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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 27, 2017 10:13:45 GMT -5
mattel isn't going anywhere but if they lost the license I think it would be a dream come true (for me anyway) if NECA got the license. for pretty much the same price you would most likely get multiple accessories and possibly alternate heads not to mention superior sculpting and paint apps...wont happen but I can dream right NECA makes better figures, but the problem with NECA is that if they made the WWE line we would only get like 20 figures a year. With the need to always have big names in the assortment (Cena, Orton, Undertaker, Triple H), you could forget about ever getting most of the mid card wrestlers and it would literally take forever for a new wrestler to get a figure, and there would be Legends/Flashbacks that they would just never be able to get to. You'd never get a Tugboat, a Magnum TA, a Junkyard Dog, etc, because every Legend Flashback spot would be going to Ultimate Warror, Macho Man, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin etc. I think NECA would make much better and more realistic looking wrestling figures and the accessories and multiple heads and hands would literally be a dream come true, like you said....but In order to have accurate WWE rosters, we need to get way more figures much more quickly than that.
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Post by master of the WORLD! on Jan 27, 2017 10:47:39 GMT -5
yeah def true Lorenzo, I honestly would prob be ok w that. quality over quantity at this point for me. I already cut back on the mattel stuff by 90% I think I buy 1 figure per every 2 sets now
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Post by xtremebadass on Jan 27, 2017 12:27:32 GMT -5
Mattel's line from 2010-present has been the most impressive line of wrestling figures ever released. You can argue that Jakks had a bigger list of classic names, but their quality and overall product knocks them down a few pegs.
The amount of characters Mattel has released past and present over this 6+ years has truly been amazing.
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Post by powerfred3k on Jan 27, 2017 13:11:03 GMT -5
Mattel makes great figures that your lucky to find in a retail store. How is this a good thing ? If Mattel actually made a real effort to improve there awful and I mean God awful distribution I would say resign mattel for 100 years.
Neca makes much better figures that I have no problem finding in store. For the $20-$25 price point it's no contest. Give Neca the WWE license and have them hire a bunch of new people to accommodate.
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Post by erikg on Jan 27, 2017 13:59:26 GMT -5
I fully expect that Mattels run with Legends/Flashbacks will be the last true run. JAKKS got a lot of older collectors back in and Mattel has retained some of those however another shift and I think that will stick a fork in most older collectors. As we get into things like families, bills, homes etc...more and more figures become less of a priority. Sure you'll stick your big names like Austin, Rock, HBK, Hogan etc in there but we'll likely never see another line consisting of JYD or Honky Tonk Man. Why wouldn't a new generation of collectors that think Cena and Orton are old school come along to take their place?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 14:47:49 GMT -5
mattel isn't going anywhere but if they lost the license I think it would be a dream come true (for me anyway) if NECA got the license. for pretty much the same price you would most likely get multiple accessories and possibly alternate heads not to mention superior sculpting and paint apps...wont happen but I can dream right NECA was my first thought, but you're right, we can only dream. Not dissing Mattel at all though
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jan 27, 2017 14:58:35 GMT -5
Even though I seem to buy less and less as the years go by, I would still cry if Mattel stopped. I wont be starting all over again that's for sure. I want to still get excited for an odd first time in line figure or another macho man and surfer sting once in a while.
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Post by master of the WORLD! on Jan 27, 2017 16:27:34 GMT -5
the main reason Im more selective with the mattel stuff now is because of the high quality higher end stuff that's out. ive been buying a lot more import figures and 1/6 scale. rather than buying 3 mattel figures that are just ok ill buy one that's outstanding. for domestic stuff I buy a lot of neca now.
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Post by #HANDSOME1 on Jan 27, 2017 23:06:52 GMT -5
Don't even wanna think about that. Jakks last few series were horrible....
