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Post by TheLastDude on Jan 26, 2017 22:58:09 GMT -5
They shouldnt have taken Nia, Bliss, Carmella. Bayley all at once as it damaged the nxt womens division significantly and there is a huge gap between Asuka and the rest so theres so no one worthy of being champ other than Asuka. No reason to hold people back just to keep stars in NXT. It's supposed to be a developmental area, so when someone gets big they get called up to the majors. Them's the breaks.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Jan 26, 2017 23:03:23 GMT -5
They shouldnt have taken Nia, Bliss, Carmella. Bayley all at once as it damaged the nxt womens division significantly and there is a huge gap between Asuka and the rest so theres so no one worthy of being champ other than Asuka. No reason to hold people back just to keep stars in NXT. It's supposed to be a developmental area, so when someone gets big they get called up to the majors. Them's the breaks. If only wwe could still create talent instead of the running low sign Indy guy formula.
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Post by TheLastDude on Jan 26, 2017 23:06:51 GMT -5
No reason to hold people back just to keep stars in NXT. It's supposed to be a developmental area, so when someone gets big they get called up to the majors. Them's the breaks. If only wwe could still create talent instead of the running low sign Indy guy formula.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 26, 2017 23:10:00 GMT -5
HHH is right. Since all the big call ups, NXT has fallen majorly flat. Its still very good, but no where near as hot as it once was.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Jan 26, 2017 23:28:29 GMT -5
Their main event scene is great Nakamura, Joe, Bobby Roode
The problem is they cant make a new star to replace people when they get called up to WWE quick enough, I think if they had more talent and a slightly longer show they could feature the main talents like Nakamura, Joe, and Bobby Rude. but also build guys like No Way Jose, Cien Almas, Rodrick Strong, Ty Dillinger etc for me the wrestling is great but theres no reason for me to buy into these guys characters especially the tag teams (bar revival). the reason they top 3 guys are at the top is because they were huge names before NXT.
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 27, 2017 7:02:22 GMT -5
Since NXT is a feeder fed (albeit a DAMN entertaining one?) this is its nature. Its purpose is to groom its guys for the Main rosters....the prospects out there are getting a little thin....and yeah that's an issue for sure.
Rood and Nakamura wont be there for too long either......
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 27, 2017 10:33:00 GMT -5
The problem is that the fans, and I think Triple H to an extent, see NXT as its own brand. In reality, and to Vince McMahon who is the only opinion that matters...NXT is nothing more than developmental and its only purpose is to groom talent for RAW and Smackdown, and now 205 Live.
Let's look at it in terms of Major League Baseball. No franchise in baseball starts the season with the goal of having the best AA and AAA teams. If you have great young players that are ready for the MLB level, regardless of how much success you minor league affiliats are having, you will break up those teams to bring your young future stars up to the main roster.
It sucks for NXT fans, because the fans and like I said, Triple H to an extent, turned this into almost a competition between NXT and the main roster....but if a wrestler can help RAW or Smackdown, you are not going to intentionally hold them down in NXT just to make NXT better. It doesn't make sense. Yes, it hurts NXT's entertainment value, but RAW and Smackdown are your money makers. It's not good for business to prevent a star from shining on the big stage.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jan 27, 2017 11:50:41 GMT -5
Why not send some guys back down? Tyler Breeze The Accension The Vaudevillains Apollo Crews
Those guys are well liked by fans and shone on NXT so if they can make NXT better then go for it. No matter what happens Samoa Joe will be leaving soon and that will leave a huge gap.
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Post by k5 on Jan 27, 2017 12:55:35 GMT -5
i don't think guys should regularly backtrack to nxt. alex riley was an exception.
it almost reminds me of ecw, after their talent had been raided by wcw and wwf. only that was the plan for nxt all along since it's a developmental promotion at it's core.
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Post by That 80s Guy on Jan 27, 2017 13:28:06 GMT -5
-- I look at it as a 'glass half full' perspective; if all these stars are getting called up, that means NXT is doing something right. They're laying the foundation for these stars, and allowing them to begin flourishing into early stages of this "ecosystem". Then when they've reached a certain progression, that NXT glass ceiling opens up for those stars to continue flourishing beyond for the entire world to see, on one of the main rosters. So from where I'm sitting, NXT's greenhouse is looking very pretty.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 13:53:57 GMT -5
Either they're ready, or WWE needs more names. American Alpha, Nia Jax, Alexa Bliss, Mojo Rawley, Carmella... all names that weren't ready for the main roster.
However, WWE is trying to force it to work.
