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Post by kgchampion on Sept 19, 2016 15:23:05 GMT -5
I'm going to apologize for this rant up front. I really am trying to start a discussion. I promise.
I've been watching Attitude Era Raws lately. Does anyone else think it's weird that we have so few Attitude Era wrestlers from Mattel? We have Stone Cold. We only have Corporate Rock in basic form (twice), Still no 2-sleeved Kane. A '98 Undertaker in basic form only. '99-'00 Y2J in basic only. Nobody from the Ministry outside of Taker (and APA in their non-Ministry gimmicks). Rikishi, but no Too Cool. No one from the Corporation.
It's just weird. The WWF had it's highest ratings during that period and made the most money, right? But figures of that era are few and far between compared to the popularity. I get that Mattel doesn't yet have the rights to some of those guys. But some of them are still in the company (Mark Henry, Goldust). And why is there still no elite Corporate Rock? It's the Rock!
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Sept 19, 2016 15:33:09 GMT -5
Rocks DM, Legends, or upcoming elite could all be AE Rocks. The NOD, and RSE are too, but the torsos suck.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Sept 19, 2016 15:43:17 GMT -5
Mattel need to just go out and offer these guys contracts rather than waiting for WWE to offer them legends deals. I know Bill stated Mattel will no longer do that but if they want to make these elite figures go down in history as the best, they really need more of a roster of figures from years gone by.
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Post by PJ on Sept 19, 2016 15:43:56 GMT -5
Other than Jericho and the Acolytes I would pass on most of the ones you listed. Rikishi I did pass on and Too Cool has just as much of a chance of getting into my collection as Rikishi did be for them.
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Post by RSCTom on Sept 19, 2016 15:44:57 GMT -5
I want Elite Steve Blackman!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 15:50:05 GMT -5
I don't think it's weird. It was a forgettable time besides the obvious names and they've been done a few times.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 15:51:12 GMT -5
1. 1998 Undertaker (basic release made into an elite) 2. Ken Shamrock (any attire but red) 3. Nation Mark Henry (toss it in a Network Spotlight) 4. Gangrel (Brood) 5. Triple H (hHh attire) 6. Owen Hart (if they can ever get the family to agree)
These are the only six I want from the Attitude era.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 16:10:09 GMT -5
I want Elite Steve Blackman!! A basic Steve Blackman would be a elite Steve Blackman. That's how badass he is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 16:22:18 GMT -5
I want Elite Steve Blackman!! Blackman, Shamrock and Owen are really the only AE guys I really, REALLY need at this point. Though I'd take NOD and Sexual Chocolate versions of Mark Henry too.
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Post by TheLastDude on Sept 19, 2016 17:14:46 GMT -5
I think it's because the vast majority of the stars who are synonymous with the AE have either been made already or there are outstanding reasons why they can't be made.
Have already been made Stone Cold The Rock Mankind Triple H Undertaker Kane Big Show X-Pac Road Dogg Billy Gunn Jericho HBK Cactus Lawler Stephanie Paul Bearer Faarooq Bradshaw Edge Christian Vince JR
Can't/won't be made at this time Owen Gangrel Hardy Boyz Jarrett Al Snow Chyna
Who knows? Shamrock Test Val Venis D'lo Brown Hardcore Holly Droz Prince Albert Steve Blackman Headbangers Mideon Viscera Too Cool Tori Debra Ivory Jacqueline Terri Runnels Pat Patterson Gerald Brisco Michael Hayes Dude Love Shane
We've been told we're getting Corporate Boss Man at some point, so there's that. Now, I wouldn't be shocked to find out that Shane and Dude Love are going to be made at some point...but really...some of those names probably wouldn't sell nearly well enough to justify the figure. Are people waiting with baited breath for figures of Tori and Droz?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 17:17:08 GMT -5
Maybe wwe is telling Mattel no because the attitude era was anything but PG
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Post by ricflair4ever on Sept 19, 2016 17:42:03 GMT -5
Shamrock is probably the biggest standout (whos not off the table like Jarrett, Owen, or Raven) that hasn't been made yet IMO. And it would be a shame if he doesn't make it in. Maybe Al Snow could sneak in someday too. Now if we're talking 94-97 era pre Attitude guys, theres plenty left to do . But, sadly,many are off the table due to that lawsuit. That said ,many AE era tag teams such as Too Cool, Acolytes, Headbangers, and of course The Hardys would all be welcome additions still. And most of those are possible IMO. Scotty 2 Hotty is employed there now, the Headbangers appear to be on good terms, the Acolytes are certainly in the fold ,so i can see them making it in. And I'm sure there will be Hardy figures eventually.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Sept 19, 2016 17:49:32 GMT -5
I think it's because the vast majority of the stars who are synonymous with the AE have either been made already or there are outstanding reasons why they can't be made. Have already been madeStone Cold The Rock Mankind Triple H Undertaker Kane Big Show X-Pac Road Dogg Billy Gunn Jericho HBK Cactus Lawler Stephanie Paul Bearer Faarooq Bradshaw Edge Christian Vince JR Trish, Lita, Latino Heat, Bret, Bulldog, Pillman also from Attitude that's been made.
