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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Sept 29, 2016 18:48:22 GMT -5
I look forward to the return of old part timers like Undertaker and Triple H especially when they're in the ring with the new generation.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 29, 2016 21:42:59 GMT -5
While I agree that the roster is stronger than perhaps...EVER. What we have is talented performers and yet none outside of Cena are actual icons to cross media. Not to mention you got talented guys being used like welcome mats...IE Cesaro. When Hogan/Austin/Rock were main-eventing WM, there were no "actual icons to cross media". I don't know why WWE doesn't ing get that WM is a wrestling show first and foremost. The biggest wrestling show of the year. The only people who are interested in the Network are wrestling fans. It is not worth sacrificing an entire generation of WWE's roster to allow 5 former established stars a spotlight once a year. That's a very narrow and unprofessional business decision. Time and time again, WWE proves to only care for the short term. the long term. the roster they give their all every moment of the year. the fans. Its about money...plain and simple.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Sept 29, 2016 21:55:20 GMT -5
When Hogan/Austin/Rock were main-eventing WM, there were no "actual icons to cross media". I don't know why WWE doesn't ing get that WM is a wrestling show first and foremost. The biggest wrestling show of the year. The only people who are interested in the Network are wrestling fans. It is not worth sacrificing an entire generation of WWE's roster to allow 5 former established stars a spotlight once a year. That's a very narrow and unprofessional business decision. Time and time again, WWE proves to only care for the short term. the long term. the roster they give their all every moment of the year. the fans. Its about money...plain and simple. This is a wrestling show, but more importantly it is sports entertainment. Wrestlemania is the biggest show of the year and all stops must be made to make the biggest profit. Why have Kevin Owens vs Seth Rollins main event wrestlemania when you can do it at clash of champions?
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 29, 2016 22:06:59 GMT -5
Its about money...plain and simple. This is a wrestling show, but more importantly it is sports entertainment. Wrestlemania is the biggest show of the year and all stops must be made to make the biggest profit. Why have Kevin Owens vs Seth Rollins main event wrestlemania when you can do it at clash of champions? Exactly...fair or unfair. The question is if its better served for WWE to lose the part timers. And the answer is no.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Sept 29, 2016 22:07:02 GMT -5
HHH recently renewed his contract as a wrestler for 3 more years, so we all know who will be main eventing Wrestlemania 33-35. Who? Cause the only reason Triple H was the champion at WM32 was due to all the injuries last year. Besides that, the last WM he main evented was Wm 25. So... Lol. Triple H was the champion for one reason and one reason only. They thought he of all people could help get Roman over. It didn't work....
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Post by BØRNS on Sept 29, 2016 22:48:15 GMT -5
Wrestlemania without part timers = literally every other show of the year. It would be easier to go without part timers if they didn't have a PPV every month and all these guys already facing each other on Raw. I can't think of one fresh matchup for Mania that would get me excited because I've more than likely already seen it (Multiple times) I went to Mania 31 with a big group of friends, 95% of them who haven't really watched since the attitude era. He reason they went...Sting, Triple H, Taker and Brock People will always make excuses like "oh I only went for so and so, or I only watch X for Y. I call huge bull5hit on that. That's a load of cr@p. They went to Mania because it's Mania and probably the only chance they'd get to see it close enough to them.
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Post by BØRNS on Sept 29, 2016 22:50:00 GMT -5
When Hogan/Austin/Rock were main-eventing WM, there were no "actual icons to cross media". I don't know why WWE doesn't ing get that WM is a wrestling show first and foremost. The biggest wrestling show of the year. The only people who are interested in the Network are wrestling fans. It is not worth sacrificing an entire generation of WWE's roster to allow 5 former established stars a spotlight once a year. That's a very narrow and unprofessional business decision. Time and time again, WWE proves to only care for the short term. the long term. the roster they give their all every moment of the year. the fans. Its about money...plain and simple. People don't subscribe to the network just for Mania to see part timers. Neither do people buy tickets for part timers. Now they might sell a 5hit ton of t-shirts, so you may be on to something...
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Sept 29, 2016 22:51:33 GMT -5
Wrestlemania without part timers = literally every other show of the year. It would be easier to go without part timers if they didn't have a PPV every month and all these guys already facing each other on Raw. I can't think of one fresh matchup for Mania that would get me excited because I've more than likely already seen it (Multiple times) I went to Mania 31 with a big group of friends, 95% of them who haven't really watched since the attitude era. He reason they went...Sting, Triple H, Taker and Brock People will always make excuses like "oh I only went for so and so, or I only watch X for Y. I call huge bull5hit on that. That's a load of cr@p. They went to Mania because it's Mania and probably the only chance they'd get to see it close enough to them. I legit only went to Wrestlemania 29 for one reason. CM Punk vs. The Undertaker. They're my two favorites of all time. The night Punk won the chance to face Taker I turned to my mother and said "Too late to buy Mania tickets" right after Punk won.
