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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 20, 2018 21:48:32 GMT -5
I was watching a video on MMA Worlds YouTube page. I didn't know Jon Jones said in an interview that he didnt like coke, but then admitted he used coke during USADAs arbitration. I guess money talks, eh? Yeah, USADA is not to be taken serious. I laughed when Daniel Cormier was like, "Hey USADA, don't come to my house at 6 am, cause what's the point?". It's funny how his eligibility date is a week before UFC 230. Yup.. all perfectly timed for UFC 230, which was in desperate need for a main-event - and just so happens to be in Jones' hometown. You couldn't make it up. Now me, I'm not outraged over the news cause i am a Jon Jones fan, have been since before all the drama started happening. I do understand the outrage of fans, and especially the fighters. Like how does Nick Diaz get 5 years for pot, which though i am not a fan of it, which doesn't give a person much of an advantage in a fight, but Jon Jones, a repeat offender, gets 18 months, admitted to doing cocaine during all this, and is able to come back a week before UFC 230? The UFC fighters should be like "F*** USADA" for this ruling, cause it shows that they'll bend the rules if you make UFC money, but everyone else F*** you. Thats how i feel about this ruling. |
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Sept 21, 2018 17:21:19 GMT -5
Yup.. all perfectly timed for UFC 230, which was in desperate need for a main-event - and just so happens to be in Jones' hometown. You couldn't make it up. Now me, I'm not outraged over the news cause i am a Jon Jones fan, have been since before all the drama started happening. I do understand the outrage of fans, and especially the fighters. Like how does Nick Diaz get 5 years for pot, which though i am not a fan of it, which doesn't give a person much of an advantage in a fight, but Jon Jones, a repeat offender, gets 18 months, admitted to doing cocaine during all this, and is able to come back a week before UFC 230? The UFC fighters should be like "F*** USADA" for this ruling, cause it shows that they'll bend the rules if you make UFC money, but everyone else F*** you. Thats how i feel about this ruling. Because for all the fans Diaz supposedly has, he couldn't sell out a high school gym. Jones can. Jones-cormier 3 is gonna sell. Big numbers. And honestly, I don't care if Jones brings a gun in the cage...If dc doesn't beat him definitively, he can't talk ever again. No excuses. You win or you shut your  ing mouth. Annnnnnnnnnnnnndddd still, the actual ing champion, jon....bones.....jonnnneeeeesss. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Sept 21, 2018 18:25:41 GMT -5
And honestly, I don't care if Jones brings a gun in the cage...If dc doesn't beat him definitively, he can't talk ever again. No excuses. You win or you shut your ing mouth. ...that's just crazy - Jones is the one who had to cheat to beat him last time out. I know you don't think PEDs make much of a difference - but they do. Look at the last fight Jones was clean for (OSP) - he looked very ordinary... couple that with the fact the Cormier rematch was very competitive before the finish and I truly believe DC would have won had Jones been clean. But regardless, after all Jones' poop, I think we're at the point where he needs DC far more than DC needs him... Jones is the one with the huge black mark against his career; whereas DC has become a 2 weight champion, beating arguably the greatest UFC HW ever. And now he's fighting Brock... both things Jones only ever talked about doing. I used to be a huge Jones fan, but where there's smoke, there's usually fire - and to pop twice for PEDs... the second time being the most important fight of your career? GTFO. If you can't fight or win without taking "something", then you shouldn't be fighting at all. |
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Sept 21, 2018 19:10:15 GMT -5
And honestly, I don't care if Jones brings a gun in the cage...If dc doesn't beat him definitively, he can't talk ever again. No excuses. You win or you shut your ing mouth. ...that's just crazy - Jones is the one who had to cheat to beat him last time out. I know you don't think PEDs make much of a difference - but they do. Look at the last fight Jones was clean for (OSP) - he looked very ordinary... couple that with the fact the Cormier rematch was very competitive before the finish and I truly believe DC would have won had Jones been clean. But regardless, after all Jones' poop, I think we're at the point where he needs DC far more than DC needs him... Jones is the one with the huge black mark against his career; whereas DC has become a 2 weight champion, beating arguably the greatest UFC HW ever. And now he's fighting Brock... both things Jones only ever talked about doing. I used to be a huge Jones fan, but where there's smoke, there's usually fire - and to pop twice for PEDs... the second time being the most important fight of your career? GTFO. If you can't fight or win without taking "something", then you shouldn't be fighting at all. He beat him easily the first time, no peds. Jon Jones goes down as the greatest of all time unless dc finishes him. In 100 years nobody will care about the asterisks beside anything. i admit Jones is an idiot, but he is also the superior mixed martial artist. Dc is fighting Brock because Brock can't beat him. It's a great career and money move. Can't knock him for that. But Brock may be a +1000 dog in that fight. Make no mistake Jones-dc 3 will happen at 1 weight or the other, unless dc retires first. And that won't be a good look for him either. He has to fight him. And he has to beat him. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Sept 21, 2018 23:42:21 GMT -5
