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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 18, 2016 22:27:12 GMT -5
Yeah, must be why the mass fans are behind him every week... What else can they choose from? Roman? I'd choose Ambrose too between the two. Rollins should be on the mountain. With Styles next in line, followed by a KO run culminating with a blood feud blow off with Zayne. Ambrose = Rollins in my book. Both have strengths and weaknesses that even out when compared. AJ should be a top 2 star on whatever show he is on. KO I see as a better heel than Seth at the moment and is a future world champ. Zayne is a great performer but to me screams upper mid-card. He's lucky there will be a B-Show title or he'd never be a WWE World Champ. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 22:27:22 GMT -5
Does anyone have any idea why Shane was legit soaking with sweat out there? I mean Bryan had a jacket on and was bone dry, mick foley with 3 layers on bone dry, why was Shane looking like he'd just been on a 3 week bender lol
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Post by y13 on Jul 18, 2016 22:28:03 GMT -5
I was thinking instead of that dumb ending, they should of had Roman run in and attack both guys and have security run in and bring him down since he's still technically suspended. And not have the announcers acknowledge him. Kind of like the Matt Hardy/Edge thing. I guess it would be hard to bring him out of while still suspended, but I think that would have been pretty cool
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Post by cmiller79 on Jul 18, 2016 22:29:21 GMT -5
Ambrose is still champ!!!!
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Post by J12 on Jul 18, 2016 22:30:10 GMT -5
There's gonna be so much confusion tomorrow because everyone will think Rollins is the champ That's not the only thing to be confused about tomorrow night. Why is Raw first? Where do the Champions go? Are they doing the whole draft on the show or only part of it? Are the women being split? Are the tag teams being split? Does Smackdown get an exclusive division? Why does the triple threat match on Sunday matter (assuming they're splitting the titles)? Excited about the draft or not, WWE has done an inexcusably horrible job at explaining and promoting this draft. It makes them look foolish, and unprepared. I'm sure tomorrow will be a whole load of fun, but man, I hope people's expectations are in check when the dust settles and we're back on the grind. If not, I fear we're gonna see a crapstorm like never before. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 22:30:59 GMT -5
So urm.. was that meant to happen or did Steph just forget that when a draw occurs, the champ retains? what the hell are they doing? Stupid way to go off air, im not too bothered about the result, more so about the lack of clarity. I would almost guarantee it was done to show Stephanie's superiority. But it wasn't the actual result they wanted, so they quietly backtracked on the Network. Whenever in doubt about WWE's motivation for doing something, first question whether or not what they did somehow made a McMahon look powerful (typically Stephanie.) If the answer is "yes", you have your answer. Yeah that sounds pretty accurate, I can see that haha |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 18, 2016 22:37:39 GMT -5
How was anybody supposed to know to turn on WWE Network? End the show on a cliffhanger and resolve it with almost nobody watching....ok 2000 WCW.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jul 18, 2016 22:37:55 GMT -5
How does it go? Raw gets 2 picks smackdown gets 3? or something of that nature. i didn't see raw but if thats the case i see some tag teams staying together and new day.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 18, 2016 22:39:03 GMT -5
So Steph will now pick Seth first, claiming he's the real world champ and will win at Battleground. Shane picks Dean first, claiming he has the actual world champ. Dean retains on Sunday and bring the title to SD while Roman and Seth fight over the new Raw world title.