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Post by jacktunney on Sept 29, 2016 23:26:43 GMT -5
Wrestlemania without part timers = literally every other show of the year. It would be easier to go without part timers if they didn't have a PPV every month and all these guys already facing each other on Raw. I can't think of one fresh matchup for Mania that would get me excited because I've more than likely already seen it (Multiple times) I went to Mania 31 with a big group of friends, 95% of them who haven't really watched since the attitude era. He reason they went...Sting, Triple H, Taker and BrockOut of interest what was their reaction when DX and nWo came out? I literally screamed out loud because it caught me so off guard. The entire place myself and group included popped so hard haha. It was so cool to see all of them out there at one time. Such a great moment. That and the Curb Stomp > RKO were the highlight live imo
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Post by Rob on Sept 30, 2016 1:22:07 GMT -5
Wrestlemania is a spectacle now, Its evolved from a regular wrestling show. There are always going to be part timers and big names showing up. Thats just the way it is. That is what is going to sell out tickets, not 40 min work rate matches.
Lets also be honest here, You take away all the big names/part timers, What do you have left? The current roster is great in terms of wrestling ability but as far as drawing power, Its severely lacking.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 30, 2016 7:17:05 GMT -5
Who? Cause the only reason Triple H was the champion at WM32 was due to all the injuries last year. Besides that, the last WM he main evented was Wm 25. So... Lol. Triple H was the champion for one reason and one reason only. They thought he of all people could help get Roman over. It didn't work.... I do agree that they probably thought fans would boo Triple H more so than Roman. Which obviously wasn't the case. But "reports" were that with Rollins, Orton, & Cena all being hurt, Triple H vs Reigns was WWE trying to save WM & Roman's push, simultaneously. I don't think it was the original plan, but I could be wrong. Point remains the same, Triple H hasn't main evented very many Wrestlemania is the past few years, so IHMJ is talking out his ass.
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Post by bababooey on Sept 30, 2016 7:39:31 GMT -5
I feel like Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble, Summerslam, and Survivor Series are the perfect times for part timers. There's tons of history to those events, much of which those part timers made. It adds to the atmosphere and makes it seem more important.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Sept 30, 2016 9:18:18 GMT -5
I feel like Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble, Summerslam, and Survivor Series are the perfect times for part timers. There's tons of history to those events, much of which those part timers made. It adds to the atmosphere and makes it seem more important. This.Couldn't agree more. If not the rumble, survivor series, summer slam than definitely wrestlemania.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 30, 2016 22:26:15 GMT -5
Its about money...plain and simple. People don't subscribe to the network just for Mania to see part timers. Neither do people buy tickets for part timers. Now they might sell a 5hit ton of t-shirts, so you may be on to something... 100% agreed on the network. Tickets...definitely disagree. There are people that def. buy tix to see Rock, HHH, Brock...especially at Mania. Merchandising is HUGE profits. Money is money. Where you can get it...they will
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 17:58:50 GMT -5
Wwe hasn't really made any mega stars in the last 15 years, that's why they need part timers and legends for wrestlemania. What happens when these legends part timers can't go anymore? Wwe needs to think about the future!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 9:21:49 GMT -5
Thing is, those part timers help sell PPV buys to those half ass'ed wrestling fans. The ones that don't follow it religiously. When they see names they know, they order the show. But what WWE needs to be doing is using those part timers to put over the younger talent. Have Triple H lose to Rollins. Have Taker lose to Finn. Have Brock put over Ambrose or Reigns. Use the opportunity to showcase what they younger talent can do. Then maybe those half ass'ed fans will tune in more often to see these new guys that impressed them. Oh come on you can't blame the fans that stopped watching fulltime when in recent years when they have got behind
1.Cody Rhodes 2. Cesaro 3. Dolph Ziggler 4. CM Punk 5. Daniel Bryan 6. Zack Ryder 7. Dean Ambrose 8 Damien Sandow
Only to see it go nowhere.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Oct 6, 2016 9:44:24 GMT -5
Those guys you don't want to see are always one of the biggest appeals of WrestleMania for me every year. Those are the guys I grew up on and it'll be a sad day for this fan when they're no longer around.
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Post by marino13 on Oct 6, 2016 9:45:06 GMT -5
Thing is, those part timers help sell PPV buys to those half ass'ed wrestling fans. The ones that don't follow it religiously. When they see names they know, they order the show. But what WWE needs to be doing is using those part timers to put over the younger talent. Have Triple H lose to Rollins. Have Taker lose to Finn. Have Brock put over Ambrose or Reigns. Use the opportunity to showcase what they younger talent can do. Then maybe those half ass'ed fans will tune in more often to see these new guys that impressed them. Oh come on you can't blame the fans that stopped watching fulltime when in recent years when they have got behind
1.Cody Rhodes 2. Cesaro 3. Dolph Ziggler 4. CM Punk 5. Daniel Bryan 6. Zack Ryder 7. Dean Ambrose 8 Damien Sandow
Only to see it go nowhere.
Not what I was saying, but okay. I'm referring to those that stopped after the Monday Night Wars. I know plenty of fair weathered fans that don't know who any of those names you listed are. But they know who Taker, Triple H, Rock, Kane, Big Show, & even Mark Henry is. Those people see the names they know on the WM poster and they order the PPV.
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