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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 13:51:50 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 13:58:22 GMT -5
No, the story WWE told was way better than him being disfigured. It was all in his head and his face was fine the entire time was genius. I also think that was a very fitting way to end the "Big Red Machine" and transition him into the "Big Red Demon" However, I wouldn't mind seeing The Boogey man should up with some kind of prosthetic face mask around Halloween to scare some of the WWE staff backstage.
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Post by Sizzle on Sept 15, 2016 14:03:48 GMT -5
No, the story WWE told was way better than him being disfigured. It was all in his head and his face was fine the entire time was genius. I also think that was a very fitting way to end the "Big Red Machine" and transition him into the "Big Red Demon" However, I wouldn't mind seeing The Boogey man should up with some kind of prosthetic face mask around Halloween to scare some of the WWE staff backstage. Perfect explanation. The WWE told a better story with mental scars rather than physical ones. |
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Post by T R W on Sept 15, 2016 14:17:31 GMT -5
If you had any idea how much money and time it would take to put proper convincing and detailed makeup that wouldn't fall off on Kane every time he appeared you would know why.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 15:07:21 GMT -5
If you had any idea how much money and time it would take to put proper convincing and detailed makeup that wouldn't fall off on Kane every time he appeared you would know why. I can understand the mix up but I was speaking in terms of a realistic flesh piece or mask that he wears during his gimmick and takes off when he goes home. |
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Post by sitruC on Sept 15, 2016 20:07:06 GMT -5
Cause I'd imagine they'd have to do it for most of his body as well as his face and it'd take forever
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Post by The Brain on Sept 15, 2016 20:13:52 GMT -5
I liked how they handled the Kane unmasking storyline in 03. From ''burning'' JR and tombstoning Linda Mcmahon, I always tuned into Raw just to see what he was going to do next. It was a nice refreshing change to his character imo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 21:09:43 GMT -5
Cause I'd imagine they'd have to do it for most of his body as well as his face and it'd take forever But it was only his masked face and gloved hand which were damaged from the fire, and his glass eye. |
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Post by PJ on Sept 16, 2016 4:59:06 GMT -5
If they had to do that every day it would have gotten old real fast for Kane and the makeup team. He would have to sit in a chair for hours every day to apply it. And then at least an hour after to remove it. There's no way that would have been a good idea especially seeing they are constantly traveling from venue to venue on a daily basis.
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Post by sitruC on Sept 16, 2016 6:43:15 GMT -5
Cause I'd imagine they'd have to do it for most of his body as well as his face and it'd take forever But it was only his masked face and gloved hand which were damaged from the fire, and his glass eye. I know they said it was but realistically you'd expect him to have been burned on his body too or like all the way up his arm |
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Post by gawd6sic6™ on Sept 16, 2016 12:49:24 GMT -5
And to add to what has been said..... it would have been prosthetic pieces.... no matter how well glued down and pieced together, they would come off during a wrestling match. Hell i have had pieces falling off of me after 5 hours at a halloween party.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 13:41:42 GMT -5
If they had to do that every day it would have gotten old real fast for Kane and the makeup team. He would have to sit in a chair for hours every day to apply it. And then at least an hour after to remove it. There's no way that would have been a good idea especially seeing they are constantly traveling from venue to venue on a daily basis. It would be one well made flesh piece, not always applied by make-up artist, just one application he could take off and put back on. Plenty of old timers still where their gimmicks outside the ring at public appearances, Demolition for example...or Road Warrior Animal. |
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Post by PJ on Sept 16, 2016 14:10:09 GMT -5
But it would need to be glued on and then makeup wound have to be applied around the boarders to blend it in so it would look like part of his actual face and not a prosthetic glued to his face. That is just too much of a hastle to do every day for a 10-20 minute match or an interview segment especially with a match when his sweat would probably wash the makeup away anyway.
