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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Dec 2, 2016 15:37:02 GMT -5
Mass retail has never been kind to full waves of flashback figures anyway. And we've always known that secondary market value is not indicative of a successful mass market rerelease.
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Post by davey on Dec 2, 2016 15:48:03 GMT -5
Because they rerelease stuff noone wants.
Rerelease Diesel. Re-release some good figures people want.
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Post by Vamp55 on Dec 2, 2016 16:12:56 GMT -5
God I hope so... I hate reissues. No reason for it, not that hard to turn them into repaints and keep everyone happy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 16:14:38 GMT -5
I personally love the rereleases. I just started collecting a year ago (only really bought ML Legends, DCUC, and MOTUC) and the chance to get high price figs like Kamala and the iconic Warrior figure has been amazing. I have two kids and only a small amount of money I can spend on figs, so eBay and grey market aren't an option. With so many amazing attires already produced, I hope they continue rereleasing figs. I need an NWO Savage and Vader real bad.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 16:15:02 GMT -5
I hope the rereleases have finished for good.
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Post by 'Exotic' Adrian Street on Dec 2, 2016 16:29:20 GMT -5
Because they rerelease stuff noone wants. Rerelease Diesel. Re-release some good figures people want. I agree with you somewhat Overall re releases (or pretty close to straight re releases) E19 HBK - this was a highly sought after figure BEFORE the WM 14 Elite came out and various other Elite HBK's. Waste of a spot. Could've been an easy repaint of his many attires E23 Undertaker - with the massive failure of the DM reissue, I'm not sure why they would put out Elite 23 again, but they did. Waste of a spot to me (but I'm not really an Undertaker guy) Could've been E12 Kane L4? Kamala - it's hard to criticize this figure, because IMO it is one of Mattels best ever BUT Kamala was never high on the secondary market (loose) and I don't think there's a huge Kamala fan base that was demanding a chance to get him again. As was mentioned on here before, I thought it might have just been WWE throwing him a bone. With all his medical issues and whatnot, but he is on the lawsuit so I doubt that In reality probably a waste, could've gone to L6 Eddie Guerrero or Bret Hart DM (w/o the accessories) or something L6 Warrrior - prices and demand were sky high for this figure before. Have zero issues with this rerelease One of the biggest matches in the history of the WWE/F. I'd welcome another rerelease of it in a 2 pack with Hogan whenever he comes back. Legends Matty DDP - was a little demand for it but in that era of DDP, he had much more color combos they could've changed up. Fail of a rerelease IMO. May not have had time though because of IRS not coming back good enough. Don't know. L2? George Steele - Best decision ever not putting him back on Targets shelves to rot SDCC Taker - epic fail or epic job of over producing. Not sure. Great figure though! LOL RSC Austin/DM Austin - close enough but the switched up a couple things. Plus 3 VAC belts. Win, win. (Just a major loss of the DM Hollywood figure) E14 Bossman - this one got me. This figure was high dollar and highly demanded (I thought). Really can't believe it warm so bad Guess it was a waste in retrospect but I don't blame them for trying to give us something that was tough to come by. And very few changes could've been made to him My thoughts are maybe once a year in the regular Elite line, maybe give us a rerelease E17 Mankind, L5 Macho, E12 Kane, E16 Nash (that not everyone got a real good chance at), E16 Diesel. Or none at all. I personally like that some stuff is valuable and hard to acquire. Keeps things interesting
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 16:44:30 GMT -5
Seeing as theyre having a sale right now, probably shows why theyre that low.
Its not the death of rereleases, seeing as these barely got a shot in actual retail settings.
It was the start of the half series. probably quicker and cheaper to rerelease figures, then to make new characters/attires.
The moment anything drops to a certain price a thread pops up "is it the death of the dm?" , "sign the hof series is done"
Everyone talks on here as if they know sales numbers...you dont.
You cant say if somethings a failure, because you dont know any of the numbers.
