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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 23, 2016 0:48:16 GMT -5
Not long after main eventing WM8 against Hulk Hogan, Sid "Justice" left the WWF due to a combo of wanting to focus on a softball career and failing a drug test. Even looking back at this today it's shocking that he was gone after the major push they gave him, from teaming with Hogan to turning on him and man eventing the biggest show of the year.
My question is, what do you think the plans were for Sid? We know he was set to feud with Warrior following WM8, but what after that? Would he have continued with the major push and won the WWF Title later that year or in 1993? Would he have affected Bret and Yoko's pushes to the main event? Would he have turned face in 1993 and taken Luger's place as Vince's new project?
I feel this is a huge "what if" in wrestling as Sid seemed to be in position for big things going forward, especially with Hogan gone following WM8, Flair, Warrior, and Bulldog gone by the end of the year, and Savage being forced into a commentator role.
How do you think history would have been affected had Sid not left the WWF in 1992?
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Post by The Brain on Nov 23, 2016 1:04:12 GMT -5
I think he would of had a feud with Undertaker since they wrestled during that WWF Rampage UK tour right after WM 8. Then after that he would of probably been involved in the whole Ultimate Maniacs/Flair,Ramon feud.
It sucks he left though as I was really looking forward to that feud with Warrior.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 23, 2016 1:23:37 GMT -5
From my understanding with the whole Sid situation, is that he was groomed to be the next Hulk Hogan. That is why at SummerSlam 91 that Hogan kind of gave the rub off to Sid, with having Sid flex and such. Vince's plans was to have Sid take over where Hogan left off.
Now Sid didn't want that, from what I remember hearing, Sid wanted to be heel. So finally after months of this, Vince turned Sid heel and had him job to Hogan by DQ at Mania.
Sid may have been his own worst enemy in that situation. Maybe it would have been Sid vs. Flair for the WWE Title at Wrestlemania VIII instead of Flair vs. Savage??
Though with his heel turn, Sid vs. Undertaker feud seemed likely, as well as the Sid vs. Warrior feud.
Where Sid would have ended up?? It's hard to say. If he remained face, I am guessing maybe there would have been no need to bring Warrior back at all, and had Sid as the WWE Champion all through 1992. If he stayed as a heel, maybe he would have taken Razor Ramon's spot with Ric Flair vs. The Mega Maniacs.
Maybe Sid would have still up and left and went back to WCW in 1993. That one is a tough one to figure out really. Mainly because 1992 was sucha messed up year for the WWE, it was like a huge transition year for them.
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Post by robbutler01 on Nov 23, 2016 9:50:37 GMT -5
I've wondered this quite a few times. It does seem that he could have changed the direction of several people with his actions.
Anyway how bout everything the same then he faces warrior after mania 8. With flair and Macho still first the world title, then after summerslam he moves on to feud with taker who takes the belt from flair ( as they feuded in the autumn) and they then battle for the world title which he wins and then turns face to feud with new arrivals yokozuna and Luger over the belt? This is based on no steroid trial too tho as this would affect sid in a big way most likely.
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Post by JokerFC on Nov 23, 2016 13:52:04 GMT -5
I think Sid would have ended up being canned by Vince(same as Bulldog & warrior) over roids. Sid was using HGH like the 2 boys....but if he didn't? Its hard to say.
If he had went face like Vince wanted? I think he would have been the one to dethrone Flair at WM8 no doubt. This was clearly Vinnies intent....he brought Sid in to be the next "guy" but as stated above? Sid was difficult creatively and often threw a spanner in the works.
If he had stayed as a heel? He would have no doubt enjoyed a lucrative programme with Warrior. Would he have dethroned Savage only to drop it to Bret at Survivor Series? I still see Bret getting the strap in 92 because Vince wanted less "corn fed" guys on top.
Vince would have had more options in the title scenario that's for sure.....Savage was dropping the strap one way or another around Summerslam time.
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Post by The Brain on Nov 23, 2016 17:17:21 GMT -5
I don't know about you guys but I always like Sid's theme in 91/2. It was bada$$.
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 23, 2016 18:35:55 GMT -5
I don't know about you guys but I always like Sid's theme in 91/2. It was bada$$. He always had awesome themes. 91/92. Psycho Sid theme in 1995-1997. His WCW return in 1999/2000. I always liked his themes. |
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Post by The Brain on Nov 23, 2016 18:39:24 GMT -5
I don't know about you guys but I always like Sid's theme in 91/2. It was bada$$. He always had awesome themes. 91/92. Psycho Sid theme in 1995-1997. His WCW return in 1999/2000. I always liked his themes. Very true. |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 23, 2016 18:48:44 GMT -5
Sid had an interesting career when you look back...