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Jan 28, 2017 10:33:31 GMT -5
If anything Mattel would start to get better to impress WWE to resign again. I think what you ment was Mattel should always do better to STAY signed. Your comment is better than mine. Your so right
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 10:47:19 GMT -5
mattel isn't going anywhere but if they lost the license I think it would be a dream come true (for me anyway) if NECA got the license. for pretty much the same price you would most likely get multiple accessories and possibly alternate heads not to mention superior sculpting and paint apps...wont happen but I can dream right NECA makes better figures, but the problem with NECA is that if they made the WWE line we would only get like 20 figures a year. With the need to always have big names in the assortment (Cena, Orton, Undertaker, Triple H), you could forget about ever getting most of the mid card wrestlers and it would literally take forever for a new wrestler to get a figure, and there would be Legends/Flashbacks that they would just never be able to get to. You'd never get a Tugboat, a Magnum TA, a Junkyard Dog, etc, because every Legend Flashback spot would be going to Ultimate Warror, Macho Man, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin etc. I think NECA would make much better and more realistic looking wrestling figures and the accessories and multiple heads and hands would literally be a dream come true, like you said....but In order to have accurate WWE rosters, we need to get way more figures much more quickly than that. NECA would never do a WWE line unless it was like you said "Macho man, Warrior,Hogan,HHH ,etc". But I doubt we would even get 20 a year, they would probably do like 5-6 a year. real question here is, will Mattel stick with selling WWE merchandise? Guess it all depends on if they make good money off of it. Bill always seems to wanna make shortcuts when making wwe figures to stay with "budget".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 10:48:21 GMT -5
But I honestly hate seeing Mattel take these little short cuts in things, like say the new DM Flair with the wrong kinda knee pads and the RF on the wrong side. I hate when Bill claims they did it to stay with budget. Seems like a scape goat to me.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jan 28, 2017 10:54:09 GMT -5
But I honestly hate seeing Mattel take these little short cuts in things, like say the new DM Flair with the wrong kinda knee pads and the RF on the wrong side. I hate when Bill claims they did it to stay with budget. Seems like a scape goat to me. Put this thought to test, the refference photos could have been mirrored.
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Post by powerfred3k on Jan 28, 2017 14:17:27 GMT -5
NECA makes better figures, but the problem with NECA is that if they made the WWE line we would only get like 20 figures a year. With the need to always have big names in the assortment (Cena, Orton, Undertaker, Triple H), you could forget about ever getting most of the mid card wrestlers and it would literally take forever for a new wrestler to get a figure, and there would be Legends/Flashbacks that they would just never be able to get to. You'd never get a Tugboat, a Magnum TA, a Junkyard Dog, etc, because every Legend Flashback spot would be going to Ultimate Warror, Macho Man, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin etc. I think NECA would make much better and more realistic looking wrestling figures and the accessories and multiple heads and hands would literally be a dream come true, like you said....but In order to have accurate WWE rosters, we need to get way more figures much more quickly than that. NECA would never do a WWE line unless it was like you said "Macho man, Warrior,Hogan,HHH ,etc". But I doubt we would even get 20 a year, they would probably do like 5-6 a year. real question here is, will Mattel stick with selling WWE merchandise? Guess it all depends on if they make good money off of it. Bill always seems to wanna make shortcuts when making wwe figures to stay with "budget". I'm sorry but did Bill not mention "mattel actually wants to remove articulation from the figures" and "he's fighting hard to keep the articulation" in a q&a video a few years ago. Then 6 months basics started getting bonus belts and now bonus slammys because of poor sales with the exact same articulation. I am so sick and tired of hearing, can't do this and can't do that because its "not in the budget". Stop putting regular elite figures in defining moment boxes and charging an extra $5 more. Stop saying one thing and doing another like this "Cancelled" wcw elite 4 pack. Seriously Bill/Mattel what do you pay the workers at your factory in china ?? 10 cents an hour, $1 an hour ?? Give Neca the WWE figure license please I am begging you WWE. There product is much better, more accessories with figures, better quality, and best of all i can actually find them in store. But lets say I miss out on a figure, Neca has its own ebay and amazon page i can order direct from them to avoid scalpers. I just today bought an Neca Predator 2 Ultimate City Hunter from toysrus for $25 with 10 accessories and an extra head. Now for the same $25 i can get an ultimate warrior defining moment figure with removeable sunglasses. People need to stop settling and demand better.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jan 28, 2017 16:15:50 GMT -5
