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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 28, 2016 12:17:06 GMT -5
The biker gimmick was a much needed change and I enjoyed it. Taker was in the WWF for 9.5 years at that point and needed something drastically new. It kept him fresh and led to a great "deadman" return at WM20.
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Post by K5 on Aug 28, 2016 18:24:56 GMT -5
i was a fan of it because it had evolved nicely. if i wanted to see deadman undertaker, i had more than enough exposure to him through all the tapes i'd buy or rent, and we all knew he would return to the deadman again.
the only time i wasn't into taker is when it was taker and kane feuding with triple he and stone cold. just found that whole feud to be messy. i know many would probably disagree considering the star caliber involved in them.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 29, 2016 6:24:43 GMT -5
By far the best period of his full-time career, character-wise. Was much more believable and interesting than the "die die die, I'm going to eat your soul" nonsense he did for the first ten years in the WWF. The grizzled vet stuff bounced so well off the goofier characters of the time like Angle, Rock, Edge and Christian, Matt Hardy V1. Made for great TV opposite McMahon too. I remember being so pleasantly surprised by Taker vs HHH at WM17. Phenomenal match. I loved the heel turn too, the stuff with Maven was gold.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 14:36:11 GMT -5
G.O.A.T.
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Post by The Brain on Aug 29, 2016 16:52:45 GMT -5
I was never a fan of ABA Undertaker. My favorite is his 90-94 look.
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Post by PJ on Aug 30, 2016 6:21:34 GMT -5
By far the best period of his full-time career, character-wise. Was much more believable and interesting than the "die die die, I'm going to eat your soul" nonsense he did for the first ten years in the WWF. The grizzled vet stuff bounced so well off the goofier characters of the time like Angle, Rock, Edge and Christian, Matt Hardy V1. Made for great TV opposite McMahon too. I remember being so pleasantly surprised by Taker vs HHH at WM17. Phenomenal match. I loved the heel turn too, the stuff with Maven was gold. Normally I agree with you, but I hated the ABA gimmick. Although the WM17 match was awesome. But my favorite version was his debut Undertaker until he went to the purple look. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 30, 2016 10:36:18 GMT -5
What I hated about ABA Taker was that it ruined the aura of his character. He was a mysterious person who everyone feared for 10 years but suddenly he's a normal guy who's married and drives around in a motorcycle.
It made his whole deadman gimmick look like roleplay.
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Post by T R W on Aug 30, 2016 10:43:16 GMT -5
I never liked the Deadman character, but appreciated his in ring work. So the ABA and Big Evil were MAJOR breaths of fresh air to me, and the only times I truly enjoyed the Undertaker as a character.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 12:33:09 GMT -5
I thought the gimmick would have been much better had he incorporated more of the Deadman stuff. Like a "demon biker" kind of vibe with the flowing leather jacket, etc. When he just went to being the ABA he just sounded like a redneck to me and it was a very jarring change. I wasn't a fan of the first ABA phase Something like the Ghost Ryder but with flesh? That's exactly what he was... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2016 9:31:39 GMT -5
I think Undertaker's promos when he was the American bad ass were great.
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Post by poisonclan on Sept 11, 2016 13:03:58 GMT -5
I could be totally wrong about this, I'm just going by memory, but I feel like he started using this gimmick when Austin wasn't around that much??? Like maybe they needed a new top baby face?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 7:43:51 GMT -5
I could be totally wrong about this, I'm just going by memory, but I feel like he started using this gimmick when Austin wasn't around that much??? Like maybe they needed a new top baby face? Yeah pretty much. I think Austin went down in late 99 and Taker returned as the ABA in May of 2000 |
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Post by ricflair4ever on Sept 12, 2016 8:24:46 GMT -5
Personally, i didn't think the Lord of Darkness gimmick had the same kind of legs as the original Deadman gimmick. That one was evolving by 98 to feature early signs of the ABA era to come. Then they went the Lord of Darkness direction, which was fresh at first, but seemed stale by July of 99 IMO. So when he came back as ABA, i saw that as the natural extension of where they were headed, at points, in 97/98. It also served to have a better shelf life ,in my view , than Ministry Taker would have and gave him a needed shot in the arm. It also made perfect sense to me when he dropped the gimmick and created the hybrid of that and the Deadman, by turning into the outlaw type character he is today. For a gimmick that was so over the top theatrical, Taker found a way to evolve it beyond anything Vince even thought it would be. The ABA era was an important component of that.
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