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Post by hCo.Bro™ [brandon_lee] on Jan 27, 2017 14:00:57 GMT -5
Last year injuries around this time really sped things up. I agree though with sending some guys back down. They also did it with Kidd and Ryder. Crews is another that in no shape or form should have been called up yet. At just 27, I would be doing everything under the sun to help progress Almas. He's got the tools plus young enough to invest in.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jan 27, 2017 14:20:37 GMT -5
I mean he's not wrong. Anyone can see that NXT has taken a drastic step back. While it does suck, that's really what NXT was created for. So this is most likely not the last time NXT will have to rebuild. That being said, I'm very interested in seeing what they have planned next. Time to do some hiring and some repackaging. To me though I'd say the reason NXT had taken that step back is not because they lost so many top stars, it's because they didn't build anybody else up when those stars were there. Who did Finn put over on the way out? Joe and Shinsuke? As if they needed it. Sasha put over Bayley put over Asuka. That's how it's supposed to work. On the men's side, Rollins put over Big E put over Bo put over Neville put over Sami... then they got in this holding pattern with established stars. Owens, Finn, Joe, Shinsuke.. None of them need to be in NXT so there shouldn't be so much effort put into building them. Make appearances by them a rarity, while spotlighting the up-and-comers.
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Post by T R W on Jan 27, 2017 14:51:14 GMT -5
NXT shouldn't be awesome anyway. Once wrestlers are seasoned there, there is no reason for them to be there anymore. It is and should be a developmental territory. Keeping people that are main roster ready will just stifle the people who need the work and experience.
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Post by hbkowns on Jan 27, 2017 14:51:51 GMT -5
Your developmental systems should never be bigger than your main roster. Never.
The only reason it did is that Triple H signed guys who were already stars around the Indy scene, who had no business being in developmental for that long. Yes it has it's own show, but at the end of the day it's just developmental. Guys like Finn Balor or Samoa Joe shouldn't be in developmental for nearly 2 years just because that system needs stars. In the process their losing money that they could make on the main roster. From what I've read a developmental contract, even with guys who are signed from the indies, still get tremendously pay lower than what they can make on the main roster. They even sometimes take a pay cut signing with WWE.
NXT reached it's peak, but it's still good. It's a feeder system and should stay that way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 14:59:31 GMT -5
Guys like Finn, Owens, Nakamura, etc. DO need to be in developmental for various different reasons. Most notably being name recognition.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 27, 2017 16:44:02 GMT -5
I mean he's not wrong. Anyone can see that NXT has taken a drastic step back. While it does suck, that's really what NXT was created for. So this is most likely not the last time NXT will have to rebuild. That being said, I'm very interested in seeing what they have planned next. Time to do some hiring and some repackaging. To me though I'd say the reason NXT had taken that step back is not because they lost so many top stars, it's because they didn't build anybody else up when those stars were there. Who did Finn put over on the way out? Joe and Shinsuke? As if they needed it. Sasha put over Bayley put over Asuka. That's how it's supposed to work. On the men's side, Rollins put over Big E put over Bo put over Neville put over Sami... then they got in this holding pattern with established stars. Owens, Finn, Joe, Shinsuke.. None of them need to be in NXT so there shouldn't be so much effort put into building them. Make appearances by them a rarity, while spotlighting the up-and-comers. I can't argue with any of that.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Jan 27, 2017 17:32:01 GMT -5
I'll go all the way back to Unstoppable and say the weekly shows have been hit and miss since.
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Post by BØRNS on Jan 27, 2017 20:29:08 GMT -5
The problem is that the fans, and I think Triple H to an extent, see NXT as its own brand. In reality, and to Vince McMahon who is the only opinion that matters...NXT is nothing more than developmental and its only purpose is to groom talent for RAW and Smackdown, and now 205 Live. Let's look at it in terms of Major League Baseball. No franchise in baseball starts the season with the goal of having the best AA and AAA teams. If you have great young players that are ready for the MLB level, regardless of how much success you minor league affiliats are having, you will break up those teams to bring your young future stars up to the main roster. It sucks for NXT fans, because the fans and like I said, Triple H to an extent, turned this into almost a competition between NXT and the main roster....but if a wrestler can help RAW or Smackdown, you are not going to intentionally hold them down in NXT just to make NXT better. It doesn't make sense. Yes, it hurts NXT's entertainment value, but RAW and Smackdown are your money makers. It's not good for business to prevent a star from shining on the big stage. But is IS good business when NXT is exclusive to the Network and maintaining popular names there will give a reason for people to subscribe to see them, rather than watch on free TV and not pay to subscribe.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jan 27, 2017 21:50:36 GMT -5
It will be fine with Ohno, End, Sanity, Strong, DIY, TM61, Etc holding it down for a while.
Plus the heavy rumors of Kyle O'Reilly, Adam Cole, and Ricochet coming in this year NXT will be arguably better than it ever was before.
Takeover Brooklyn this year could potentially be one of the greatest shows of all time depending on who comes in when.
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