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Post by SodaGuy on Jul 26, 2016 2:38:07 GMT -5
He had his debut match on RAW and won. He had a second match on the same show and won. Yeah.. where would someone get the idea that he could be viewed as unbeatable?! You're just looking for reasons to argue with people, so I'm done. I'm actually just trying to have a discussion with someone who quoted something I said on a discussion forum. A discussion on a discussion forum. What a concept..
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Post by Edge618 on Jul 26, 2016 2:45:28 GMT -5
I just like riling people up and getting them thinking. The reasons people hate Reigns isnt about how he's booked, its about him as a person. People dont like the guy. If he was booked like Balor was tonight people would lose their minds. I couldn't give a crap less about Reigns as a person, I hate the superman booking. I hated it with Cena, and I hate it with Reigns. But do u hate it with Balor?
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 26, 2016 2:46:35 GMT -5
I was never the biggest fan of the Roman Reigns push but it's pretty damn hypocritical to pretend there is a difference here. Roman Reigns was on television for three years before being given a main event push towards the championship. Finn Balor has been on television for a cup of damn coffee and being pushed towards the championship. That seems to really fall under those "too fast" and "too soon" guidelines that people were tossing around about Roman Reigns. Everyone hated that Roman Reigns was viewed as "unbeatable" but Finn Balor won both of his matches tonight. How do you not view someone like that as unbeatable? Finn can obviously lose matches between now and SummerSlam when he faces Seth Rollins but until this happens.. he's just as "unbeatable" as Roman Reigns. He's come onto the main roster with two victories on his debut and is in RAW's main event of one of the four big pay-per-view events. That sounds like some of the same s*** people complained about Roman Reigns for. Roman was Vince's guy and Finn is Triple H's guy. It's the same thing. The only difference is that Finn hasn't been around long enough for him to be shoved down people's throat. Then again.. most people here would simply swallow and ask for another round. As I said before, to compare both situations is ridiculous. Roman Reigns has never once had any sort of natural positive fan reaction throughout the monster push that he was given, and then he screwed up that monster push by failing a drug test. Finn has had a huge fan base dating back to NXT and his days in Japan, so of course people are going to be excited for him. Can you say the same thing about Roman Reigns? The quality of matches that Finn was having on a regular basis in NXT far surpasses any of Roman's work. Why is it so ridiculous to do something outside the box and ride the hot hand by putting Bálor in the title match? Not everything needs to have a slow and methodical build that takes a year to culminate, because by then people's interest dies down.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 26, 2016 2:48:27 GMT -5
I couldn't give a crap less about Reigns as a person, I hate the superman booking. I hated it with Cena, and I hate it with Reigns. But do u hate it with Balor? You can't be serious, right? He's won two matches. In no way shape or form was he booked in the one night he's been on the active roster like Cena or Roman have been.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jul 26, 2016 2:55:18 GMT -5
I was never the biggest fan of the Roman Reigns push but it's pretty damn hypocritical to pretend there is a difference here. Roman Reigns was on television for three years before being given a main event push towards the championship. Finn Balor has been on television for a cup of damn coffee and being pushed towards the championship. That seems to really fall under those "too fast" and "too soon" guidelines that people were tossing around about Roman Reigns. Everyone hated that Roman Reigns was viewed as "unbeatable" but Finn Balor won both of his matches tonight. How do you not view someone like that as unbeatable? Finn can obviously lose matches between now and SummerSlam when he faces Seth Rollins but until this happens.. he's just as "unbeatable" as Roman Reigns. He's come onto the main roster with two victories on his debut and is in RAW's main event of one of the four big pay-per-view events. That sounds like some of the same s*** people complained about Roman Reigns for. Roman was Vince's guy and Finn is Triple H's guy. It's the same thing. The only difference is that Finn hasn't been around long enough for him to be shoved down people's throat. Then again.. most people here would simply swallow and ask for another round. As I said before, to compare both situations is ridiculous. Roman Reigns has never once had any sort of natural positive fan reaction throughout the monster push that he was given, and then he screwed up that monster push by failing a drug test. Finn has had a huge fan base dating back to NXT and his days in Japan, so of course people are going to be excited for him. Can you say the same thing about Roman Reigns? The quality of matches that Finn was having on a regular basis in NXT far surpasses any of Roman's work. Why is it so ridiculous to do something outside the box and ride the hot hand by putting Bálor in the title match? Not everything needs to have a slow and methodical build that takes a year to culminate, because by then people's interest dies down. I strongly disagree with this idea that Finn's work from NXT "far surpasses" any of Roman's work. Acting like Roman is some no talent hack and Finn Balor is the greatest wrestler of all time is what is really ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 3:03:19 GMT -5
I couldn't give a crap less about Reigns as a person, I hate the superman booking. I hated it with Cena, and I hate it with Reigns. But do u hate it with Balor? Balor didn't superman anything...so no...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 3:35:28 GMT -5
But do u hate it with Balor? Balor didn't superman anything...so no... Not yet... But it's starting to show signs..
