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Post by tg11 on Nov 2, 2016 15:31:51 GMT -5
What if the Horsemen were in the then World Wrestling Federation back in the 80s or even in the 90s? I mean since Arn and Tully were The Brain Busters in the Heenan Family back in the 80s what if Flair had jumped to the WWF back in the 80s? Then you could have had the Horsemen line-up with Flair and The Brain Busters but then add in Rick Rude or Mr. Perfect and that is a perfect line-up of Horsemen especially with Heenan leading them as their manager similar to what JJ Dillon did for the Horsemen back in the NWA/WCW
But would a Four Horsemen stable even work in the WWF?
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Post by The Brain on Nov 2, 2016 15:54:45 GMT -5
Me personally wouldn't mind if the Horsemen had a run in the WWF back in the day. With Heenan as their manager, it would of been priceless.
But nothing will top their NWA run and in the long run knowing Mcmahon he would of fed them all to Hogan.
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Post by tg11 on Nov 2, 2016 16:05:42 GMT -5
Yeah you're probably right Flair if he had jumped like back in 88 and Flair had joined up with the Heenan Family I guarantee you that the Horsemen would have been formed in the WWF back in the day in like 88-89 and Flair, Arn and Tully along with Perfect or Rude or even Andre then yeah you're right McMahon would have fed all of them to Hogan sooner or later
But then the Horsemen they would have feuded with other superstars in the then WWF like Warrior, Savage, DiBiase, etc.
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Post by The Brain on Nov 2, 2016 16:14:02 GMT -5
But then the Horsemen they would have feuded with other superstars in the then WWF like Warrior, Savage, DiBiase, etc. It would of been must see TV for sure.
I could imagine the Horsemen coming into the Prime Time studios and taunting the likes of Hogan,Warrior etc. with Heenan in the back smiling and Monsoon looking all disgusted.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 2, 2016 17:14:26 GMT -5
The Horsemen were technically in the WWE at one time.
There is a story where Vince walked by JJ Dillon, Arn, Tully and Barry Windham in the back of some arena, back in 1989, and said, "well looks like I got myself the Horsemen!"
If Flair would have came over too, yes, the Four Horsemen would have been in the WWE. But they wouldn't have worked in the WWE. They would have been fed to Hulk Hogan on a nightly basis. They wouldn't have had the impact like they had for Mid-Atlantic/WCW territory.
The whole point of that group was to dominate the good guys and no way would they get one over on the likes of Hogan and Warrior.
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Post by tg11 on Nov 2, 2016 20:12:36 GMT -5
But think about a Horsemen group with Flair, Arn, Tully and Rick Rude let's say Rick Rude were the 4th guy with Heenan completely dropping his Heenan family members to be the Horsemen manager for Flair, Arn, Tully and Rude with Rude joining them? They would be unstoppable or think about this Flair, Arn, Tully and Mr. Perfect with Perfect being their 4th guy and either Rude or Perfect being the 4th guy would have made sense since Heenan was managing both guys at one point or another and he was managing both Arn and Tully when they were The Brain Busters and he was Flair's financial advisor
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Nov 2, 2016 20:21:11 GMT -5
Imagine 1990 like this...
The Four Horsemen - the Nature Boy, Ric Flair, the Widow Maker, Barry Windham, and the Brain Busters (Arn Anderson, and Tully Blanchard) with James J. Dillon
vs.
The Ultimate Mega Maniac Powers - the Immortal Hulk Hogan, Macho Man Randy Savage, the Ultimate Warrior, and Brutis the Barber Beefcake with Jimmy Hart
That would make one great War Survivor Games Series main event match!!
The Horsemen could have also feuded with the Heenan Family consisting of Andre the Giant, Ravishing Rick Rude, Mr. Perfect, and Haku.
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Post by robbutler01 on Nov 3, 2016 12:27:34 GMT -5
I think you're right about vince feeding them to hogan but if you could get away from that it would have been awesome!
Loved the Horsemen in WCW/NWA.
The rumours of Flair coming in for summerslam 88 shortly followed by the actual debuts of the Busters and Windham...... So close!!
Anyone got a fantasy booking timeline for it?
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Post by The Brain on Nov 3, 2016 14:54:08 GMT -5
I think you're right about vince feeding them to hogan but if you could get away from that it would have been awesome! Loved the Horsemen in WCW/NWA. The rumours of Flair coming in for summerslam 88 shortly followed by the actual debuts of the Busters and Windham...... So close!! Anyone got a fantasy booking timeline for it? I would of had Tully/Arn come in like they did after Summerslam 88. Then right after WM 5 I'd have Flair/Windham come in and join em with Heenan being the mastermind behind it all.
I would've had em all come out during a Brother Love segment to generate the heat and cut those awesome promos.
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Post by T R W on Nov 3, 2016 14:55:56 GMT -5
It never would have worked in the WWF in the era of Hulkamania. Never.