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Post by Mr Ezekiel Jackson If Ya Nasty on Sept 19, 2016 18:07:35 GMT -5
Mattel need to just go out and offer these guys contracts rather than waiting for WWE to offer them legends deals. I know Bill stated Mattel will no longer do that but if they want to make these elite figures go down in history as the best, they really need more of a roster of figures from years gone by. Mattel can't do what Jakks did because WWE made sure that any figure get made is approved by WWE and vice versa. WWE made sure to fix that loophole after the Jakks contract ended and before signing the new one with Mattel. Mattel isn't spending their own money to sign people like Scott Steiner. Nor risk losing their contract with WWE over that. The WWE license is quite profitable to them. Personally, I rather see more people from the Rock & Wrestling and NWA/early WCW era get represented. Attitude Era is cool and all but I would be more stoked for a Nikita Koloff than a Val Venis.
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Post by venomeratt on Sept 19, 2016 18:13:17 GMT -5
Attitude era was what sucked me in to wrestling when I was a kid. I enjoyed everyone from jobbers to maineventers. Id buy most any of them.
Val venis, Gilberg, Hollys, Blackman, Severn, Shamrock, Test, Ivory, Chyna, Miss Kitty, kaientai, Jeff Jarret, Gangrel, Sable, Sunny, Jaquelin, Al snow, Dude Love, Stvie Richards, Blue Meanie, Oddities, Headbangers, Stacey Kiebler, blah blah blah
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Post by kgchampion on Sept 19, 2016 18:25:25 GMT -5
At this point, I'd be happy with the Ministry and Corporation. Not a lot of Attitude Era matches to put on during play time.
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Post by JokerFC on Sept 19, 2016 18:31:45 GMT -5
I think it's because the vast majority of the stars who are synonymous with the AE have either been made already or there are outstanding reasons why they can't be made. Have already been madeStone Cold The Rock Mankind Triple H Undertaker Kane Big Show X-Pac Road Dogg Billy Gunn Jericho HBK Cactus Lawler Stephanie Paul Bearer Faarooq Bradshaw Edge Christian Vince JR Trish, Lita, Latino Heat, Bret, Bulldog, Pillman also from Attitude that's been made. Malenko too........his figure is WCW but he looked like that in WWF 2000 too. my want list from the AE looks like this........ Ken Shamrock LOD 2000 Taz The Patriot APA (playing cards ring gear) a Basic battlepack will do Too Cool Perry Saturn HHH from RR99 HHH from RR2000 HBK from IYH:DX I think that's it.......aside from WCW guys of the same time period
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Post by Sizzle on Sept 19, 2016 18:42:31 GMT -5
I don't think it's weird. It was a forgettable time besides the obvious names and they've been done a few times. Forgettable is the exact opposite word to describe the Attitude Era.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Sept 19, 2016 18:58:55 GMT -5
I don't think it's weird. It was a forgettable time besides the obvious names and they've been done a few times. someone suffering from Alzheimer's couldn't forget the Attitude Era. That was the pinnacle of wrestling for millions of people.
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Post by qdogg on Sept 19, 2016 19:05:05 GMT -5
shamrock,gangrel and sable need to happen
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