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Post by 'Exotic' Adrian Street on Dec 2, 2016 16:51:30 GMT -5
Seeing as theyre having a sale right now, probably shows why theyre that low. Its not the death of rereleases, seeing as these barely got a shot in actual retail settings. It was the start of the half series. probably quicker and cheaper to rerelease figures, then to make new characters/attires. The moment anything drops to a certain price a thread pops up "is it the death of the dm?" , "sign the hof series is done" The death of the DM's is coming. People may not want to see it. But it will if they continue the pattern they are on And the 'death' of HOF talk is warranted. We saw MOC pics at WM 32. Still no sign of them. I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, the BOPPV lines died at TRU. The HOF line can die at Target. Just like the Elite line appears to be on life support there I'm with you on re releases or the Lost Legends series. They haven't really hit all TRU's and Wal Marts in the US. So we will see. I hope they do ok TBH
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Post by LuisTX on Dec 2, 2016 16:52:48 GMT -5
I think the ones that should get a re-release are the ones people are selling for over $100 on eBay. I would say the Undertaker was a good re-release, but maybe waited too long and people either lost interest in finally getting it and/or ended up paying a lot for it on eBay. I think another good one would be the Elite 12 Kane.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Dec 2, 2016 16:57:07 GMT -5
Because they rerelease stuff noone wants. Rerelease Diesel. Re-release some good figures people want. I agree with you somewhat Overall re releases (or pretty close to straight re releases) E19 HBK - this was a highly sought after figure BEFORE the WM 14 Elite came out and various other Elite HBK's. Waste of a spot. Could've been an easy repaint of his many attires E23 Undertaker - with the massive failure of the DM reissue, I'm not sure why they would put out Elite 23 again, but they did. Waste of a spot to me (but I'm not really an Undertaker guy) Could've been E12 Kane L4? Kamala - it's hard to criticize this figure, because IMO it is one of Mattels best ever BUT Kamala was never high on the secondary market (loose) and I don't think there's a huge Kamala fan base that was demanding a chance to get him again. As was mentioned on here before, I thought it might have just been WWE throwing him a bone. With all his medical issues and whatnot, but he is on the lawsuit so I doubt that In reality probably a waste, could've gone to L6 Eddie Guerrero or Bret Hart DM (w/o the accessories) or something L6 Warrrior - prices and demand were sky high for this figure before. Have zero issues with this rerelease One of the biggest matches in the history of the WWE/F. I'd welcome another rerelease of it in a 2 pack with Hogan whenever he comes back. Legends Matty DDP - was a little demand for it but in that era of DDP, he had much more color combos they could've changed up. Fail of a rerelease IMO. May not have had time though because of IRS not coming back good enough. Don't know. L2? George Steele - Best decision ever not putting him back on Targets shelves to rot SDCC Taker - epic fail or epic job of over producing. Not sure. Great figure though! LOL RSC Austin/DM Austin - close enough but the switched up a couple things. Plus 3 VAC belts. Win, win. (Just a major loss of the DM Hollywood figure) E14 Bossman - this one got me. This figure was high dollar and highly demanded (I thought). Really can't believe it warm so bad Guess it was a waste in retrospect but I don't blame them for trying to give us something that was tough to come by. And very few changes could've been made to him My thoughts are maybe once a year in the regular Elite line, maybe give us a rerelease E17 Mankind, L5 Macho, E12 Kane, E16 Nash (that not everyone got a real good chance at), E16 Diesel. Or none at all. I personally like that some stuff is valuable and hard to acquire. Keeps things interesting Steele is still coming to rot. Just pushed back. Will be in HOF5 instead of HOF4. Maybe he is gets replaced again. If WM6 Warrior re-release came with a yellow IC belt, it woulda sold much better.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 16:57:21 GMT -5
Seeing as theyre having a sale right now, probably shows why theyre that low. Its not the death of rereleases, seeing as these barely got a shot in actual retail settings. It was the start of the half series. probably quicker and cheaper to rerelease figures, then to make new characters/attires. The moment anything drops to a certain price a thread pops up "is it the death of the dm?" , "sign the hof series is done" The death of the DM's is coming. People may not want to see it. But it will if they continue the pattern they are on And the 'death' of HOF talk is warranted. We saw MOC pics at WM 32. Still no sign of them. I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, the BOPPV lines died at TRU. The HOF line can die at Target. Just like the Elite line appears to be on life support there I'm with you on re releases or the Lost Legends series. They haven't really hit all TRU's and Wal Marts in the US. So we will see. I hope they do ok TBH Theres a difference between people not buying and stores waiting to reorder. Target seems to be in the ordering category, since all (northeast that ive seen) elites have been clearanced out. The issues we see with dm figure and the issue with boppv are the amounts made and shipped. Theres no reason for walmart to get 16 of the same $25 taker figure. Mattel have seemed to realize that and are doing half series now. If the dm figures are a limited item, they will sell better and not clog shelves. Hof line seems stagnant, because of tito flooding every store. I mean, who wanted a tito figure that bad in the first place?
