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Post by Professor Sparlin on Jan 14, 2017 19:47:40 GMT -5
If Mattel acquires the rights to make Hogan, I hope they waste no time and pump out as many Hogans they can within the first year. More NWO attires than red and yellow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 19:53:34 GMT -5
It's a forum for action figures, whatdoyouexpect? wanting someone back just for a figure is sad I'm perplexed by this statement. I don't owe Hogan anything. He had his day in the sun, made millions of dollars, and now he's a sad attention-whoring old man. If it weren't for the fact that I want action figures to remind me of when he was worth a damn, I would have no reason to ever want to see him again. If that's sad, it's purely sad for him. We also need a 1988-1991 Hogan. Prime Hogan. I want that Hogan too. I would have called '85-'87 his prime though. After he beat Andre, he was never the same to me. Kinda like he lost that 'eye of the tiger' and went on auto-pilot.
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Jan 14, 2017 20:31:45 GMT -5
It's a forum for action figures, whatdoyouexpect? wanting someone back just for a figure is sad Having "Randy Orton as your only idol" makes your dad sad "forever"
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Post by boz1515 on Jan 14, 2017 21:25:12 GMT -5
ohhh because thats the only Racist or negative thing having to do w/ wrestling? haha... Your son will learn thats how the world is...google almost anyone and their will be some negative story. How about stone cold beating his wife? Snuka killing that woman and getting it covered up?.. Xpac and China in a Porn tape together...and so on and so on. He was let go to make sure there was no heat towards the company....people will forget or move on to more important things in life...and Hulk will be back. For the reasons you mentioned, I do not own any of those figures, nor do I own any other gimmicks I think cross the line like The Godfather, Kamala, etc. I had to really come to terms with myself with buying a '99 Savage. Not excited about his treatment of women during that period, work or not. I understand that my son will be exposed to ignorance and injustice but as a responsible father, my job is to teach him that it is wrong, regardless of whether people "forget" or not. I hear what you are saying about parenting, (and the point made about Austin, Snuka, Chyna, etc. is very well made). How about teaching your son about forgiveness? Hogan might be the only person on that list who has actually apologized. How about telling your son about all of the Make-A-Wish visits Hogan made? I want the figures, HOF recognition, occasional appearance. I also really want Hogan doing interviews on the Network, and Hulk Hogan's Rock 'n' Wrestling back on the Network as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 21:27:09 GMT -5
For the reasons you mentioned, I do not own any of those figures, nor do I own any other gimmicks I think cross the line like The Godfather, Kamala, etc. I had to really come to terms with myself with buying a '99 Savage. Not excited about his treatment of women during that period, work or not. I understand that my son will be exposed to ignorance and injustice but as a responsible father, my job is to teach him that it is wrong, regardless of whether people "forget" or not. I hear what you are saying about parenting, (and the point made about Austin, Snuka, Chyna, etc. is very well made). How about teaching your son about forgiveness? Hogan might be the only person on that list who has actually apologized. How about telling your son about all of the Make-A-Wish visits Hogan made? I want the figures, HOF recognition, occasional appearance. I also really want Hogan doing interviews on the Network, and Hulk Hogan's Rock 'n' Wrestling back on the Network as well. That's a solid point. Not a terrible idea.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jan 14, 2017 22:06:42 GMT -5
"Suburban Commando" Hulk for Comic-Con.
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Post by jacguitarist on Jan 14, 2017 22:51:12 GMT -5
I've always lived by the philosophy that actions speak louder than words.
I know at the time, WWE had to do what was "best for business", and I don't even necessarily disagree with their firing of Hogan when that tape was released...but it was incredibly hypocritical. Here you have someone that was punished for something they said (albeit, they were awful remarks) in private and unknowingly filmed. But at the same time, they're able to support other superstars that have done equally, if not far worse things. Most notably is Stone Cold, who is treated like a God, and pretty much has been since he struck it big. Now again, what Hogan said was very bad, but to me beating your wife is far worse. Others have mentioned Warrior and that crazy crap he's spewed over the years...but they give an award out in his name to children that are ill?