Memphis in the mid 80s
CWF in the late 80s where he won the Tag Titles with Shane Douglas
NWA/WCW from 1989 - 1991
WWF from 1991 - 1992
Global Wrestling Federation from 1992 - 1993
WCW in 1993
USWA in 1994
WWF in 1995
USWA in 1996
WWF in 1996 - 1997
ECW in 1999
WCW in 1999 - 2001
For being the so called 'next big thing' that PWI coined him as in the early 90s, he definitely didn't leave too much of a solid impact in his career with all the times he jumped from federation to federation.
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Post by The Brain on Nov 23, 2016 18:51:52 GMT -5
Sid's last WWF TV appearance until he returned in 95. Like I said I was really looking forward to the feud even though the matches would of sucked. |
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Post by jason1980s on Nov 23, 2016 18:57:44 GMT -5
I can see Papa Shango and Kamala being affected, as I think a Warrior program might not have lasted too long before things go the same with Warrior/Macho/Flair and Sid moving on to the Undertaker feud.
Shango and Kamala are replaceable during that time period and quite silly even for 1992 but Sid would give more credibility to Warrior and Undertaker. Since Sid was always a major force in any federation I see Razor being negatively affected (he would still get over as a face in 1993) but his early push as a heel wouldn't come as quick. Sid would align with Flair and therefore get the Rumble match with Bret. I can see Bret getting a lucky win against Sid, based on his talent of getting a skin the cat type win at the last minute of the match so Sid isn't hurt much at all.
I don't see him lasting too much longer with WWF and also wouldn't think of where he could fit around that time period. Yokozuna seems to be the only heel with a huge push at the time (also, due to such a thin roster)-everyone else was just kind of "there." Sid would probably just wind up in a random fued.
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 23, 2016 23:44:43 GMT -5
Sid had an interesting career when you look back... Memphis in the mid 80s CWF in the late 80s where he won the Tag Titles with Shane Douglas NWA/WCW from 1989 - 1991 WWF from 1991 - 1992 Global Wrestling Federation from 1992 - 1993 WCW in 1993 USWA in 1994 WWF in 1995 USWA in 1996 WWF in 1996 - 1997 ECW in 1999 WCW in 1999 - 2001 For being the so called 'next big thing' that PWI coined him as in the early 90s, he definitely didn't leave too much of a solid impact in his career with all the times he jumped from federation to federation. For jumping so much, and considering he spent less than 4 years in the WWF total, I think he left a small but solid impact. He main evented two WMs, against two of the biggest stars of all time, and won both the WWF and WCW Titles twice. He always seemed to be in a top position in every company he was a part of, and always seemed to be over as a heel or a face (even as a face in 2000 he always got good reactions from the live crowds). While he was far from being anything average in the ring, his energy always helped get him over and he had one of the best power bombs in the business. |
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Post by robbutler01 on Nov 24, 2016 13:13:55 GMT -5
He definitely had the look that promoters wanted as the head of the promotion. Unfortunately something always messed it up, sid himself several times.
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Post by The Brain on Nov 24, 2016 17:28:45 GMT -5
A lot of people criticize Sid's promos but IMO they were entertaining as hell. Especially WM 8 with Mean Gene when he said ''SHUT UP YOU BALD FAT LITTLE OAF''!!!
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Post by robbutler01 on Nov 24, 2016 17:37:17 GMT -5
A lot of people criticize Sid's promos but IMO they were entertaining as hell. Especially WM 8 with Mean Gene when he said ''SHUT UP YOU BALD FAT LITTLE OAF''!!! I love that promo! Cracks me up everything! Lol |
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 24, 2016 19:32:48 GMT -5
A lot of people criticize Sid's promos but IMO they were entertaining as hell. Especially WM 8 with Mean Gene when he said ''SHUT UP YOU BALD FAT LITTLE OAF''!!! lol I love that one. The energy he had was off the charts. Yeah he was awkward in the ring but you can tell he always gave it his all during promos and when he was in front of a crowd. I was always entertained by the guy. |
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Post by The Brain on Nov 24, 2016 19:42:56 GMT -5
A lot of people criticize Sid's promos but IMO they were entertaining as hell. Especially WM 8 with Mean Gene when he said ''SHUT UP YOU BALD FAT LITTLE OAF''!!! lol I love that one. The energy he had was off the charts. Yeah he was awkward in the ring but you can tell he always gave it his all during promos and when he was in front of a crowd. I was always entertained by the guy. Same here. Sid was the MAN. |
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Post by robbutler01 on Nov 25, 2016 2:12:25 GMT -5
lol I love that one. The energy he had was off the charts. Yeah he was awkward in the ring but you can tell he always gave it his all during promos and when he was in front of a crowd. I was always entertained by the guy. Same here. Sid was the MAN. He was an absolute beast! Agreed before Austin was a cool bad guy or lesnar and Goldberg were bad, ass kickers you had sid.... The man who ruled the world - almost! |
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Post by The Brain on Nov 25, 2016 2:16:40 GMT -5
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Post by robbutler01 on Nov 25, 2016 2:52:20 GMT -5
Love it, it fit him so well. I always remember the video package they put together for mania 8 with sid destroying jobbers to this - absolutely classic! |
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