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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 31, 2017 15:51:52 GMT -5
Since when did "RAW will have no Champion" become an actual complaint. You're not supposed to see the champion every week. Once a month works easily. He's a high profile guy at that point and has no reason to show up every week. Let the lower individuals fight for the right to face him then have him show up weekly to build against his opponent. I say a couple PPVS without the world championship on the line would do the company and title some good. Shine some light on the US or IC title for once and make it more rare to see the World Title. Just my.opinion though of course. That being said I don't want to see Lesnar or Oldberg with the title. We already saw Brock as champion for 200+ days where he was never around. It didn't help elevate anyone from the midcard. This theory was put to the test and failed. In fact, if you could name more than one guy who held the US and IC Title during that time, without looking it up, I'd be impressed. |
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Jan 31, 2017 15:57:02 GMT -5
Since when did "RAW will have no Champion" become an actual complaint. You're not supposed to see the champion every week. Once a month works easily. He's a high profile guy at that point and has no reason to show up every week. Let the lower individuals fight for the right to face him then have him show up weekly to build against his opponent. I say a couple PPVS without the world championship on the line would do the company and title some good. Shine some light on the US or IC title for once and make it more rare to see the World Title. Just my.opinion though of course. That being said I don't want to see Lesnar or Oldberg with the title. We already saw Brock as champion for 200+ days where he was never around. It didn't help elevate anyone from the midcard. This theory was put to the test and failed. In fact, if you could name more than one guy who held the US and IC Title during that time, without looking it up, I'd be impressed. wwe screwing up a good idea happens on a daily basis, doesn't mean the theory or idea failed, it means the execution was terrible. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 16:10:47 GMT -5
Since when did "RAW will have no Champion" become an actual complaint. You're not supposed to see the champion every week. Once a month works easily. He's a high profile guy at that point and has no reason to show up every week. Let the lower individuals fight for the right to face him then have him show up weekly to build against his opponent. I say a couple PPVS without the world championship on the line would do the company and title some good. Shine some light on the US or IC title for once and make it more rare to see the World Title. Just my.opinion though of course. That being said I don't want to see Lesnar or Oldberg with the title. In fact, if you could name more than one guy who held the US and IC Title during that time, without looking it up, I'd be impressed. Get ready to be impressed, my friend. Off the top of my head there was... Intercontinental - 146 The Miz 4 September 21 2014 1 Nashville, TN Night of Champions [161] 147 Dolph Ziggler 3 September 22 2014 56 Memphis, TN Raw [162] 148 Luke Harper 1 November 17 2014 27 Roanoke, VA Raw [163] 149 Dolph Ziggler 4 December 14 2014 22 Cleveland, OH TLC: Tables, Ladders and Chairs This was a ladder match. [164] 150 Bad News Barrett 5 January 5 2015 83 Corpus Christi, TX Raw This was a 2-out-of-3 falls match. [165] United States - 133 Sheamus 2 May 5, 2014 182 Albany, NY Raw This was a 20-man battle royal. Sheamus lastly eliminated Dean Ambrose to win the match and the title. WWE recognizes Sheamus' reign as lasting 183 days. [132] 134 Rusev 1 November 3, 2014 146 Buffalo, NY Raw Backstage Pass [133] |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 16:26:52 GMT -5
Because THAT was "off the top of your head"...
... especially the way it's typed out. Nice attempt though. Haha
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Post by Sizzle on Jan 31, 2017 16:31:33 GMT -5
Because THAT was "off the top of your head"... ... especially the way it's typed out. Nice attempt though. Haha I thought it was obvious that he was joking. |
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Post by hbkowns on Jan 31, 2017 16:39:01 GMT -5
Cena/Nikki vs Miz/Maryse?
I really can't fathom that, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised. If that were to happen, just consider that Cena vs Joe and Cena vs Taker got nixed for that....Wtf is wrong with this company.
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Post by tiny04 on Jan 31, 2017 16:44:54 GMT -5
Cena/Nikki vs Miz/Maryse?