Just very odd stuff to think about, and it's all been discussed at length for sure. But I for one hope that Hogan's on his way back and I certainly don't mind admitting it's in part to wanting all those figures we missed out on. I don't think there's anything wrong with that...especially since, you know, we're on a wrestling figure forum. At the end of the day, it all comes down to anything else in life; if you don't like it, you don't have to and you don't have to buy it.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jan 15, 2017 5:18:28 GMT -5
Also, his comments were way off base. I think in the midst of all of this we are forgetting what a racist a hole this dude really is. Apologies or not, a couple years down the road I don't want my son to Google this dude that he idolizes because he saw him on The Network and on Raw only to find that the search results yield information on a sex tape and a racial slur laced rant. Well, the leaked sex tape wasn't his fault - and I really don't think he is a racist a-hole... this was a private conversation when he was at the lowest point in his life and worried about his daughter. True, his comments were stupid and out of line, but that doesn't take away his achievements as a wrestler and all the great things he has done with kids and fans over the years... At the end of the day, who hasn't said/done regrettable things in private or in the heat of the moment? "Let he who is without sin..." and all that... Will you be serious!! (Sorry just a gorilla reference.) I agree we need this era Hogan! I know I'm in the minority but I'd rather more 85-93 Hogan than his later years. But I'd gladly buy every Hogan. I'd consider hogan complete if they just made a dm Hollywood hogan from his nwo run and prime hogan from wrestle mania 5 or 6 ...no Tie-dye/Hulk Still Rules figure? I consider them (classic/NWO/Still Rules) the three main Hogan looks. And surely, prime Hogan was '85-'87/body-slamming Andre...
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Post by beast on Jan 15, 2017 12:55:36 GMT -5
You know who else made racial remarks? The Ultimate Warrior. Not only that, but he also made anti-homosexual remarks in the same public speech that he KNEW could have been recorded. But he's been painted as a saint in spite of this as well as how he was to deal with, so that's just groovy I guess. I'm not knocking Warrior for this, people make mistakes, people stay stupid things, but people change. People could and should be given the chance to make amends, as Warrior and countless others were. There's a definite double standard here. People have said and done much MUCH worse, and I'm not here to drag all of those people through the mud every time this gets brought up, but if it's Hogan 'OH I DON'T WANT MY POOR, DEAR, SWEET SON TO SEE HIM ON THE NETWORK OR TV AND GOOGLE HIM AND FIND OUT THAT PEOPLE ARE HUMAN AND MAKE AWFUL MISTAKES!! OH HE SHOULD BE THROWN OUT FOR GOOD AND ERASED FROM HISTORY SO OTHER LEGENDS WHO DIDN'T MEAN A FRACTION AS MUCH TO THE BUSINESS GET THEIR MERCH OUT....AND MY POOR, SWEET, DEAR SON CAN BE SHIELDED FROM THE SORDID TRUTH AND REMAIN IN HIS LITTLE SAFETY BUBBLE FORRRREVEEEERRRRRRR!' My God. Your son is probably a smart kid, and he's growing up in the digital age. He's going to figure this stuff out on his own and make his own judgment whether or not Hogan makes an occasional appearance, and Hogan is definitely going to be all over the Network for as long as it's around. Whether or not you have figures of people like Chyna and X-Pac or Steve Austin, or Snuka, or Jake Roberts, or Scott Hall, or Warrior, or Andre, or Lawler, or Dynamite, or anyone else who have or have been alleged to have done terrible things is beside the point. Whether they apologize or not, that's not good enough for you obviously. People make mistakes, people repent, but you clearly will never forgive a human being for saying something awful in a colloquial manner that he didn't know was being recorded ten years ago. I've said worse than that, obviously we could never get along because to you everything I've ever said at any point of my life and in any setting is expressive of exactly how I do and will always feel for the rest of my life. Your reasoning is skewed, and if you actually respected what Hogan did in the business then you would know that he should always have a place in the house that he helped build, whether he's featured or not. Get over yourself, brother. You're right. We could never get along.
