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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 16, 2016 10:55:03 GMT -5
If you asked me what I enjoyed from 2010 I would only tell you 3 things. Bret Hart's return, Kane's title reign and Daniel Bryan's push. The rest stunk so badly it was unreal.
Now 2010 had a bad start. The company basically lost Shawn Michaels, HHH, Undertaker and Batista who were 4 of the biggest stars so that alone left a huge gap. Maybe I'm wrong but I believe a total of 22 wrestlers debut on the main roster and the only ones still active to this present day are Alberto Del Rio, Bray Wyatt, Darren Young, Curtis Axel, Konnor, Fandango, Heath Slater and Titus O'Neil. Only 2 of that list you could say are pretty huge and that's Del Rio and Wyatt but the rest are mid/lower card I don't know if Konnor, Ryback, Fandango and Bray Wyatt would count considering they were repackaged years later with different gimmicks.
So all these wrestlers debut in 2010 and it was as if no one knew what to do with them and worst of all none had gimmicks and most wore trunks which made them all like clones. First you had Nexus who were 7 generic guys who couldn't handle the one man army John Cena. Then Swagger won the world title which was basically an epic fail because no one cared. After that Alberto Del Rio arrived who was cool at the time with his fancy cars and personal ring announcer but a while he proved to be a no draw who couldn't get over with the crowd. Then to end the horrible year THE MIZ BECOMES CHAMPION. I'm not a Miz hater but I don't think he should've been anywhere near the title and his reign proved that. The general fans didn't take him seriously and he was one of the worst drawing champions ever.
The only person from 2010 who I would call a success story is Daniel Bryan. He was over with the crowd. had a great return at Summerslam and if his career wasn't cut short he would still be a top guy today.
I have watched from 1997 but in 2010 I almost called it a day because it was so bad. Did any of you feel the same?
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Post by DeadlyGame on Aug 16, 2016 10:59:58 GMT -5
2010 had its moments. I liked Swagger and Miz as champions but they booked Swagger as a joke.
What really got me upset was in 2011 when Hunter beat Punk for no reason.
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Post by ππ΅πβοΈ on Aug 16, 2016 11:04:03 GMT -5
2010β¦isnβt that when Mattel started making WWE figures??
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 16, 2016 11:11:01 GMT -5
2010β¦isnβt that when Mattel started making WWE figures?? Yes but this has got nothing to do with toys.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 16, 2016 11:12:06 GMT -5
2010 had its moments. I liked Swagger and Miz as champions but they booked Swagger as a joke. What really got me upset was in 2011 when Hunter beat Punk for no reason. I was a Swagger fan and supported him right through from ECW but how his World title run was booked was horrible.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Aug 16, 2016 13:10:15 GMT -5
If you asked me what I enjoyed from 2010 I would only tell you 3 things. Bret Hart's return, Kane's title reign and Daniel Bryan's push. The rest stunk so badly it was unreal. Now 2010 had a bad start. The company basically lost Shawn Michaels, HHH, Undertaker and Batista who were 4 of the biggest stars so that alone left a huge gap. Maybe I'm wrong but I believe a total of 22 wrestlers debut on the main roster and the only ones still active to this present day are Alberto Del Rio, Bray Wyatt, Darren Young, Curtis Axel, Konnor, Fandango, Heath Slater and Titus O'Neil. Only 2 of that list you could say are pretty huge and that's Del Rio and Wyatt but the rest are mid/lower card I don't know if Konnor, Ryback, Fandango and Bray Wyatt would count considering they were repackaged years later with different gimmicks. So all these wrestlers debut in 2010 and it was as if no one knew what to do with them and worst of all none had gimmicks and most wore trunks which made them all like clones. First you had Nexus who were 7 generic guys who couldn't handle the one man army John Cena. Then Swagger won the world title which was basically an epic fail because no one cared. After that Alberto Del Rio arrived who was cool at the time with his fancy cars and personal ring announcer but a while he proved to be a no draw who couldn't get over with the crowd. Then to end the horrible year THE MIZ BECOMES CHAMPION. I'm not a Miz hater but I don't think he should've been anywhere near the title and his reign proved that. The general fans didn't take him seriously and he was one of the worst drawing champions ever. The only person from 2010 who I would call a success story is Daniel Bryan. He was over with the crowd. had a great return at Summerslam and if his career wasn't cut short he would still be a top guy today. I have watched from 1997 but in 2010 I almost called it a day because it was so bad. Did any of you feel the same? Just be happy you didn't watch in 1995. I almost threw in the towel! It was THAT bad. This picture sums up WWF in 1995:
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Post by ricflair4ever on Aug 16, 2016 15:08:19 GMT -5
If you asked me what I enjoyed from 2010 I would only tell you 3 things. Bret Hart's return, Kane's title reign and Daniel Bryan's push. The rest stunk so badly it was unreal. Now 2010 had a bad start. The company basically lost Shawn Michaels, HHH, Undertaker and Batista who were 4 of the biggest stars so that alone left a huge gap. Maybe I'm wrong but I believe a total of 22 wrestlers debut on the main roster and the only ones still active to this present day are Alberto Del Rio, Bray Wyatt, Darren Young, Β Curtis Axel, Konnor, Fandango, Heath Slater and Titus O'Neil. Only 2 of that list you could say are pretty huge and that's Del Rio and Wyatt but the rest are mid/lower card I don't know if Konnor, Ryback, Fandango and Bray Wyatt would count considering they were repackaged years later with different gimmicks. So all these wrestlers debut in 2010 and it was as if no one knew what to do with them and worst of all none had gimmicks and most wore trunks which made them all like clones. First you had Nexus who were 7 generic guys who couldn't handle the one man army John Cena. Then Swagger won the world title which was basically an epic fail because no one cared. After that Alberto Del Rio arrived who was cool at the time with his fancy cars and personal ring announcer but a while he proved to be a no draw who couldn't get over with the crowd. Then to end the horrible year THE MIZ BECOMES CHAMPION. I'm not a Miz hater but I don't think he should've been anywhere near the title and his reign proved that. The general fans didn't take him seriously and he was one of the worst drawing champions ever. The only person from 2010 who I would call a success story is Daniel Bryan. He was over with the crowd. had a great return at Summerslam and if his career wasn't cut short he would still be a top guy today. I have watched from 1997 but in 2010 I almost called it a day because it was so bad. Did any of you feel the same? Just be happy you didn't watch in 1995.Β I almost threw in the towel!Β It was THAT bad. This picture sums up WWF in 1995: Lol....95 was the year i almost quit too. Anyway ,a fair bit of 2010 seemed......off......they were still in the infancy of the ultra strict uber clean PG era. But were trying to push it just a little with the initial Nexus deal and all. So 2010 was more of a growing pain type of year. 2009 however was more of a contender, with portions of 07, to be tied with 95's crap fest of a year. 09 started good but totally phoned it in ,in my eyes, post Mania 25 and never recovered. 2010 saw them start off mired in that same stuff, but attempted to move things forward with baby steps. That trend had pretty much continued and evolved dramatically from 2011 thru 2013.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 16, 2016 15:12:40 GMT -5
How can people hate 1995 so badly?? It wasn't that bad of a year. I thought 1993 was a lot worse than 1995 was. And if 1995 was so bad, it was probably BECAUSE of 1993. I believe fans started to die off that year, for guys like Hogan, Warrior, Piper, Flair, Bulldog, Tornado, Earthquake, Legion of Doom, Demolition, etc. were all gone.
The year 1995 was just the result of bad booking and building of new stars that 1993 should have given us. Lex Luger winning the WWE Title at SummerSlam 93 probably would have helped big time in making a main event star that could connect globally.
As for 2010, I don't really remember much of it. I am guessing Kofi Kingston vs. Dolph Ziggler happened a lot! It usually did for years there.
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Post by UltimateCollector78 on Aug 16, 2016 15:31:30 GMT -5
2011 was way worse, The ing Miz main eventing WM and heel Michael Cole almost made me quit watching for good.