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Post by J12 on Jul 18, 2016 22:46:14 GMT -5
How does it go? Raw gets 2 picks smackdown gets 3? or something of that nature. i didn't see raw but if thats the case i see some tag teams staying together and new day. Raw gets 3 picks for Smackdown's every 2. Raw goes first. We don't know how they're handling the order beyond that. Tag teams are drafted together, unless the GMs, for some reason, want to split them up. The New Day and Social Outcasts are considered single units. The Wyatts and The Club are not (though Gallows and Anderson are a team.) There will be 6 NXT call ups. All of this was announced prior to tonight's show, so you may already know some of it. No other new information was provided, other than the announcement that Raw will have an exclusive Cruiserweight division. No idea how that will be furnished, because I assume many of the participants are currently competing in the CWC and are only in the early stages of being signed. Maybe Sin Cara and Kalisto will just fight each other for the next month or two. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 18, 2016 22:46:55 GMT -5
How do they know who to draft first if they won't know who the WWE Champion is until after Battleground? Will the tag team champions be in both brands or just one? Will we have two sets of tag team championships? Same question for the divas... WWE hasn't commented on the tag titles and women's title but rumors have tag teams and women on both shows, so likely two sets of tag titles and two women titles. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 18, 2016 22:48:56 GMT -5
How does it go? Raw gets 2 picks smackdown gets 3? or something of that nature. i didn't see raw but if thats the case i see some tag teams staying together and new day. Raw gets 3 picks for Smackdown's every 2. Raw goes first. We don't know how they're handling the order beyond that. Tag teams are drafted together, unless the GMs, for some reason, want to split them up. The New Day and Social Outcasts are considered single units. The Wyatts and The Club are not (though Gallows and Anderson are a team.) There will be 6 NXT call ups. All of this was announced prior to tonight's show, so you may already know some of it. No other new information was provided, other than the announcement that Raw will have an exclusive Cruiserweight division. Order has to go something like... Raw SD Raw SD Raw Raw SD And repeat to make any sense. Though this is the WWE so I wouldn't be surprised to see the first three picks go to Raw. |
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jul 18, 2016 22:51:12 GMT -5
How does it go? Raw gets 2 picks smackdown gets 3? or something of that nature. i didn't see raw but if thats the case i see some tag teams staying together and new day. Raw gets 3 picks for Smackdown's every 2. Raw goes first. We don't know how they're handling the order beyond that. Tag teams are drafted together, unless the GMs, for some reason, want to split them up. The New Day and Social Outcasts are considered single units. The Wyatts and The Club are not (though Gallows and Anderson are a team.) There will be 6 NXT call ups. All of this was announced prior to tonight's show, so you may already know some of it. No other new information was provided, other than the announcement that Raw will have an exclusive Cruiserweight division. No idea how that will be furnished, because I assume many of the participants are currently competing in the CWC and are only in the early stages of being signed. Maybe Sin Cara and Kalisto will just fight each other for the next month or two. Nah i missed raw and haven't been around much of the day today due to work. Thanks for the update. Who knows what the cruisers will be lol. |
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Post by PattyRickRick on Jul 18, 2016 22:56:07 GMT -5
I know I'm late to the party, but great RAW. I was there live and that pop for Bryan was awesome.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 19, 2016 0:00:04 GMT -5
Anyone else see a screwy finish with the WWE Title, giving them basically the reason to spawn a new world championship for Rollins, and giving each show a World Champion? Double pin finish? You guys totally called it. I'm baffled at them splitting the title prior to Battleground but spot on nonetheless. Two champions going into that match makes it largely pointless. What a mess. I know a ton goes into the show and there are lots of moving parts but how is your ending this convoluted... |
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Post by The Dazzler on Jul 19, 2016 0:35:17 GMT -5
Where can you rewatch the network exclusive ending? Can't seem to find it anywhere Click on whats showing right now and rewind, you'll find it. Thanks, this worked! |
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 19, 2016 0:36:14 GMT -5
I couldn't watch RAW tonight because I had to work late. But judging by the results I read and the videos I saw on YouTube, here are a few questions/points I want to make about what happened tonight:
1. Why in the world would Stephanie McMahon name Mick Foley the GM of RAW? I mean, I'm glad that Mick is going to be back on TV regularly, but it makes absolutely zero sense that she would choose him to run her brand. Shouldn't the heel Commissioner pick a heel GM and vice-versa? Just completely bizarre booking.
2. The "both men's shoulders were down" angle has been so, so, SO played out. This just seems like a cop out for when they inevitably bring back the World Heavyweight Title on SmackDown. The only question I have now is why they would run this angle tonight when there's still a title match taking place on Sunday. Wouldn't that have been the more appropriate time to run the angle?
3. This sort of goes along with my above point, but having this title match tonight was absolutely pointless. The only thing tonight proved is that there's no way Dean Ambrose walks out on Sunday as the WWE Champion. It's blatantly clear now that Ambrose is going to go to SmackDown to be the lesser champion - and let's be clear, the WWE absolutely still puts more value into the WWE Title on RAW than the World Title on SmackDown. So, with all that being said, they couldn't have given Dean Ambrose one single successful title defense?
4. Since when did Stephanie start loving Seth Rollins again? Didn't she tell him the night he came back that things had changed and they weren't on the same page anymore? Or are we supposed to forget that interaction happened since it took place more than a week ago?