Can't believe I'm saying this, but Cena deserves better. Hell, just have Cena vs Miz if you want. It would work with the whole Bryan/Miz story if Cena fought for him. I have no desire to see Nikki and Maryse ruining the match.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 31, 2017 16:53:25 GMT -5
In fact, if you could name more than one guy who held the US and IC Title during that time, without looking it up, I'd be impressed. Get ready to be impressed, my friend. Off the top of my head there was... Intercontinental - 146 The Miz 4 September 21 2014 1 Nashville, TN Night of Champions [161] 147 Dolph Ziggler 3 September 22 2014 56 Memphis, TN Raw [162] 148 Luke Harper 1 November 17 2014 27 Roanoke, VA Raw [163] 149 Dolph Ziggler 4 December 14 2014 22 Cleveland, OH TLC: Tables, Ladders and Chairs This was a ladder match. [164] 150 Bad News Barrett 5 January 5 2015 83 Corpus Christi, TX Raw This was a 2-out-of-3 falls match. [165] United States - 133 Sheamus 2 May 5, 2014 182 Albany, NY Raw This was a 20-man battle royal. Sheamus lastly eliminated Dean Ambrose to win the match and the title. WWE recognizes Sheamus' reign as lasting 183 days. [132] 134 Rusev 1 November 3, 2014 146 Buffalo, NY Raw Backstage Pass [133]  |
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Post by BaLoR RoLLiNS on Jan 31, 2017 17:45:08 GMT -5
I'd actually like an Ambrose vs Cena feud. Possibly over the 1 title Cena has not won
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jan 31, 2017 17:53:09 GMT -5
Having the Universal title on the line for Goldberg vs. Lesnar does absolutely nothing for the match but piss people off about it. So it's also now pretty obvious why Lesnar has been losing. He was probably guaranteed a WWE title run if Goldberg made him out to look like a chump on several occasions prior. This is an extremely stupid move with the brand split since Lesnar isn't going to be showing up to every PPV, and with there being so many now, they NEED to sell tickets and title matches are a big factor in those sales
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Post by Infinite on Jan 31, 2017 17:53:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't even mind Brock vs Goldberg for the title honestly. At least they can't constantly  ing bury the champion if he's never even there lmao |
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Post by ahunter8056 on Jan 31, 2017 18:03:07 GMT -5
Where's everyone getting Cena/Nikki VS Miz/Maryse from? I'm not seeing that mentioned anywhere in the original post.
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Post by Dan on Jan 31, 2017 18:04:38 GMT -5
He couldn't be any more right. Unfortunately, the only reason Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg is for the Title is so that we can have Reigns go over Lesnar for the Title most likely at Summerslam.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 31, 2017 18:06:41 GMT -5
Where's everyone getting Cena/Nikki VS Miz/Maryse from? I'm not seeing that mentioned anywhere in the original post. This is the first time Im hearing those rumors as well, but I can see where it might be coming from. The company probably figures if John Cena vs The Miz filled up 70,000 seats and drew over a million buys 6 years ago, it might do it again in 2017. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 31, 2017 18:07:10 GMT -5
Since when did "RAW will have no Champion" become an actual complaint. You're not supposed to see the champion every week. Once a month works easily. He's a high profile guy at that point and has no reason to show up every week. Let the lower individuals fight for the right to face him then have him show up weekly to build against his opponent. I say a couple PPVS without the world championship on the line would do the company and title some good. Shine some light on the US or IC title for once and make it more rare to see the World Title. Just my.opinion though of course. That being said I don't want to see Lesnar or Oldberg with the title. Unfortunately, the only choices for a Universal champion are: 1. A full-time guy who has the same matches with the same opponents nearly every week until nobody cares. 2. A part-time guy who won't have the same matches with the same opponents nearly every week. The only way they're ever keeping the champ special is if the champ's a guy they can't afford to book in the Raw main event match every Monday. If they can book someone every week, they'll do it, especially when it's one of the four or five full-timers on Raw with some name value. Since when did "RAW will have no Champion" become an actual complaint. You're not supposed to see the champion every week. Once a month works easily. He's a high profile guy at that point and has no reason to show up every week. Let the lower individuals fight for the right to face him then have him show up weekly to build against his opponent. I say a couple PPVS without the world championship on the line would do the company and title some good. Shine some light on the US or IC title for once and make it more rare to see the World Title. Just my.opinion though of course. That being said I don't want to see Lesnar or Oldberg with the title. We already saw Brock as champion for 200+ days where he was never around. It didn't help elevate anyone from the midcard. This theory was put to the test and failed. In fact, if you could name more than one guy who held the US and IC Title during that time, without looking it up, I'd be impressed. I saw the copy and paste job but I'd have taken this challenge simply because at pretty much any six month period from this decade, I'd be confident in guessing The Miz and Dolph Ziggler held midcard titles. I'd have said Kofi Kingston too for most 2010s periods, but I think New Day was already a thing by Brock's title win. In this specific instance though, Rusev definitely shone during that time on Raw. |
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Jan 31, 2017 23:31:34 GMT -5
The actual match is going to be Cena/Nikki vs Ellsworth/Carmella.
$$$
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Jan 31, 2017 23:50:21 GMT -5
If Shane absolutely HAS to be in the ring this Wrestlemania he needs to face The Miz.
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Post by HHH316 on Jan 31, 2017 23:55:34 GMT -5
If they go with Cena/Nikki v. Miz/Maryse, I may be finished with WWE for a long while. Jesus Christ, I never thought of that match. Thanks for putting that nightmare in my head. |
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Post by JC Motors on Feb 2, 2017 11:58:10 GMT -5
Well.. it is Vince's company... True. Vince will always have the final say in things |
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Post by Brad on Feb 2, 2017 14:13:34 GMT -5
Brock vs Goldberg for the Universal Championship is way better anything involving Kevin Owens. No. They don't need that title for their match to matter. Stuff like this is why new stars aren't created. |
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