He beat him easily the first time, no peds. Jon Jones goes down as the greatest of all time unless dc finishes him. In 100 years nobody will care about the asterisks beside anything. i admit Jones is an idiot, but he is also the superior mixed martial artist. Dc is fighting Brock because Brock can't beat him. It's a great career and money move. Can't knock him for that. But Brock may be a +1000 dog in that fight. Make no mistake Jones-dc 3 will happen at 1 weight or the other, unless dc retires first. And that won't be a good look for him either. He has to fight him. And he has to beat him. We'll have to disagree, my friend - I do believe they'll always be an asterisk next to Jones' name: he's a proven liar that's been caught using PEDs twice since USADA came into effect, which puts doubt over his whole career... who's to say he wasn't using something before USADA (July 2015)? As I said, the only fight we know for a fact he was clean for was the April 2016 fight against OSP - where he looked tentative/sluggish and pretty ordinary. We'll just have to see what Jones can do to redeem himself... if he can stay clean - and out of trouble - long enough. |
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Sept 22, 2018 11:15:54 GMT -5
He beat him easily the first time, no peds. Jon Jones goes down as the greatest of all time unless dc finishes him. In 100 years nobody will care about the asterisks beside anything. i admit Jones is an idiot, but he is also the superior mixed martial artist. Dc is fighting Brock because Brock can't beat him. It's a great career and money move. Can't knock him for that. But Brock may be a +1000 dog in that fight. Make no mistake Jones-dc 3 will happen at 1 weight or the other, unless dc retires first. And that won't be a good look for him either. He has to fight him. And he has to beat him. We'll have to disagree, my friend - I do believe they'll always be an asterisk next to Jones' name: he's a proven liar that's been caught using PEDs twice since USADA came into effect, which puts doubt over his whole career... who's to say he wasn't using something before USADA (July 2015)? As I said, the only fight we know for a fact he was clean for was the April 2016 fight against OSP - where he looked tentative/sluggish and pretty ordinary. We'll just have to see what Jones can do to redeem himself... if he can stay clean - and out of trouble - long enough. Disagreements is what keeps it fun. We can't all be on the same side. I'm still mad Jones and his stupidity robbed us of Jones vs rumble |
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Sept 23, 2018 20:30:24 GMT -5
Lackluster card last night. Weird ending to the main event. Can't think off the top of my head when I've seen a guy get elbowed nearly to death while attempting a takedown, to the point he couldn't walk to his corner.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 23, 2018 21:12:10 GMT -5
Lackluster card last night. Weird ending to the main event. Can't think off the top of my head when I've seen a guy get elbowed nearly to death while attempting a takedown, to the point he couldn't walk to his corner. I forgot the show was last night. I was interested in seeing Santos fight, and Nogueira vs Alvey. I saw the end of round 3 between Santos and Anders. That was bad with Anders being TKOed by the end of round 3. |
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 26, 2018 21:58:02 GMT -5
There's speculation that Nate Diaz vs Dustin Poirier for a new 165 lb belt. I say speculation cause Nate is the one saying it, while Dana is shooting it down
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Post by SteveHulk on Sept 27, 2018 0:59:14 GMT -5
There's speculation that Nate Diaz vs Dustin Poirier for a new 165 lb belt. I say speculation cause Nate is the one saying it, while Dana is shooting it down Yeah, lol. Personally, I don't really want any more weight classes added. |
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 27, 2018 1:10:21 GMT -5
There's speculation that Nate Diaz vs Dustin Poirier for a new 165 lb belt. I say speculation cause Nate is the one saying it, while Dana is shooting it down Yeah, lol. Personally, I don't really want any more weight classes added. Eh, i disagree. Id rather see more weight classes. I know last year the MMA commission (?) added 4 new weight classes, the 165 lb division being one of them. I feel the UFC should have a division every 10 lbs. More divisions to me equal more opportunities for fighters struggling in one division, or cant make weight in one division. Other than that, i feel there should be a 195 lb division. I feel 185 to 205 is too much of a difference to move up or down. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Sept 27, 2018 1:36:01 GMT -5
Yeah, lol. Personally, I don't really want any more weight classes added. Eh, i disagree. Id rather see more weight classes. I know last year the MMA commission (?) added 4 new weight classes, the 165 lb division being one of them. I feel the UFC should have a division every 10 lbs. More divisions to me equal more opportunities for fighters struggling in one division, or cant make weight in one division. Other than that, i feel there should be a 195 lb division. I feel 185 to 205 is too much of a difference to move up or down. I just feel that adding more weight divisions would dilute things even further... more weight divisions would mean MORE champions, MORE Interim champions, MORE problems… you’d probably get a lot more fighters either starving themselves to make a lower weight, or piling on the pounds to fight at a heavier weight, just so they can become multiple-weight champions. At the moment winning a title in 2 weight divisions is a REAL achievement and very special… with 3-4 added weight classes, a lot more fighters would be going up and down, winning titles at multiple weights and (to me) it would devalue the titles and make winning them at multiple weights less meaningful. Not to mention - from a fan (or Joe Public’s) perception, the sport would become a lot harder to follow and remember who is champion and at what weight... look at boxing: it started off with 8 weight-classes, now there are 17(!) and hardly anybody can name a champion from every division, let alone the top contenders/fighters. |
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Oct 3, 2018 15:58:16 GMT -5
Official predictions for Saturday night guys?
