powerfred3k
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Post by powerfred3k on Oct 21, 2016 12:28:08 GMT -5
I would love if Amazon with or without stores took over retail they seem to have there stuff together better than any of these retailers these days. It would in turn force others to adapt and get better.
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rtc1485
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Post by rtc1485 on Oct 21, 2016 12:34:35 GMT -5
I read all of this and remembering last year Mattel said it would be one of the better years at retail. When does this start?
Lol anyways the 2 WalMarts, tru, target, and surviving Kmart are even further behind then ones way out of the way for me. All that seems to be coming out relatively on time are the tnf sets, zombies, and dms. Everything else is sh*t lol.
My main WalMart is even stuck on 11 b60 cenas, one honky tonk, e39 mizdow and sid, e38 Bryan, and e32 Bryan. That's it. This one also rarely puts out shippers when they come in...seems they use them to stock instead sometimes. I've really hit a snag around b56/57. Another one I frequent even has some recent punk basics left.
Stores in my area seem to be heavy on the various exclusive sets (still waiting on Bayley to show, dms (my tru got cena already), and nothing else. Only saw leftovers of even e41 no more than twice anywhere
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Post by Torn Quad Trips on Oct 21, 2016 12:49:58 GMT -5
don't you guys think mattel owns some of this? i get distribution is a big issue. but another issue is the case pack and doesn't mattel decide that? maybe it's time for them to re-assess what their pack out strategy is because what they're doing now is ridiculous. in my area, e38 dbry is the most incredible peg-warmer i've seen in the decades i've been collecting toys. who decided to double pack him? especially when e32 dbry sold for crap? and wasn't sid double packed? why? same with e42 hhh, ryback, dean and umaga(who thought umaga needed to be in there twice and not zayn?!?!).
maybe they need need to move away from double packing certain figures and re-packing a figure that sold well from previous waves. and i'm talking about repacking honkey tonk or deisel or macho. someone that DID sell well and WOULD sell well again, not mark henry or show. just spit-balling, here.
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Post by JC Motors on Oct 21, 2016 14:21:49 GMT -5
Retail sucks this year
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Post by rustyjohnson on Oct 21, 2016 15:43:22 GMT -5
I cant get mad over toys. What makes me mad is being lied to. I've called stores in the past to ask about products. And the answer is usually, IDK or yes we have it, and then when you get there they dont have what you asked for. Places like RSC are a god send because they have what they advertise and it's easy to shop. Try buying figures on Target's website. They have a long list of figures on there, but non available for purchase online. It'll say available in store, what store though? Certainly no store near me. I didn't mean to make it look like I was directing that towards you, more piggy backing it with my thoughts. This is what I'm hoping to accomplish, Target's site sucks, right? Start bringing that to their attention. There really is no real reason why they can't have this bought up to them and have it pointed out. If the associate isn't of help, then try the store manager, if the store manager isn't good then go to the district manager, then regional, etc. There's so many people that can be contacted and talked to throughout all these stores. Unfortunately I can't agree with calling RSC a God send. But like I said, I've got a friend with a Mattel account and I do 99% of my ordering through them and I rarely, if ever, buy a figure in a store, unless its a store exclusive. I have no emotional investment in if stores get stocked properly or not, I'm just trying to help the people here complaining, but it seems like I really am wasting my time. lol yeah I love paying double th price for something i should easily be able to walk into tru or wm and find on the shelf. Total godsend. lol
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Post by marino13 on Oct 21, 2016 16:18:53 GMT -5
My local Walmart seems to have just gotten a weird case of female figures. The newest Natalya, Eva in green, Naomi in the neon checkers, Paige in black, and 2 of the Elite Lita. It was a crazy assortment to say the least.
