWE has a bunch of athletes, but most are unable to connect with the mass audience in any meaningful way. I foresee a change in direction, with the company downsizing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 11:43:40 GMT -5
How is Undertaker still a draw? Not trolling, it's a serious question. I get he would be back in 2010 but the guy has wrestled less than 10 matches in the last 4 years, the guy is basically retired anyway, he only wrestles once a year. People pay to see him. That's what makes someone a draw. |
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Post by J-MANN on Jul 7, 2016 12:42:42 GMT -5
I've been saying for years that as soon as the nostalgia acts like Undertaker, Triple H, Brock, Rock etc are gone, that business is going to take a huge hit. The WWE has a bunch of athletes, but most are unable to connect with the mass audience in any meaningful way. I foresee a change in direction, with the company downsizing. How big of a downsize are you thinking? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 13:28:25 GMT -5
I've been saying for years that as soon as the nostalgia acts like Undertaker, Triple H, Brock, Rock etc are gone, that business is going to take a huge hit. The WWE has a bunch of athletes, but most are unable to connect with the mass audience in any meaningful way. I foresee a change in direction, with the company downsizing. How big of a downsize are you thinking? Smaller venues, at least for the unimportant shows (they may be able to maintain bigger crowds for Mania, Rumble etc) probably a smaller roster too. Not quite TNA or anything that bad. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 8, 2016 7:59:07 GMT -5
How is Undertaker still a draw? Not trolling, it's a serious question. I get he would be back in 2010 but the guy has wrestled less than 10 matches in the last 4 years, the guy is basically retired anyway, he only wrestles once a year. And as such, he hasn't been a victim of the 50/50 midcard mush that most of the other guys have. That's why he draws. |
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Post by DeadlyGame on Jul 8, 2016 12:07:41 GMT -5
They found ways around problems before, they'll do it again, but they also need to live in reality and not their own little world.
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Post by K5 on Jul 8, 2016 13:43:57 GMT -5
this is all my opinion mixed with things i've heard from shoots/interviews/etc from people within the wrestling business:
wrestling goes in and out of popularity. what has consistently sparked the popularity in wrestling is when it mimmicks or reflects what is going on within society accurately enough to make people (adults and children alike) associate strongly with it and become emotionally tied. with hulk hogan, he was the ultimate hero of america who could stand along superman and captain america. with stone cold, he was the ultimate badass who stuck it in the face of the system and beat up his boss.
in both cases, it was a mix of both creative engineering and organic growth of the wrestler - they were ALLOWED to explore their character enough themselves that they could put themselves fully into that person and make it real. scripted promos, over scripted scenarios, scripted to a t matches...it's damaged wrestling because it's taking the human level out of it. what's interesting is this DOES reflect an aspect of society - the current over rigid control of governments, corporations, 'those in power'...but people have had more than enough of that. hence the reason why stephanie is a terrible heel as is triple h in their current roles. it's monotony.
simply put; there is a massive issue with creative, there is a massive issue with over control of the wrestlers and product, and until these matters are dealt with and the wrestlers can hit a home run on their own free will, wrestling will stay as is or/and continue to diminish.
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Post by KrimV on Jul 8, 2016 17:40:53 GMT -5
The closest analog to that these days would be someone like Ambrose or Bryan (if he wasn't in forced retirement). Rebelling against the system has long been a popular theme, but it doesn't work when the guys propped up as the rebels ARE the system (John Cena and Roman Reigns). There are some storylines that WWE could really get a rise out of people with if they wanted to go edgy, but seeing as how they're so corporate these days they dare not do anything really edgy like they would've during the Attitude Era.
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Post by J-MANN on Jul 8, 2016 23:29:57 GMT -5
You think it would get to the point where wresting goes under as a hole?
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