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Post by The American Daydream on Jul 26, 2016 4:00:40 GMT -5
Roman Reigns and the Balor haters it was a great RAW and I hope it continues with phenomenal episodes just as strong as tonights.
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Post by weaseltv on Jul 26, 2016 4:10:09 GMT -5
I wouldn't read too much into it... WWE had to "establish" Balor right off the bat as a main event guy so this is how they did it... If he didn't win, he'd be at the top of the Cruiserweight division by next month... What I find more interesting is that I can definitely see him turning heel at one point with the Club... unlike some others.... who may never turn heel no matter how much fans ask for it..... *CoughCenaCough...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 5:06:17 GMT -5
God, Finn Balor is so cringy. SmackDown it is.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Jul 26, 2016 6:36:38 GMT -5
Roman lost clean three times already. Let's give the Roman hate a rest already, it's sickening. I thought his match with Balor was great, but dude Balor looks so small next to him. Can't wait to see what happens next week.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Jul 26, 2016 6:38:54 GMT -5
Lost better than any Raw stage they had post 2003. I really like the spiral thing on it. The ropes? They add flavor and remind me of the attitude era.
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Post by Infinite on Jul 26, 2016 7:00:47 GMT -5
Well crap I might have to start watching again. Who came up with the damn "universal title" though? sounds like a ing efed belt
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Jul 26, 2016 7:04:19 GMT -5
Can't wait for the "everything the IWC likes sucks" crowd to show.
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Post by tiny04 on Jul 26, 2016 7:05:53 GMT -5
Raw was ing glorious. Marked so much for Finn's win. Finn vs Seth will be amazing.
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Post by Sizzle on Jul 26, 2016 7:12:58 GMT -5
But do u hate it with Balor? Balor didn't superman anything...so no... Really?
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Jul 26, 2016 7:21:27 GMT -5
I was never the biggest fan of the Roman Reigns push but it's pretty damn hypocritical to pretend there is a difference here. Roman Reigns was on television for three years before being given a main event push towards the championship. Finn Balor has been on television for a cup of damn coffee and being pushed towards the championship. That seems to really fall under those "too fast" and "too soon" guidelines that people were tossing around about Roman Reigns. Everyone hated that Roman Reigns was viewed as "unbeatable" but Finn Balor won both of his matches tonight. How do you not view someone like that as unbeatable? Finn can obviously lose matches between now and SummerSlam when he faces Seth Rollins but until this happens.. he's just as "unbeatable" as Roman Reigns. He's come onto the main roster with two victories on his debut and is in RAW's main event of one of the four big pay-per-view events. That sounds like some of the same s*** people complained about Roman Reigns for. Roman was Vince's guy and Finn is Triple H's guy. It's the same thing. The only difference is that Finn hasn't been around long enough for him to be shoved down people's throat. Then again.. most people here would simply swallow and ask for another round. If either had won, they would have won both of their matches. And then you guys would be going back and forth about Reigns.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 26, 2016 7:25:37 GMT -5
An actual underdog overcoming the odds against Roman of all people and a bunch of people want to crap on it....... Now that time has passed, I still can't believe what happened last night. That entire thing was magical. I really didn't think they would do it. But they did and now I get to see Rollins/Balor live in Brooklyn. I cannot ing wait. I thought last year was good......this year Brooklyn will be AMAZING.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 7:39:58 GMT -5
An actual underdog overcoming the odds against Roman of all people and a bunch of people want to crap on it....... Now that time has passed, I still can't believe what happened last night. That entire thing was magical. I really didn't think they would do it. But they did and now I get to see Rollins/Balor live in Brooklyn. I cannot ing wait. I thought last year was good......this year Brooklyn will be AMAZING. But how is Finn Balor an underdog? We all knew he was gonna be a top guy as soon he was the first draft pick from NXT.He was NXT champion for like a year and on top of that he just defeated Owens,Cesaro,Rusev, and roman reigns himself in one night!.Guys like Owens,Sami and Cesaro who all IMO could've benefited more to this push especially Sami and Owens who just tore the house down last night should be fighting for the title at Summerslam.And why can't Seth take a backseat too he lost at MITB and he lost at battleground he shouldn't be hotshot to another title match when others could've been in the spot he is now.If Roman has to take a back seat then Seth should too I'm sorry.
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Post by DC:UK on Jul 26, 2016 7:40:43 GMT -5
Best Raw I've seen for a long time and I've been watching consistently since 1999.
Very glad Balor won, very glad Sasha won. Can't wait to see what Smackdown does in response.
With all sorts of things from my youth coming back into mainstream popularity, Pokemon, Blink 182 etc, I hope WWE gets a bit of a boom as well as it is a very exciting time to be watching.
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