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Post by CampCornette on Dec 2, 2016 17:02:21 GMT -5
Well, seeing I have yet to see them in any stores around here I am passing on them. There's no reason for me to get them online and pay shipping costs for figures I already have the originals of. When I see them locally I will probably pick up the HBK and Taker as well as another Magnum (the only figure in the set I preordered) But I don't know if I would say they are killing anything. I am sure RSC is taking a hit on everyone other than Magnum, because probably 80% + of their customers are collector based so most probably are passing because they already have. But I am sure once they hit mass retail stores they will sell much better with the general public who are looking for gifts for their kids/grandkids/siblings/friends. Why get hbk or taker at all?
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Post by PJ on Dec 2, 2016 17:17:06 GMT -5
Well, seeing I have yet to see them in any stores around here I am passing on them. There's no reason for me to get them online and pay shipping costs for figures I already have the originals of. When I see them locally I will probably pick up the HBK and Taker as well as another Magnum (the only figure in the set I preordered) But I don't know if I would say they are killing anything. I am sure RSC is taking a hit on everyone other than Magnum, because probably 80% + of their customers are collector based so most probably are passing because they already have. But I am sure once they hit mass retail stores they will sell much better with the general public who are looking for gifts for their kids/grandkids/siblings/friends. Why get hbk or taker at all? There are a couple fixups I want to do...one being putting that HBK head on the new WM HBK because I hated that modern HBK ponytailed head on the EG figure when it was released so I would rather put the e19 head on it even though he started the match with the ponytail.
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Post by ARUN on Dec 2, 2016 17:23:40 GMT -5
The lost legends set has been on shelves in Canada for about it 2 months and they are moving slowly. My wal mart has multiples of each.
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Post by kennyw86 on Dec 2, 2016 18:28:19 GMT -5
Because they rerelease stuff noone wants. Rerelease Diesel. Re-release some good figures people want. Could have easily been e16 nash or diesel, e17 mankind, e12 kane, elite ryder with the internet title, nwo savage and magnum and would have sold much better
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Post by CampCornette on Dec 2, 2016 18:52:21 GMT -5
Why get hbk or taker at all? There are a couple fixups I want to do...one being putting that HBK head on the new WM HBK because I hated that modern HBK ponytailed head on the EG figure when it was released so I would rather put the e19 head on it even though he started the match with the ponytail. I agree the ponytail head is bad, most are. Except for really rvd
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Post by warriorheart on Dec 2, 2016 19:32:26 GMT -5
I only saw 1 Warrior and nobody else at stores around here. I already have it, but I wouldn't of minded having one for MOC. I would of bought another Taker as well if they would of corrected the purple to actual look purple and not blue. Amazon even had it for $10 last weekend.
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Post by ftc on Dec 2, 2016 19:45:55 GMT -5
I vote for re-releases with tweaks
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Post by tylergfromthe513 on Dec 2, 2016 23:33:18 GMT -5
Id really like a rerelease of NWO Macho and Elite 12 Kane. Preeeaaase.
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Post by savage on Dec 2, 2016 23:37:36 GMT -5
I think they've sold well.. They are an older series at this point and we're obviously massed produced just as much as any other elite series. They all down in price after a while especially for Black Friday.
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