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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 21:33:07 GMT -5
Glad I don't have to worry about rereleases but if I did spend a lot of money on an old figure I would be annoyed if it was.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Sept 4, 2016 10:53:21 GMT -5
it takes up spots in lines But they haven't though. Boss Man- Network Spotlight Taker- DM King Booker- HOF Yokozuna- HOF Diesel- HOF Bam Bam- TNF Kamala, HBK, Jericho, Warrior, and Taker were given a completely separate release so as to NOT take up spots in the Elite line. Only Taker, Boss Man, and the Legends set were rereleases. Everything else you mentioned is new stuff
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 12:36:39 GMT -5
I have spent anywhere from $15-$50 on older legends figures. Am I going to get upset if they re-release them? No.
If you think you're going to get upset and poop your action figure panties, just don't bother.
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Post by TheLastDude on Sept 4, 2016 15:08:24 GMT -5
But they haven't though. Boss Man- Network Spotlight Taker- DM King Booker- HOF Yokozuna- HOF Diesel- HOF Bam Bam- TNF Kamala, HBK, Jericho, Warrior, and Taker were given a completely separate release so as to NOT take up spots in the Elite line. Only Taker, Boss Man, and the Legends set were rereleases. Everything else you mentioned is new stuff King Booker and Bam Bam are straight repaints. Yoko and Diesel are repaints with new heads Rereleases.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Sept 4, 2016 15:53:10 GMT -5
Only Taker, Boss Man, and the Legends set were rereleases. Everything else you mentioned is new stuff King Booker and Bam Bam are straight repaints. Yoko and Diesel are repaints with new heads Rereleases. Repaints are not rereleases. Under that definition every Cena & Orton is a rerelease
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 16:16:58 GMT -5
Its funny that some of you get so offended by this.
Doing rereleases is good for the line.
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Post by TheLastDude on Sept 4, 2016 17:02:40 GMT -5
King Booker and Bam Bam are straight repaints. Yoko and Diesel are repaints with new heads Rereleases. Repaints are not rereleases. Under that definition every Cena & Orton is a rerelease That's exactly the point. Now you're getting it! Bill wanted to get these specific Legend/Flashback back into the market due to demand. So they changed a few things on some while others were straight-up rereleases. Cena and Orton are evergreen figures. They sell well and are in demand, so there are slight changes made and the figures are put back into rotation. But they are still rereleases as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 17:14:36 GMT -5
MOTUC does this same thing, yet no one goes ape crap over it
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Sept 4, 2016 17:29:20 GMT -5
I honestly have to say I don't like rereleases. It sucks when you pay 30 or more for a figure you missed out on, only then for it to be released again. I however, don't mind if they just give us a repaint. At least something is changed and it keeps the figure fresh. Actually, if they release figures they should be improving them. I would of purchased the HBK fb rerelease if it brought kneepads, unfortunately they didn't so I passed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 17:36:56 GMT -5
I honestly have to say I don't like rereleases. It sucks when you pay 30 or more for a figure you missed out on, only then for it to be released again. I however, don't mind if they just give us a repaint. At least something is changed and it keeps the figure fresh. Actually, if they release figures they should be improving them. I would of purchased the HBK fb rerelease if it brought kneepads, unfortunately they didn't so I passed. But nobody is making you pay that much. This gives collectors that cant shell out ridiculous cash on toys, to still get what the want.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 17:51:14 GMT -5
I love the rereleases. Makes me happy I don't have to pay scalper prices.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 18:07:39 GMT -5
I love the rereleases. Makes me happy I don't have to pay scalper prices. Scalper prices, aka the market value
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Post by braaaaaaaapp on Sept 4, 2016 18:14:43 GMT -5
Not afraid of them I just hate them Pretty accurate haha
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Sept 4, 2016 18:17:28 GMT -5
Just remember, they're more afraid of you than you are of them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 18:31:57 GMT -5
For those of you that are against re-releases, I need you to please fully explain why.
I've listed a few reasons why I could think, but I do need a proper understanding.
A) You're a re-seller and it hurts your business? B) You have OCD and to know that there are two different MOC versions out there bothers you? C) You feel cheated and bamboozled because you spent $60 on a figure in the past only to see he's available for $20 now? D) You feel that they were able to fit a re-release in there, and instead it should have been an all new figure? E) You feel it devalues your collection, that as a collector you like knowing you have a figure worth 3x or 5x its retail value even though you don't plan on selling it. F) You feel repaints are OK, but not re-releases.
