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Post by Boy Wonder on Dec 28, 2016 7:46:27 GMT -5
Would've made a lot more sense for him to help their floundering DC lines, but neat nonetheless. Always fun to hear about guys jumping around from company to company.
But no. Keep Jeremy away from Mattel. We don't need figures with no paint applications on their backs.
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Post by CampCornette on Dec 28, 2016 7:51:52 GMT -5
Whoever David Vonner is, I hope he makes Kevin Owens arms less orangutan
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Post by popyduggan on Dec 28, 2016 8:16:01 GMT -5
Cool, maybe work in some geeky stuff like extra hands and heads. I really hope he's creative, knowledgable about wrestling, and doesn't cramp Bill's style, or F with things that are perfectly functional.
Edit: He sounds like a fun, charismatic guy, I mean if fans tried to petition to rehire him, he must've done something right, and he does like Legends lines, hmm...him and Bill could be like the Megapowers of wrestling figures if he's as influential as he seems.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Dec 28, 2016 8:44:30 GMT -5
Hopefully this doesn't affect Bill too much, I like what he's done and where hes going with our legends/flashbacks/hof ect
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 9:16:50 GMT -5
Perfect? The WWE line is NOT perfect. Some of the scans are bad, scale issues, flesh tone being painted, there are issues in the design of these figures that need an overhaul. Hopefully they'll get that now Can you name a current major toy company that sells figures for 20-25 dollars today that makes near perfect figures? Just asking because I have yet to see any. We're talking about trying to simulate realism on a piece of plastic. I'll take a few dings here and there for what we get in the overall product. The more glaring issue I think has been the distribution which may or may not be out of mattels hands I agree. It's a great product. But perfect like the post I quoted said? No way.
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Post by BorrachoBancho on Dec 28, 2016 9:32:10 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see what exactly he adds to the line.
Mattel has a solid product. EVERY toy line has its short comings, and occasional/frequent mind numbing oversights or decisions. It's just the way it is. Not every figure can get exclusive parts. And toy lines that do have more unique looks typically do it at the expense of articulation (think McFarlane toys). There's times when I'm handling Mattel figures, and I have to take my time to really look at how good of a job they did. And other times, I see the figure and shake my head at poor decisions that they made with it. That's part of collecting. You'll get plenty of misses mixed in with hits. There's nothing wrong with expressing displeasure over it, so long as your expectations are realistic for the product moving forward.
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Post by john on Dec 28, 2016 11:21:16 GMT -5
Perfect? The WWE line is NOT perfect. Some of the scans are bad, scale issues, flesh tone being painted, there are issues in the design of these figures that need an overhaul. Hopefully they'll get that now Can you name a current major toy company that sells figures for 20-25 dollars today that makes near perfect figures? Just asking because I have yet to see any. We're talking about trying to simulate realism on a piece of plastic. I'll take a few dings here and there for what we get in the overall product. The more glaring issue I think has been the distribution which may or may not be out of mattels hands Neca.
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Post by tylergfromthe513 on Dec 28, 2016 11:40:08 GMT -5
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Post by BorrachoBancho on Dec 28, 2016 11:48:32 GMT -5
Can you name a current major toy company that sells figures for 20-25 dollars today that makes near perfect figures? Just asking because I have yet to see any. We're talking about trying to simulate realism on a piece of plastic. I'll take a few dings here and there for what we get in the overall product. The more glaring issue I think has been the distribution which may or may not be out of mattels hands Neca. I really don't want to see this thread stray off topic and turn into a "tit for tat" argument over toy lines. Buuuuuuut, as a fan of NECA, if you look at what you get in a $25 figure from their "Ultimate" line, and compare it to what you get in a $30 Mattel DM, it's pretty crazy. I won't pretend I know the in's and out's of how each company does business, or anything about their budgest/profits for particular figures, but it's definitely interesting to see the difference in what you get out of the box.