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Post by 'Exotic' Adrian Street on Oct 21, 2016 16:27:59 GMT -5
My local Walmart seems to have just gotten a weird case of female figures. The newest Natalya, Eva in green, Naomi in the neon checkers, Paige in black, and 2 of the Elite Lita. It was a crazy assortment to say the least. Hey at least it's something different and not Best of 2012 or Global Superstars LOL
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Post by rustyjohnson on Oct 21, 2016 18:39:44 GMT -5
My local Walmart seems to have just gotten a weird case of female figures. The newest Natalya, Eva in green, Naomi in the neon checkers, Paige in black, and 2 of the Elite Lita. It was a crazy assortment to say the least. Hey at least it's something different and not Best of 2012 or Global Superstars LOL Agreed. I'd say that might be due to the superhero girls toys they've released possibly selling well...who knows. I need a Lita so I'd be cool with that batch popping up on my shelves lol
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Post by kgchampion on Oct 22, 2016 18:10:07 GMT -5
The most recent elite line I saw at my Target was E36. That was nearly 1 year ago. They haven't gotten a later elite series in since. They've gotten new battlepacks in every quarter. They've gotten the WM 32 series and the SummerSlam heritage. They've gotten in Zombies. There's been no new regular basic line in a year. HOF 3 ONCE. I've never seen Heenan Fam at any Target ever. All the Targets in Seattle are the same. I saw Umaga at a Target in the other town a month ago and nearly crapmyself. Every other Target was the same garbage. Every other store is better now. Even Big Lots had better gets (Natalya and her entire series and E41(?)). Target is now the worst. All their figures are garbage. I no longer shop there for toys because I can't buy what they don't have (and I work there now). They don't deserve the HoF series.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 20:11:24 GMT -5
My Walmarts have been dry for the past several months after a GREAT showing in selection. My TRU's have had the same shelf-warmers since the store(s) opening, minus the one or two good ones a year. Target used to be the go-to place for me but their shelves are barren. They only have 2-3 basics, 0-2 elites, and 1-3 battle packs.
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Post by RybackV1 on Oct 22, 2016 23:36:21 GMT -5
The target tracker is currently telling me all stores in my area have Elites for $5 and change, basics for $2 and change. This is a horrible , horrible sign.
I went in earlier and saw they had stocked the new Zombies tho.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Oct 23, 2016 0:51:48 GMT -5
Because of my shift hours and other things, I don't have time to hunt. That and the fact that stores are so bad are the reason that I almost always go exclusively with Ringside when it comes to WWE or Ebay when it comes to exclusives. I'll go to Walgreens for their exclusives because I can find them pretty easy there.
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Post by thelostweekend on Oct 23, 2016 1:40:11 GMT -5
My local Walmart seems to have just gotten a weird case of female figures. The newest Natalya, Eva in green, Naomi in the neon checkers, Paige in black, and 2 of the Elite Lita. It was a crazy assortment to say the least. That's almost definitely just a result of someone returning the figures after they were unable to flip them elsewhere.
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Post by thelostweekend on Oct 23, 2016 1:51:50 GMT -5
As to the issue addressed in the thread title, I don't think the impact of Amazon can be underestimated. If I'm remembering correctly, it wasn't until around Elite 31 or so when the latest Elite wave would turn up on Amazon before it was appearing in stores. Prior to that, Amazon was pretty hit or miss on snagging any recent Elites, and even then, you were still usually buying from a third-party seller.
But since then, only RSC seems to be getting the newest wave before Amazon. Even then, the gap between RSC and Amazon getting the newest wave seems to be tightening as time goes on. RSC got Elite 45, what, less than a month ago? And now you can get the entire wave (sans Seth Rollins, unless you have the quickness of a ninja) for retail price with free Prime shipping. I know not everyone has Prime, but I recall reading earlier this year that about 1 in 5 adults in the US have Prime. In other words, a LOT of people have it.
It wasn't long ago that your choices were A) Pay RSC pre-order prices or B) wait many months for the set to arrive in stores. That's just not the case anymore. It's becoming less of a secret that waiting a couple of extra weeks will allow you to probably score most of the new figures for $20 shipped. There's huge value in that for someone who doesn't want to pay the growing pre-order prices, but also doesn't want to wait months to find the figures in stores.