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Post by The Brain on Nov 3, 2016 15:34:07 GMT -5
It never would have worked in the WWF in the era of Hulkamania. Never. That I do agree on 100%. |
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Post by tg11 on Nov 3, 2016 18:49:31 GMT -5
Flair (WWF Champion)
Arn (WWF Tag Team Champion)
Tully (WWF Tag Team Champion)
Ravishing Rick Rude (WWF Intercontinental Champion)
Heenan managing the Family here which would be his new family
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Post by JokerFC on Nov 4, 2016 6:21:25 GMT -5
Vince was still in "ignore the competition and reinvent their guys" mode....so god only know what we would have got had he got the players together.....LOL
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Nov 4, 2016 7:44:05 GMT -5
Vince was still in "ignore the competition and reinvent their guys" mode....so god only know what we would have got had he got the players together.....LOL Vince would have had them come to the ring on Horses, and instead of the being the greatest faction of all time, they would have been stable of Cowboys, with promos done in an actual stable, with horses. |
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Post by bigraj on Nov 4, 2016 15:40:12 GMT -5
It never would have worked in the WWF in the era of Hulkamania. Never. I think that's right. Besides, 1989 was my favorite year in pro wrestling because both JCP and WWF were on fire, content-wise. SO much of the singles greatness would be lost if we'd gotten the Horsemen bumping like superballs for guys like Hogan and Warrior. We may not get the Mega-Powers Explode angle. '89 Flair vs '89 Savage would have been outstanding, though, and leads to Flair main eventing with Hogan at WM V or VI, depending on the timing of Flair's arrival. Guys like Rude, Hennig, and DiBiase probably leave WWF so they don't get lost in the shuffle. NO Flair-Steamboat '89 series, which means no Flair-Funk feud.  A Luger-Steamboat program for the NWA title would be good stuff, though, based on how great their U.S. title program was. Luger as World Champ likely means we don't get him feuding with Pillman, which was pretty great stuff in late summer '89. The influx of great upper mid-card talent may have Muta jobbing instead of feuding with Sting and Flair. We'd gain some good stuff, but I think we'd lose more overall. |
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Post by JokerFC on Nov 5, 2016 3:42:09 GMT -5
It never would have worked in the WWF in the era of Hulkamania. Never. I think that's right. Besides, 1989 was my favorite year in pro wrestling because both JCP and WWF were on fire, content-wise. SO much of the singles greatness would be lost if we'd gotten the Horsemen bumping like superballs for guys like Hogan and Warrior. We may not get the Mega-Powers Explode angle. '89 Flair vs '89 Savage would have been outstanding, though, and leads to Flair main eventing with Hogan at WM V or VI, depending on the timing of Flair's arrival. Guys like Rude, Hennig, and DiBiase probably leave WWF so they don't get lost in the shuffle. NO Flair-Steamboat '89 series, which means no Flair-Funk feud. A Luger-Steamboat program for the NWA title would be good stuff, though, based on how great their U.S. title program was. Luger as World Champ likely means we don't get him feuding with Pillman, which was pretty great stuff in late summer '89. The influx of great upper mid-card talent may have Muta jobbing instead of feuding with Sting and Flair. We'd gain some good stuff, but I think we'd lose more overall. Anything that would jeopardize the Mega Powers angle is not for me........it was and still is magnificent. |
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Post by robbutler01 on Nov 5, 2016 4:58:03 GMT -5
I think that's right. Besides, 1989 was my favorite year in pro wrestling because both JCP and WWF were on fire, content-wise. SO much of the singles greatness would be lost if we'd gotten the Horsemen bumping like superballs for guys like Hogan and Warrior. We may not get the Mega-Powers Explode angle. '89 Flair vs '89 Savage would have been outstanding, though, and leads to Flair main eventing with Hogan at WM V or VI, depending on the timing of Flair's arrival. Guys like Rude, Hennig, and DiBiase probably leave WWF so they don't get lost in the shuffle. NO Flair-Steamboat '89 series, which means no Flair-Funk feud. A Luger-Steamboat program for the NWA title would be good stuff, though, based on how great their U.S. title program was. Luger as World Champ likely means we don't get him feuding with Pillman, which was pretty great stuff in late summer '89. The influx of great upper mid-card talent may have Muta jobbing instead of feuding with Sting and Flair. We'd gain some good stuff, but I think we'd lose more overall. Anything that would jeopardize the Mega Powers angle is not for me........it was and still is magnificent. Good point. One of the greatest, well played angles ever |
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Post by JC Motors on Nov 11, 2016 10:26:51 GMT -5
It never would have worked in the WWF in the era of Hulkamania. Never. Hulkamania would have run wild all over the Horsemen. |
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Nov 11, 2016 10:37:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm also thinking Hogan would go through all of one by one before getting to Flair, who might get one countout victory over Hogan on TV and then lose to him every night at house shows and then go on to lose the one-on-one ppv match. Nobody was taking Hogan down in the 80s.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Nov 23, 2016 17:11:59 GMT -5
I think they would have been massively watered down and only would have been fed to Hogan.
I'm glad that Vince never got his hands on them.
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