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Post by deskjet on Dec 28, 2016 12:05:39 GMT -5
Can you name a current major toy company that sells figures for 20-25 dollars today that makes near perfect figures? Just asking because I have yet to see any. We're talking about trying to simulate realism on a piece of plastic. I'll take a few dings here and there for what we get in the overall product. The more glaring issue I think has been the distribution which may or may not be out of mattels hands Neca. Are you referring to the same Neca company that produces figures that break fresh outta the package? I have a pacific rim and saw figure in pieces right now. Bottom line every company has issues but I think wwe Mattel has really been unfairly nitpicked for it being a mass retail product. If it was high end stuff like gentle giant that'd be one thing. These are really geared toward kids to open up and play with not to be sat on a shelf and admired. Again, with that target market you better be willing to shell out some cash, and even then I'm sure someone will find a nitpick about it. Coming from and era where figures vibrated or had zero to five points of articulation or were pretty much the same scale across the board, I find it hard to complain about much of anything Mattel gives us.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 12:09:08 GMT -5
Oh damn. This is huge. This dude cares about everything he touches and is very in touch with fans. Can't wait!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 12:14:21 GMT -5
Neca figs look great, but break far too frequently and often. Marvel Legends is doing a killer job now a days. Honestly the best line that was consistent on all ends, was MOTUC, but even there, you can nit pick problems
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Post by john on Dec 28, 2016 12:15:50 GMT -5
Are you referring to the same Neca company that produces figures that break fresh outta the package? I have a pacific rim and saw figure in pieces right now. Bottom line every company has issues but I think wwe Mattel has really been unfairly nitpicked for it being a mass retail product. If it was high end stuff like gentle giant that'd be one thing. These are really geared toward kids to open up and play with not to be sat on a shelf and admired. Again, with that target market you better be willing to shell out some cash, and even then I'm sure someone will find a nitpick about it. Coming from and era where figures vibrated or had zero to five points of articulation or were pretty much the same scale across the board, I find it hard to complain about much of anything Mattel gives us. Creating children's playthings wasn't the original question. Now you are changing the parameters. You said major toy company producing realism in a piece of plastic and doing it better at the same price point. the answer is NECA. Now you are saying who makes a more durable toy at the price point. I agree that a elite WWE mattel figure will last longer in the hands of a 5 year old than a NECA ultimate figure, however, that wasn't the original question that you posed.
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Post by deskjet on Dec 28, 2016 12:47:23 GMT -5
Are you referring to the same Neca company that produces figures that break fresh outta the package? I have a pacific rim and saw figure in pieces right now. Bottom line every company has issues but I think wwe Mattel has really been unfairly nitpicked for it being a mass retail product. If it was high end stuff like gentle giant that'd be one thing. These are really geared toward kids to open up and play with not to be sat on a shelf and admired. Again, with that target market you better be willing to shell out some cash, and even then I'm sure someone will find a nitpick about it. Coming from and era where figures vibrated or had zero to five points of articulation or were pretty much the same scale across the board, I find it hard to complain about much of anything Mattel gives us. Creating children's playthings wasn't the original question.  Now you are changing the parameters. You said major toy company producing realism in a piece of plastic and doing it better at the same price point. the answer is NECA. Now you are saying who makes a more durable toy at the price point. I agree that a elite WWE mattel figure will last longer in the hands of a 5 year old than a NECA ultimate figure, however, that wasn't the original question that you posed. Regardless the theme here is quality from whatever perspective you choose to address it. If your offering a figure that frequently breaks over paint apps/realism, then no thanks.
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Dec 28, 2016 12:53:14 GMT -5
I wish this would lead to double jointed elbows and alternate hands.
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Post by ARUN on Dec 28, 2016 12:57:35 GMT -5
I'm very interested to see what comes of this. It would be nice for him to get an account and post on here.
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Post by dakis on Dec 28, 2016 13:05:10 GMT -5
Maybe he will become a presence here on wfigs?! Someone from Mattel....please post at least semi-regularly! Yea we did a good job of keeping up our good relationship with Bill so I'm sure this guy can't wait to hear from us.
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Post by Grapple Arcade on Dec 28, 2016 14:09:39 GMT -5
I was about to make an incredibly incorrect assumption and assume he was older and may have been around during Hasbro/WWF, but I can see by his career timeline he wasn't there at the time. In fact he's only 44.
However with his experience with the 3.75 range, I'd be up for a gi Joe sized line to possibly run alongside or after the 'Hasbro' line.
It can't hurt to have someone like him onboard. Some fresh ideas, perspective and experience is always welcome.
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Post by bababooey on Dec 28, 2016 14:17:05 GMT -5
I don't know who this guy is but I wanna be excited just based off the reaction this thread is getting.
However, how much of an effect can he really have? If you make major changes to the figures then we basically start our collections over again. The figures are already really good. Maybe the impact he can have is more in terms of negotiating budgets and stuff. I think Bill does a great job but sometimes it seems like Mattel beats him down and he's gotta compromise stuff to meet in the middle. Maybe a fresh face to fight for the line or bring some fresh mechanics ideas can help with some QC issues.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 15:33:31 GMT -5
Are you referring to the same Neca company that produces figures that break fresh outta the package? I have a pacific rim and saw figure in pieces right now. Bottom line every company has issues but I think wwe Mattel has really been unfairly nitpicked for it being a mass retail product. If it was high end stuff like gentle giant that'd be one thing. These are really geared toward kids to open up and play with not to be sat on a shelf and admired. Again, with that target market you better be willing to shell out some cash, and even then I'm sure someone will find a nitpick about it. Coming from and era where figures vibrated or had zero to five points of articulation or were pretty much the same scale across the board, I find it hard to complain about much of anything Mattel gives us. Creating children's playthings wasn't the original question.  Now you are changing the parameters. You said major toy company producing realism in a piece of plastic and doing it better at the same price point. the answer is NECA. Now you are saying who makes a more durable toy at the price point. I agree that a elite WWE mattel figure will last longer in the hands of a 5 year old than a NECA ultimate figure, however, that wasn't the original question that you posed. I wouldnt say neca makes "toys"....
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