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Post by SteveHulk on Oct 3, 2018 22:34:04 GMT -5
Official predictions for Saturday night guys? (...can't wait for this!) Khabib's stand-up has looked pretty poor at times (notably against Michael Johnson) and I think that will be his undoing. I think Conor will be able to stuff the early take-downs and overwhelm him with strikes to score a fairly early KO/TKO win. I could be totally wrong though, lol. Ferguson over Pettis by decision in the co-main - unless Pettis can really turn the clock back. Even then, it's a big ask. |
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Oct 4, 2018 3:14:09 GMT -5
Official predictions for Saturday night guys? Khabib vs McGregor is difficult for me to predict, so I'll just say it could go either way. Neither one is a favorite to win for me. As for the rest of the card, I see Pettis upset win over Ferguson, OSP winning, Volkov with a surprise KO, and Michelle Waterson beating Felice |
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Oct 4, 2018 15:02:16 GMT -5
I'm gonna go with the actual champion, the linear champion...the notorious one. 2nd round KO. I have to agree khabib can't actually fight. His standup is weak at best. I thought Michael Johnson hurt him bad and let him off the hook. I thought Iaquinta sort of showed us some weaknesses.
That said Khabib is 26-0 and if he wins I won't be shocked at all. I often look at his opponents and am very underwhelmed at the level of competition he has faced, but these are grown men and you'd think 1 of 26 would catch him. If he wins it's round 3 or later by ground and pound tko or submission.
I'm going Showtime! I can't explain it, it's an awful pick, but I just feel it. He's looked good lately and I don't know if Ferguson is healthy enough for a top level striker yet.
I'll take OSP against better judgement. I don't think Reyes is ready. I think he's better, just not ready.
I fully expect Volkov to flatten Lewis. There is no better example of the state of the heavyweight division than Derrick Lewis being the top contender.
I'll be rooting Waterson, but picking Herrig. Waterson is just so small and I think it's hard for her to hang with the more physical fighters like Felice.
REALLY hoping Sergio Pettis wins. I fear he may be the next Jacare. Always a top contender but never getting the shot. He should have been before Cejudo, but Cejudo had the head to head win.
Either way I cannot wait for Saturday.
I'll start another topic, say khabib wins and Pettis wins, then nate beats Poirier. Who the hell is khabib fighting next?
Ferguson off a loss?
Poirier off a loss?
Alvarez off a loss?
Lee?
Barbosa has looked awful 2 in a row.
Gaethje lost 2 of 3.
Vick just got killed.
Chiesa sucks now.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Oct 4, 2018 17:07:49 GMT -5
I'm watching the press conference right now. Lmao at the S*** on bus chant
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Post by SteveHulk on Oct 4, 2018 22:28:34 GMT -5
There is no better example of the state of the heavyweight division than Derrick Lewis being the top contender. ...that is so true. |
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Oct 6, 2018 20:08:11 GMT -5
Prelims have been solid. 3 fights, 3 finishes.
I don't know who Jalin Turner is, but that boy might want to consider a 9 to 5 because he was out colder than ice.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Oct 6, 2018 20:27:16 GMT -5
I'm liking the prelims so far. Im hoping the main card stays great. There have been cases where the prelims were great, but the main card was lacking
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