Just a complete train wreck booking-wise. I don't know how they truly think the show they put together tonight would in any way make anybody excited for the brand split.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jul 19, 2016 1:18:14 GMT -5
I couldn't watch RAW tonight because I had to work late. But judging by the results I read and the videos I saw on YouTube, here are a few questions/points I want to make about what happened tonight: 1. Why in the world would Stephanie McMahon name Mick Foley the GM of RAW? I mean, I'm glad that Mick is going to be back on TV regularly, but it makes absolutely zero sense that she would choose him to run her brand. Shouldn't the heel Commissioner pick a heel GM and vice-versa? Just completely bizarre booking. 2. The "both men's shoulders were down" angle has been so, so, SO played out. This just seems like a cop out for when they inevitably bring back the World Heavyweight Title on SmackDown. The only question I have now is why they would run this angle tonight when there's still a title match taking place on Sunday. Wouldn't that have been the more appropriate time to run the angle? 3. This sort of goes along with my above point, but having this title match tonight was absolutely pointless. The only thing tonight proved is that there's no way Dean Ambrose walks out on Sunday as the WWE Champion. It's blatantly clear now that Ambrose is going to go to SmackDown to be the lesser champion - and let's be clear, the WWE absolutely still puts more value into the WWE Title on RAW than the World Title on SmackDown. So, with all that being said, they couldn't have given Dean Ambrose one single successful title defense? 4. Since when did Stephanie start loving Seth Rollins again? Didn't she tell him the night he came back that things had changed and they weren't on the same page anymore? Or are we supposed to forget that interaction happened since it took place more than a week ago? Just a complete train wreck booking-wise. I don't know how they truly think the show they put together tonight would in any way make anybody excited for the brand split. 1. They answered that with a promo between Mick and DBry. Mick is totally going to be a yes man for Steph. He's heel. 2. When's the last time they did a title match with both men being pinned at the same time? 3. Valid point. 4. Shane and Bryan were pro Ambrose so Steph and Mick had to be pro Rollins. It's not that complicated. |
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 19, 2016 1:33:03 GMT -5
I couldn't watch RAW tonight because I had to work late. But judging by the results I read and the videos I saw on YouTube, here are a few questions/points I want to make about what happened tonight: 1. Why in the world would Stephanie McMahon name Mick Foley the GM of RAW? I mean, I'm glad that Mick is going to be back on TV regularly, but it makes absolutely zero sense that she would choose him to run her brand. Shouldn't the heel Commissioner pick a heel GM and vice-versa? Just completely bizarre booking. 2. The "both men's shoulders were down" angle has been so, so, SO played out. This just seems like a cop out for when they inevitably bring back the World Heavyweight Title on SmackDown. The only question I have now is why they would run this angle tonight when there's still a title match taking place on Sunday. Wouldn't that have been the more appropriate time to run the angle? 3. This sort of goes along with my above point, but having this title match tonight was absolutely pointless. The only thing tonight proved is that there's no way Dean Ambrose walks out on Sunday as the WWE Champion. It's blatantly clear now that Ambrose is going to go to SmackDown to be the lesser champion - and let's be clear, the WWE absolutely still puts more value into the WWE Title on RAW than the World Title on SmackDown. So, with all that being said, they couldn't have given Dean Ambrose one single successful title defense? 4. Since when did Stephanie start loving Seth Rollins again? Didn't she tell him the night he came back that things had changed and they weren't on the same page anymore? Or are we supposed to forget that interaction happened since it took place more than a week ago? Just a complete train wreck booking-wise. I don't know how they truly think the show they put together tonight would in any way make anybody excited for the brand split. 1. They answered that with a promo between Mick and DBry. Mick is totally going to be a yes man for Steph. He's heel. 2. When's the last time they did a title match with both men being pinned at the same time? 3. Valid point. 4. Shane and Bryan were pro Ambrose so Steph and Mick had to be pro Rollins. It's not that complicated. Foley as a heel will never work. They've tried it before and it's failed; the fans don't want to boo him. Sort of odd why they wouldn't have just gone with a natural heel instead. They do the false finish every few years. I don't have a real problem with it, but it literally made having the title match tonight completely pointless. If it's just to set up bringing back the World Title like everyone is assuming, they really couldn't have come up with a more creative way to naturally bring the belt back instead? And No. 4 didn't really answer my question. Stephanie said she was done with Rollins a month ago, so what made her randomly change her mind and decide that he's her guy? Let's say Rollins won the title and got drafted to SmackDown tomorrow (he won't) - why would she be pulling for him to win when he isn't even on her brand yet? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 2:52:28 GMT -5
Definitely didn't Foley as GM, but pretty cool. I highly suspect it's only to promote his show on WWE Network, and he will be gone after that.
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