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Post by bigshab421 on Jan 31, 2017 8:51:23 GMT -5
I think Okada's "Rainmaker" clothesline is a weak finisher imo, and hurt the match, because the knees Omega landed on him looked 10x more brutal than those clotheslines.
Cena/AJ was amazing but I think it is hard to compare the two because it is a totally different style of pro-wrestling. End of the day it is all preference, there's no scientific way to claim a winner
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Post by McBlake on Jan 31, 2017 9:01:35 GMT -5
Why are they getting so defensive? No one else allowed to put on a good match ever again?
Seems like they're believing the hype and are getting rather big headed about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 9:24:52 GMT -5
I think Okada's "Rainmaker" clothesline is a weak finisher imo, and hurt the match, because the knees Omega landed on him looked 10x more brutal than those clotheslines. Cena/AJ was amazing but I think it is hard to compare the two because it is a totally different style of pro-wrestling. End of the day it is all preference, there's no scientific way to claim a winner AJ's finisher is a flying forearm. Cena's is a fireman's carry. I don't care for the Rainmaker Clothesline either, but I mean... c'mon.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 31, 2017 9:29:42 GMT -5
I really don't think they are comparable. WWE and NJPW deliver a completely different product. I don't see how one of two different things could be better than the other.
NJPW presents their product as if the match is a legit sporting event. WWE is like a soap opera and the characters often possess super hero style attributes.
I think each match was amazing for what it was intended to be. But just like you shouldn't compare an X-men movie to a Documentary about something...you really shouldn't compare WWE and NJPW because they are attempting to present two completely different products.
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Post by bigshab421 on Jan 31, 2017 9:38:17 GMT -5
I think Okada's "Rainmaker" clothesline is a weak finisher imo, and hurt the match, because the knees Omega landed on him looked 10x more brutal than those clotheslines. Cena/AJ was amazing but I think it is hard to compare the two because it is a totally different style of pro-wrestling. End of the day it is all preference, there's no scientific way to claim a winner AJ's finisher is a flying forearm. Cena's is a fireman's carry. I don't care for the Rainmaker Clothesline either, but I mean... c'mon. I get where you're coming from, just an opinion. Maybe thats why they always make AJ/Cena use multiple finishers
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 31, 2017 10:00:29 GMT -5
AJ's finisher is a flying forearm. Cena's is a fireman's carry. I don't care for the Rainmaker Clothesline either, but I mean... c'mon. I get where you're coming from, just an opinion. Maybe thats why they always make AJ/Cena use multiple finishers That's why Okada hit the Rainmaker like 4 times. It's the same logic. Had Kenny hit the OWA, it likely would have, in theory, been over. That was part of the story they were telling at the end of the match.
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Post by tiny04 on Jan 31, 2017 10:18:52 GMT -5
Imagine being so much of a big headed dick that you actually say on twitter "my match was better than your match".
I watched both and enjoyed Cena/AJ was more. The first 20 or so minutes of Okada/Omega were extremely dull.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Jan 31, 2017 10:23:54 GMT -5
Enjoyed both matches but preferred the WK11 main event.
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Post by King of Kings on Jan 31, 2017 10:37:23 GMT -5
My fake fight was better than yours. Jesus, why are they so defensive about this? Be happy for your peers wanting to compete with you, not bitter and jealous.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Jan 31, 2017 10:51:45 GMT -5
Is he in character or just being an ass? Why doesn't he go to wwe if he thinks he could do better?
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Jan 31, 2017 11:31:48 GMT -5
I didn't watch O/vs/O but I did see Cena/vs/Styles.
I loved the match but still don't understand the slow pace from the get go. I think it was the first slam in the match and it took days to get back up when usually it's a few slams traded with both men quickly getting back to their feet and THEN they get tired out. Just seemed to be very slow and winded pace throughout the match. Not taking anything away from it but it seemed off as if they were trying to take longer to fill up time.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Jan 31, 2017 11:35:30 GMT -5
Also, as much as I really dislike Reigns or more accurately the way he's handled, him and AJs matches (even though the result was shit) were far better imo.
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Post by BSR on Jan 31, 2017 12:42:39 GMT -5
Way over hyped. Nothing special about the guy at all. Now that's just not true. That's just how I feel about the guy myself Now that's just not true. Ignore him. He makes this same post in every Omega related thread. Next he's going to tell you he's seen a bunch of matches he's most definitely never watched and that's going to be the extent of his cool guy argument. Among the bullet club members I'd prefer to watch Yujiro over omega. Kenny omega literally does nothing for me. Hes not the huge star he thinks hr is, and Adam Cole even is far superior to him to a point to where he should be hyped this much over omega. But what do I know.. clearly you see my bank statements and new Japan world isn't on there or anything. Now okada. Yeah. Hes special. He deserves the hype. Omega hell no. He doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 12:48:59 GMT -5
Kenny Omega can sell on the level of Dolph Ziggler and is as crisp as they come in the ring. This dating back to his ROH work, which is what I've seen from him first. Not to mention, he's one of the best heels NJPW has seen in quite some time.
I can get not being a fan of his, but to claim he's nothing special... yet somehow Adam Cole and Kazuchika Okada are, is just silly.
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Post by BSR on Jan 31, 2017 13:01:30 GMT -5
Kenny Omega can sell on the level of Dolph Ziggler and is as crisp as they come in the ring. This dating back to his ROH work, which is what I've seen from him first. Not to mention, he's one of the best heels NJPW has seen in quite some time. I can get not being a fan of his, but to claim he's nothing special... yet somehow Adam Cole and Kazuchika Okada are, is just silly. That's just how I feel man. Something has always bugged me about omega.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 13:37:31 GMT -5
I don't like Omega. Never have. Never will. Glad he stayed in Japan so I don't have to worry about watching his annoying ass.
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Post by Rob on Jan 31, 2017 15:20:48 GMT -5
Lol@ Omega on his own dick about his match, Then getting butthurt when someone doesnt agree. Okada/Omega wasn't a 6 star match. It was a complete snoozefest the first half of it then it started turning into a spot fest the second half. We've see it before, It brought nothing new to the table and it accomplished nothing in the end. A huge part of a "legendary match" is the build behind it and providing a "moment".
Styles/Cena at SS blew Okada/Omega out of the water, Cena/Styles III at the RR matched Okada/Omega if not slightly passed it. It wasn't better than their SS match but the build to it was top notch and it gave Cena the record tying win.
Some of the spot monkeys in Japan need to understand that going out there and putting on long drawn out workrate matches every night doesnt mean jackcrap to the majority.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 15:43:55 GMT -5
Lol@ Omega on his own dick about his match, Then getting butthurt when someone doesnt agree. Okada/Omega wasn't a 6 star match. It was a complete snoozefest the first half of it then it started turning into a spot fest the second half. We've see it before, It brought nothing new to the table and it accomplished nothing in the end. A huge part of a "legendary match" is the build behind it and providing a "moment". Styles/Cena at SS blew Okada/Omega out of the water, Cena/Styles III at the RR matched Okada/Omega if not slightly passed it. It wasn't better than their SS match but the build to it was top notch and it gave Cena the record tying win. Some of the spot monkeys in Japan need to understand that going out there and putting on long drawn out workrate matches every night doesnt mean jackcrap to the majority. Interesting. That match made him the hottest talked about wrestler in the business for a few weeks... but yeah, didn't mean jack to the majority.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 16:02:47 GMT -5
Triple S confirmed to be Kenny Omega?
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Post by Rude Awakening on Jan 31, 2017 16:32:26 GMT -5
Joke question
Avocado and Omelet clearly had the better match
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