NECA doesn't make durable figures, Mattel does. These figures are made to be played with; I play with them. Mattel has been ideal, excellent for a mass produced product; they have a great variety. Look at the Retro line, it is amazing; it is something a company like NECA would never do. If the license changed hands I would probably take a huge step back in collecting. I at least hope we get elites of Hollywood, Roderick Strong, and Bobby Roode, before the end; I am sure I am forgetting some but those are my top wants.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 28, 2017 19:17:20 GMT -5
NECA would never do a WWE line unless it was like you said "Macho man, Warrior,Hogan,HHH ,etc". But I doubt we would even get 20 a year, they would probably do like 5-6 a year. real question here is, will Mattel stick with selling WWE merchandise? Guess it all depends on if they make good money off of it. Bill always seems to wanna make shortcuts when making wwe figures to stay with "budget". I'm sorry but did Bill not mention "mattel actually wants to remove articulation from the figures" and "he's fighting hard to keep the articulation" in a q&a video a few years ago. Then 6 months basics started getting bonus belts and now bonus slammys because of poor sales with the exact same articulation. I am so sick and tired of hearing, can't do this and can't do that because its "not in the budget". Stop putting regular elite figures in defining moment boxes and charging an extra $5 more. Stop saying one thing and doing another like this "Cancelled" wcw elite 4 pack. Seriously Bill/Mattel what do you pay the workers at your factory in china ?? 10 cents an hour, $1 an hour ?? Give Neca the WWE figure license please I am begging you WWE. There product is much better, more accessories with figures, better quality, and best of all i can actually find them in store. But lets say I miss out on a figure, Neca has its own ebay and amazon page i can order direct from them to avoid scalpers. What a bizarre, foundless post. If NECA had the WWE toy license, we would all just complain that there are only a dozen WWE figures a year being made, and that they all break whenever they're played with. A company like NECA is not set up to produce toys every month of a large, ever-changing wrestling roster. And if they did change to accommodate that, it would alter the way their product is made and you would be complaining that they cut corners on WWE compared to their Ash vs Evil Dead figures etc.
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Post by drewcifer on Jan 28, 2017 23:18:19 GMT -5
I don't think WWE would ever walk away from the planet's leading toy manufacturer. One thing I COULD see them doing is poaching Bill and some others and taking their production in-house. It'd be dumb, but it's something I could see them doing...
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Post by kgchampion on Jan 31, 2017 4:20:16 GMT -5
Mattel isn't going to lose/drop the license. It's Mattel. They're a behemoth. The only company that could take the license from them is Hasbro. Maybe. I doubt Mattel would let that happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 10:41:41 GMT -5
They will probably make a new deal before 2019. Wwe need mattel, mattel doesn't need wwe. Dont think they'd want to leave the largest toy company. THIS I doubt very much that WWE and Mattel's relationship will end in the year 2019. I would imagine the figures sell very well and does anyone remember Jakks home stretch? Naked Mark Henry....naked...Mark Henry
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Post by rustyjohnson on Jan 31, 2017 11:16:53 GMT -5
I fully expect that Mattels run with Legends/Flashbacks will be the last true run. JAKKS got a lot of older collectors back in and Mattel has retained some of those however another shift and I think that will stick a fork in most older collectors. As we get into things like families, bills, homes etc...more and more figures become less of a priority. Sure you'll stick your big names like Austin, Rock, HBK, Hogan etc in there but we'll likely never see another line consisting of JYD or Honky Tonk Man. Total agreement. Turning 40 this year, there will be no new collection on my end. 80's stars will all be dead and buried in 10 years (and so will our musicians and actors apparently too - it's the end of the world people and god has been busy taking the good first, It's a BIG job...) and this is the last kick at the cat.
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