I can't think of a reason outside of those four that wouldn't be so petty. So if its one of those six, I have some responses.
A Response) Screw you.
B Response) So? You have the original, be happy, or if its so extreme then see a therapist.
C Response) If you would have bought L6 Warrior five years ago and then over the next few years said 'Oh, it will be re-released' it would have seemed so unlikely that it would be like you were trolling us and lying. No one outside of a select few at Mattel know what they are planning on doing. It was so random that these appeared and who they chose? Unreleased Legends 7 Magnum TA, slightly different E19 Shawn Michaels, Legends 2 Kamala, E23 Undertaker, slightly different E14 Big Boss Man, etc. Its so random that if they really wanted to they could have done E16 Nash & Diesel or Mail-Away Vince McMahon.
D Response) From a business standpoint it its economical for Mattel because they're mostly relegated to just a new package design as the parts are already made or tooled, where as a new figure would incur all sorts of new expensive tooling costs. Its not a total trade off.
E Response) This is the one that I feel hits close to home the most. If you're not a re-seller, then what do you care? Who is going to come into your house and be like "Woah, is that an original E16 MOC Kevin Nash?!" Its probably the same guy that's going to come into your house and say the same thing if it was worth half as much. These aren't IPO value stocks of Google or Microsoft that you can turn into millions. These are wrestling figures by Mattel.
F Response) If you would have told me MattyCollector Tully would have been re-released as a shelf clogging repaint, I would have given you a high-five and not have chased him down on the secondary market.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Sept 4, 2016 18:50:05 GMT -5
I honestly have to say I don't like rereleases. It sucks when you pay 30 or more for a figure you missed out on, only then for it to be released again. I however, don't mind if they just give us a repaint. At least something is changed and it keeps the figure fresh. Actually, if they release figures they should be improving them. I would of purchased the HBK fb rerelease if it brought kneepads, unfortunately they didn't so I passed. But nobody is making you pay that much. This gives collectors that cant shell out ridiculous cash on toys, to still get what the want. Scalpers are. If I want X figure and I know he/she is not a mainstream character, the possibilities of it being rereleased somewhere down the line are usually slim, so I have no option. It's either A get no figure or B pay scalper prices (my limit being $30).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 19:45:48 GMT -5
I love the rereleases. Makes me happy I don't have to pay scalper prices. Scalper prices, aka the market value Ha! Market value? You mean the price set by people who think they have gold in eBay? Oh yup that's what you meant. I'm shocked that no one has freaked out and said "now my investment is gone" maybe they did and I missed it. If you buy a figure with the intention of selling it for more than retail then you are a scalper to me. Don't like it? Don't care!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 19:48:28 GMT -5
Scalper prices, aka the market value Ha! Market value? You mean the price set by people who think they have gold in eBay? Oh yup that's what you meant. I'm shocked that no one has freaked out and said "now my investment is gone" maybe they did and I missed it. If you buy a figure with the intention of selling it for more than retail then you are a scalper to me. Don't like it? Don't care! Further more the most I have paid above retail is $10 bucks. All these greedy people hang on to the product so long that they drop their prices huge. Ever wonder why the sports memorabilia market is so up and down? Because creeps like you fling out the term "market value" like its a car and you just quoted the blue book and the educated consumer waits it out. You're welcome
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Post by druid360 on Sept 4, 2016 19:50:03 GMT -5
For a guy who misses out on great figures and the secondary market being ridiculous with it's prices, I 110% agree with this. Most of the people that are salty here because certain figures they collected could make them profit (scalpers specifically). As much as I hate Konami at the moment, when they handle the Yugioh Card Game, they always release reprints of awesome cards. In the end, their STILL making a crap-ton of profit.
TL;DR Re-releases might open up Mattel to trying new things (Grapple Gear anyone?). Also, if your salty your figures are losing value, it's a hobby, not a job.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 19:52:53 GMT -5
For a guy who misses out on great figures and the secondary market being ridiculous with it's prices, I 110% agree with this. Most of the people that are salty here because certain figures they collected could make them profit (scalpers specifically). As much as I hate Konami at the moment, when they handle the Yugioh Card Game, they always release reprints of awesome cards. In the end, their STILL making a crap-ton of profit. TL;DR Re-releases might open up Mattel to trying new things (Grapple Gear anyone?). Also, if your salty your figures are losing value, it's a hobby, not a job. Said way better than me. Couldn't agree more
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