And then, of course, this can affect things at the retail level. If people are choosing to use Amazon to get their figure fix, then those people have no real use for the figure once they (finally) see it at retail (months) later. Certain figures (such as Demon Balor) are going to move quickly regardless, but then you've got the rest, which are just more likely to sit. And sit. And sit.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Oct 23, 2016 21:16:16 GMT -5
I finally found a decent Walmart with E40 & E42-43. Of course Sami, Neville, & Xavier either weren't on the shelf (not likely) or were already gone
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 21:47:39 GMT -5
As to the issue addressed in the thread title, I don't think the impact of Amazon can be underestimated. If I'm remembering correctly, it wasn't until around Elite 31 or so when the latest Elite wave would turn up on Amazon before it was appearing in stores. Prior to that, Amazon was pretty hit or miss on snagging any recent Elites, and even then, you were still usually buying from a third-party seller. But since then, only RSC seems to be getting the newest wave before Amazon. Even then, the gap between RSC and Amazon getting the newest wave seems to be tightening as time goes on. RSC got Elite 45, what, less than a month ago? And now you can get the entire wave (sans Seth Rollins, unless you have the quickness of a ninja) for retail price with free Prime shipping. I know not everyone has Prime, but I recall reading earlier this year that about 1 in 5 adults in the US have Prime. In other words, a LOT of people have it. It wasn't long ago that your choices were A) Pay RSC pre-order prices or B) wait many months for the set to arrive in stores. That's just not the case anymore. It's becoming less of a secret that waiting a couple of extra weeks will allow you to probably score most of the new figures for $20 shipped. There's huge value in that for someone who doesn't want to pay the growing pre-order prices, but also doesn't want to wait months to find the figures in stores. And then, of course, this can affect things at the retail level. If people are choosing to use Amazon to get their figure fix, then those people have no real use for the figure once they (finally) see it at retail (months) later. Certain figures (such as Demon Balor) are going to move quickly regardless, but then you've got the rest, which are just more likely to sit. And sit. And sit. This.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Oct 24, 2016 4:53:41 GMT -5
As to the issue addressed in the thread title, I don't think the impact of Amazon can be underestimated. If I'm remembering correctly, it wasn't until around Elite 31 or so when the latest Elite wave would turn up on Amazon before it was appearing in stores. Prior to that, Amazon was pretty hit or miss on snagging any recent Elites, and even then, you were still usually buying from a third-party seller. But since then, only RSC seems to be getting the newest wave before Amazon. Even then, the gap between RSC and Amazon getting the newest wave seems to be tightening as time goes on. RSC got Elite 45, what, less than a month ago? And now you can get the entire wave (sans Seth Rollins, unless you have the quickness of a ninja) for retail price with free Prime shipping. I know not everyone has Prime, but I recall reading earlier this year that about 1 in 5 adults in the US have Prime. In other words, a LOT of people have it. It wasn't long ago that your choices were A) Pay RSC pre-order prices or B) wait many months for the set to arrive in stores. That's just not the case anymore. It's becoming less of a secret that waiting a couple of extra weeks will allow you to probably score most of the new figures for $20 shipped. There's huge value in that for someone who doesn't want to pay the growing pre-order prices, but also doesn't want to wait months to find the figures in stores. And then, of course, this can affect things at the retail level. If people are choosing to use Amazon to get their figure fix, then those people have no real use for the figure once they (finally) see it at retail (months) later. Certain figures (such as Demon Balor) are going to move quickly regardless, but then you've got the rest, which are just more likely to sit. And sit. And sit. There's definitely a lot of facts here. In my area, there's still a market for the newer series, but the retailers have to back down on ordering these things. I know ordering is not easy, but if you're doing inventory even partially right you can see how quickly something moves on average. As an example, E42 showed up a month ago or so. 2 places got them. A total of about 3 cases each went out. They are all gone. 1 place has put about 4 cases of E43 out and most are gone now. Yeah, it's a small amount, but if every store put 2-3 cases of each wave out during these slower periods we probably wouldn't have much leftover. Someone mentioned blaming Mattel for assortment choices. Yeah, there were some bad decisions there, but maybe they listened to the forums, which was a mistake. Bryan was on fire on tv when they decided to do e38. Then he got injured and was off tv. They can't predict that. Ambrose was on fire after WM. His figures haven't sold much around here since. Kinda crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2016 6:13:14 GMT -5
Being impatient is what it all comes down to.
With so many people buying at amazon, rsc or ebay because they need it now..doesnt really help retail.
For every figure bought like that, is potentially one less bough at places like walmart or tru.
But hey, lets point the finger..someone else has to be blamed, right?
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Oct 24, 2016 7:33:18 GMT -5
Being impatient is what it all comes down to. With so many people buying at amazon, rsc or ebay because they need it now..doesnt really help retail. For every figure bought like that, is potentially one less bough at places like walmart or tru. But hey, lets point the finger..someone else has to be blamed, right? That seems a bit unfair, doesn't it? We collect. Our areas are skipping waves altogether. You're saying buying off Amazon or RSC makes us impatient when we're worried we may not see the figures at retail at all?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2016 8:27:13 GMT -5
Being impatient is what it all comes down to. With so many people buying at amazon, rsc or ebay because they need it now..doesnt really help retail. For every figure bought like that, is potentially one less bough at places like walmart or tru. But hey, lets point the finger..someone else has to be blamed, right? That seems a bit unfair, doesn't it? We collect. Our areas are skipping waves altogether. You're saying buying off Amazon or RSC makes us impatient when we're worried we may not see the figures at retail at all? People are being impatient by expectig new sets in retail so quick. Rsc and amazon have spoiled everyone with how quick they get the new sets. Isnt it unfair to blame mattel? If things are not selling, stores wont reorder
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