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Post by beast on Jan 15, 2017 13:02:26 GMT -5
You're right. We could never get along. . I'm with ya I think it's crap most of these people forget about Booker Tusing the "N" word and I quote"Hulk Hogan , we gonna get you n;@@&$!!! But I guess it's ok for him cause he is of another color!!!! Nothing was done to him for that remark, we all have said things in the past that we regret or did not mean to say , yes is hogan time come and gone , I agree but he is an integral part of wrestling history and cannot be erased so bring him back st least on a legends deal. And to all you sappy ow he hurt my feelings, my kid will be scared for life , you can't do that it's politically incorrect, you addendum me, I say F- you and the horse you rode in on .......quit being a **** , raise your kids with some Balls cause I would Piss all over your feelings , your weak ..Grow up and suck it up......
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Post by kiloinnorcal on Jan 15, 2017 13:02:55 GMT -5
Also, his comments were way off base. I think in the midst of all of this we are forgetting what a racist a hole this dude really is. Apologies or not, a couple years down the road I don't want my son to Google this dude that he idolizes because he saw him on The Network and on Raw only to find that the search results yield information on a sex tape and a racial slur laced rant. Well, the leaked sex tape wasn't his fault - and I really don't think he is a racist a-hole... this was a private conversation when he was at the lowest point in his life and worried about his daughter. True, his comments were stupid and out of line, but that doesn't take away his achievements as a wrestler and all the great things he has done with kids and fans over the years... At the end of the day, who hasn't said/done regrettable things in private or in the heat of the moment? "Let he who is without sin..." and all that... I'd consider hogan complete if they just made a dm Hollywood hogan from his nwo run and prime hogan from wrestle mania 5 or 6 ...no Tie-dye/Hulk Still Rules figure? I consider them (classic/NWO/Still Rules) the three main Hogan looks. And surely, prime Hogan was '85-'87/body-slamming Andre... The fact that Hogan's "prime" can be debated just goes to show what an icon of the industry he is. I believe his WWF prime goes from defeating shiek to all the way until he left for WCW. Greatest face of all time. Then in WCW he created the Hollywood character which may be the greatest heel character ever. So you have a guy who may very well be 1. The most known wrestler ever. 2. The greatest face ever. 3. The greatest heel ever. You don't have to like the man, Terry, but you can't deny the accomplishments of Hulk. He will be back by Wrestlemania, bring on the figures!
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 15, 2017 13:08:06 GMT -5
Was there even plans to make a DM Hollywood Hogan? I mean they never showed a prototype
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Post by kiloinnorcal on Jan 15, 2017 13:45:29 GMT -5
Was there even plans to make a DM Hollywood Hogan? I mean they never showed a prototype They announced a Hollywood Hogan at sdcc a few years back before the suspension. Theres a computer mock up Mattel displayed. Everyone assumed it was a DM due to the accesories.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Jan 15, 2017 14:19:04 GMT -5
wanting someone back just for a figure is sad Having "Randy Orton as your only idol" makes your dad sad "forever" ouch. On a side note, how did a thread about a possible DM figure turn into a heated racial debate about ethics and parenting? Only on Wfigs 🤔🙄
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Post by Medieval on Jan 15, 2017 14:19:26 GMT -5
Was there even plans to make a DM Hollywood Hogan? I mean they never showed a prototype They announced a Hollywood Hogan at sdcc a few years back before the suspension. Theres a computer mock up Mattel displayed. Everyone assumed it was a DM due to the accesories. He was slated to be the DM after the Undetaker. Bill told us that. But instead we got the Austin with the 3 belts that I still see on shelves in my area.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 16:00:18 GMT -5
It's a matter of time before he's in wwe's presence again. I mean they can't banish him forever. He did serve his time away from... Wwe sort of like a suspension.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jan 15, 2017 16:18:06 GMT -5
Was there even plans to make a DM Hollywood Hogan? I mean they never showed a prototype
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Jan 15, 2017 16:21:43 GMT -5
Having "Randy Orton as your only idol" makes your dad sad "forever" ouch. On a side note, how did a thread about a possible DM figure turn into a heated racial debate about ethics and parenting? Only on Wfigs 🤔🙄 Your right. Only on Wfigs
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jan 15, 2017 16:26:19 GMT -5
Was there even plans to make a DM Hollywood Hogan? I mean they never showed a prototype Ah what could have been :-(
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Post by ZDB on Jan 15, 2017 16:38:38 GMT -5
Was there even plans to make a DM Hollywood Hogan? I mean they never showed a prototype Where have you been..
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