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Post by The Real Chillary on Sept 16, 2016 14:31:01 GMT -5
Yeah, you're really underestimating how long and tiring applying prosthetics is.
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Post by gawd6sic6™ on Sept 16, 2016 16:22:37 GMT -5
If they had to do that every day it would have gotten old real fast for Kane and the makeup team. He would have to sit in a chair for hours every day to apply it. And then at least an hour after to remove it. There's no way that would have been a good idea especially seeing they are constantly traveling from venue to venue on a daily basis. It would be one well made flesh piece, not always applied by make-up artist, just one application he could take off and put back on. Plenty of old timers still where their gimmicks outside the ring at public appearances, Demolition for example...or Road Warrior Animal. Applying facepaint is WAY different than special effects make up. Between gluing it down, fading the edges, then paint over it... it's time consuming . |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 16, 2016 19:19:26 GMT -5
Even though it was all inside Kane's head, they could have at least explained why Kane shaved half of his head constantly as we saw when he pulled off the mask.
I know it originally wasn't like that, because at SummerSlam 2000 his mask got pulled off and his long hair covered his face. But clearly the WWE writers in 2003 had an idea in some way that Kane was disfigured to do that hair cut and such. Even the way Jim Ross sounded when Kane took the mask off and turned around to choke slam RVD it was with the expression of disgust and shock at Kane's face.
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Post by Gone. on Sept 16, 2016 19:45:47 GMT -5
His point was ; he's retiring. Scar him up for a last run.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 19:49:13 GMT -5
Even though it was all inside Kane's head, they could have at least explained why Kane shaved half of his head constantly as we saw when he pulled off the mask. I know it originally wasn't like that, because at SummerSlam 2000 his mask got pulled off and his long hair covered his face. But clearly the WWE writers in 2003 had an idea in some way that Kane was disfigured to do that hair cut and such. Even the way Jim Ross sounded when Kane took the mask off and turned around to choke slam RVD it was with the expression of disgust and shock at Kane's face. BINGO! I forgot all about that ridiculous haircut and Jim Ross' selling the mutilated face, I remember being puzzled by Ross' reaction, the strange hair, and the black "burn" paint on his face. Also, why did Kane continue to have a glass eye gimmick if it was all in his mind, did he gouge his own eyeball out or was it lost from the fire? |
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Sept 17, 2016 23:20:28 GMT -5
Even though it was all inside Kane's head, they could have at least explained why Kane shaved half of his head constantly as we saw when he pulled off the mask. I know it originally wasn't like that, because at SummerSlam 2000 his mask got pulled off and his long hair covered his face. But clearly the WWE writers in 2003 had an idea in some way that Kane was disfigured to do that hair cut and such. Even the way Jim Ross sounded when Kane took the mask off and turned around to choke slam RVD it was with the expression of disgust and shock at Kane's face. BINGO! I forgot all about that ridiculous haircut and Jim Ross' selling the mutilated face, I remember being puzzled by Ross' reaction, the strange hair, and the black "burn" paint on his face. Also, why did Kane continue to have a glass eye gimmick if it was all in his mind, did he gouge his own eyeball out or was it lost from the fire? See No Evil was really a found footage film and the footage was from 1996. So he lost his eye then clearly... Seriously. See No Evil was real. You didn't know that? |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 18, 2016 8:30:29 GMT -5
If Kane was just appearing maskless once at WrestleMania or something, they could have done a big, time-consuming fancy prosthetic thing. But when Kane was making towns and putting asses in seats on a full-time basis, there was no way it'd work. He wasn't going to be sitting in the makeup chair for hours every day like Johnny Knoxville had to every day for Bad Grandpa. And then there's the thing where wrestlers aren't wearing a great deal of clothing to conceal prosthetics, and that's just a lot of time, hassle and expense four nights a week for very little gain. This was also during the Internet era so it would've just resulted in a million "lol nice fake head" comments anyway and done more harm than good. Especially when it fell apart during a wrestling match. Zero benefit to it.
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