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Post by ricflair4ever on Aug 16, 2016 18:47:32 GMT -5
How can people hate 1995 so badly?? It wasn't that bad of a year. I thought 1993 was a lot worse than 1995 was. And if 1995 was so bad, it was probably BECAUSE of 1993. I believe fans started to die off that year, for guys like Hogan, Warrior, Piper, Flair, Bulldog, Tornado, Earthquake, Legion of Doom, Demolition, etc. were all gone. The year 1995 was just the result of bad booking and building of new stars that 1993 should have given us. Lex Luger winning the WWE Title at SummerSlam 93 probably would have helped big time in making a main event star that could connect globally. As for 2010, I don't really remember much of it. I am guessing Kofi Kingston vs. Dolph Ziggler happened a lot! It usually did for years there. Fair question about 95. For me, i was totally on board with the thought of WWF continuing to push the New Generation guys. Nash, Hart, HBK, Taker, Razor were slid into the spots left by Hogan and company very well.....the problem was you had a collision course of style that continued through that summer ,AND, a lot of the roster depth fell off after those names mentioned plus a handful of others. But my point on the clashing of philosophies is that all that incredibly talented crew were shackled with incredibly mediocre storylines and an increasingly more goofy set of supporting characters. It just seemed like there was no direction for anyone until right after Summer Slam when things got more traction. Over at WCW they had alienated the hell outta me with the constant burial of Flair, botching the Hogan/Vader fued, parading Hogans buddies (Beefcake,Duggan,Renegade etc) in place of established WCW names (Sting,Austin, Anderson etc) and removing the feel WCW once had for a WWF-Lite version. Their redemption came in the form of Nitro that September. So, in all fairness, 1995 DID have some solid stand out moments, stories, and mat work.....but IMO, it didn't start to fire until the fall of the year.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 18, 2016 10:46:56 GMT -5
How can people hate 1995 so badly?? It wasn't that bad of a year. I thought 1993 was a lot worse than 1995 was. And if 1995 was so bad, it was probably BECAUSE of 1993. I believe fans started to die off that year, for guys like Hogan, Warrior, Piper, Flair, Bulldog, Tornado, Earthquake, Legion of Doom, Demolition, etc. were all gone. The year 1995 was just the result of bad booking and building of new stars that 1993 should have given us. Lex Luger winning the WWE Title at SummerSlam 93 probably would have helped big time in making a main event star that could connect globally. As for 2010, I don't really remember much of it. I am guessing Kofi Kingston vs. Dolph Ziggler happened a lot! It usually did for years there. I didn't watch at the time but in 1995 you had Bret Hart, Diesel, Razor Ramon, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker, Yokozuna, Owen Hart etc so you had a pretty good roster.
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Post by Sizzle on Aug 18, 2016 10:48:58 GMT -5
I thought the Miz was an excellent main event heel.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 18, 2016 10:58:00 GMT -5
I thought the Miz was an excellent main event heel. He played the role very well I admit but he wasn't serious enough as a main eventer. Look at Mania 26. He was champion but was completely overshadowed by Cena and The Rock.
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Post by K5 on Aug 18, 2016 15:01:18 GMT -5
How can people hate 1995 so badly?? It wasn't that bad of a year. I thought 1993 was a lot worse than 1995 was. And if 1995 was so bad, it was probably BECAUSE of 1993. I believe fans started to die off that year, for guys like Hogan, Warrior, Piper, Flair, Bulldog, Tornado, Earthquake, Legion of Doom, Demolition, etc. were all gone. The year 1995 was just the result of bad booking and building of new stars that 1993 should have given us. Lex Luger winning the WWE Title at SummerSlam 93 probably would have helped big time in making a main event star that could connect globally. As for 2010, I don't really remember much of it. I am guessing Kofi Kingston vs. Dolph Ziggler happened a lot! It usually did for years there. couldn't agree more! wcw was in between big changes with bischoff coming in i believe in 94, ecw hadn't established itself on the map enough, smw was steady but dated, and the wwf was like an aged cartoon. that said, i actually did stop watching from like 2006 - 2011. between 30 minute opening raw segments with triple h, the new dx, miz, and john cena's stay at the top i just could not muster the energy to watch such a shite product.
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Post by Rob on Aug 18, 2016 20:50:03 GMT -5
The whole guest host thing was probably the worst time period in WWE history. I took a 10 month break during that that it was so bad.
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Post by LA Times on Aug 20, 2016 18:57:15 GMT -5
2010 sucked, but it wasnt the worst. My worst years of wrestling in order are
1) 2007 2) 2015 3) 1999 4) 2001 5) 2000 6) 2009
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 22, 2016 17:05:44 GMT -5
2006 and 2007 were far worse IMO.
Cena on top for so long was beyond nausiating. They tried making him the new Hogan in the modern era, and nobody wanted that. Punk proved you can have a long, successful reign without being booked like Hogan. Let's also not forget that Brittney Spears ex-husband was one of the few people who got any type of win over him during this time.
The "new" DX was one of the few things that made me embarrassed to be a wrestling fan (yes, I put it on Katie Vick level of stupid). We had two men in their 40s trying to act like teenagers while also trying to stay tame enough for a now-supposedly religious HBK. Beyond dumb.
Vince McMahon as ECW Champ needs no explanation. Same with Booby Lashley as ECW Champ.
Booker T was made to look like a joke as "King Bookah." He could have easily been WHC as good 'ol Booker T. Let's also not forget that his character was fed once again to HHH at SummerSlam 2007.
John Morrison was booked to beat Punk at three straight PPVs. THREE!!!!
The Great Khali was WHC.
Big Show as ECW Champ.
I could go on but won't. I've been watching wrestling since 1994. I watched religiously from 1994-2005. 2006/2007 made me stop watching full-time and I watched on and off during that time. It wasn't until around 2010 that I began watching full-time again.
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Post by mikey1974 on Aug 22, 2016 17:37:49 GMT -5
Honestly, from 2007 through mid 2011, it was crap. And the one really good, hot angle in 2010 - The Nexus - became nothing more than a vehicle to try and push Cena even more, which he certainly didn't need. The finish for SummerSlam that year was downright disgusting.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 23, 2016 11:34:39 GMT -5
2006 and 2007 were far worse IMO. Cena on top for so long was beyond nausiating. They tried making him the new Hogan in the modern era, and nobody wanted that. Punk proved you can have a long, successful reign without being booked like Hogan. Let's also not forget that Brittney Spears ex-husband was one of the few people who got any type of win over him during this time. The "new" DX was one of the few things that made me embarrassed to be a wrestling fan (yes, I put it on Katie Vick level of stupid). We had two men in their 40s trying to act like teenagers while also trying to stay tame enough for a now-supposedly religious HBK. Beyond dumb. Vince McMahon as ECW Champ needs no explanation. Same with Booby Lashley as ECW Champ. Booker T was made to look like a joke as "King Bookah." He could have easily been WHC as good 'ol Booker T. Let's also not forget that his character was fed once again to HHH at SummerSlam 2007. John Morrison was booked to beat Punk at three straight PPVs. THREE!!!! The Great Khali was WHC. Big Show as ECW Champ. I could go on but won't. I've been watching wrestling since 1994. I watched religiously from 1994-2005. 2006/2007 made me stop watching full-time and I watched on and off during that time. It wasn't until around 2010 that I began watching full-time again. I disagree. King Booker made him a main eventer and I loved Regal and Finlay as his Royal court. As Booker T he had been stuck in the mid card since 2001 so the change really elevated him.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 23, 2016 12:23:13 GMT -5
2006 and 2007 were far worse IMO. Cena on top for so long was beyond nausiating. They tried making him the new Hogan in the modern era, and nobody wanted that. Punk proved you can have a long, successful reign without being booked like Hogan. Let's also not forget that Brittney Spears ex-husband was one of the few people who got any type of win over him during this time. The "new" DX was one of the few things that made me embarrassed to be a wrestling fan (yes, I put it on Katie Vick level of stupid). We had two men in their 40s trying to act like teenagers while also trying to stay tame enough for a now-supposedly religious HBK. Beyond dumb. Vince McMahon as ECW Champ needs no explanation. Same with Booby Lashley as ECW Champ. Booker T was made to look like a joke as "King Bookah." He could have easily been WHC as good 'ol Booker T. Let's also not forget that his character was fed once again to HHH at SummerSlam 2007. John Morrison was booked to beat Punk at three straight PPVs. THREE!!!! The Great Khali was WHC. Big Show as ECW Champ. I could go on but won't. I've been watching wrestling since 1994. I watched religiously from 1994-2005. 2006/2007 made me stop watching full-time and I watched on and off during that time. It wasn't until around 2010 that I began watching full-time again. I disagree. King Booker made him a main eventer and I loved Regal and Finlay as his Royal court. As Booker T he had been stuck in the mid card since 2001 so the change really elevated him. He was stuck in the midcard because "Booker T" was a WCW creation. He was on fire in early 2003 and a win over HHH at WM19 would have solidified him in the ME. Vince instead wanted to break the character down over years of misuse before giving him a pure WWE gimmick.
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