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Post by Rude Awakening on Jan 31, 2017 14:00:36 GMT -5
All I see on this forum is hated, so Name TWO things (since I know this would be a struggle for you people who constantly complain yet tune in every week) that you want to see that would stop you from complaining about the current wwe
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 14:02:06 GMT -5
John Cena never wins another heavyweight title.
Roman Reigns doesn't beat Undertaker at WrestleMania.
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Post by Johnny Mason on Jan 31, 2017 14:06:19 GMT -5
I never really complain but.. Turn Roman heel
That's about it
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Post by UltimateCollector78 on Jan 31, 2017 14:07:21 GMT -5
Doing away with the brand split BS, and Stephanie McMahon never being an on air character ever again
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Post by drifter on Jan 31, 2017 14:11:11 GMT -5
Not that I regularly complain here, but two things
stop the gotta keep _____ strong booking. This is something that transcends Reigns, they did it with Cena and others, where God forbid they have a face they want to push, get one upped by the heel. It's basically an old school type booking, that doesn't work in 2017, when you have a greater access to programming.
Make the championships actually mean something, both in the design of the belts, and the way they're treated in storylines.
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Post by J12 on Jan 31, 2017 14:14:12 GMT -5
The list of fundamental changes WWE needs to make to improve the product is a mile long. They're still good at providing significant moments every once in a while, but by and large, they fail to deliver quality shows on a week to week basis (Smackdown has been the exception over the last month and a half or so - it's been above average to stellar every week since Ellsworth dropped out of the main event picture.)
The absolute biggest thing right now is to get their characters right by listening to their audience. Stop waging a war with the people who keep the lights on in the buildings. They hate Roman Reigns. He's a miserable babyface, and Vince's fascination with him being the top guy has been a huge detriment to the entire product for the last two plus years. It's time to make him the incredible heel that everyone knows he can be. And I don't buy that "the fans will just cheer him" garbage for a second. People hate this guy. It's nothing like it was with Cena - there was always a layer of respect and jest built into those reactions. Nights when Cena had it bad, he was maybe getting a 40/60 split (with few exceptions.) Roman would LOVE to get a 40/60 split. It's not the same. This is disdain, and WWE is foolish for not capitalizing on it. And it doesn't stop at Roman Reigns - WWE's current landscape has tons of guys horribly miscast. Sometimes, it's a matter of needing a turn. Often times, though, it's just poor character development. Seth Rollins should be a hot babyface right now. He isn't, he's cold as ice because the fans have been given absolutely no reason to cheer him, and when they had one back in May, they had the rug pulled out from under them. It's a disservice to the product and to the audience. Kevin Owens is too funny most of the time to not get cheered, the same goes for Chris Jericho. The list goes on.
Here's the thing, though - criticism is healthy. It's unreasonable to expect every die hard fan to just sit there and gobble up everyting WWE does. Ultimately, reasonable people just want to see the product get better, and that's not too much to ask. There are undoubtedly unfounded complaints, but by and large, the issues people discuss around here are genuine issues that should warrant consideration from WWE. This is the most talented roster WWE has had, quite possibly ever, and the wrestling quality is at an absolute peak. Unfortunately, logic has completely gone out of the window and storytelling has reached what very well could be an all time low. It's a shame that the roster that they have right now is being subjected to one of the worst creative periods in the history of the business, and that frustrates people, and it should.
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Post by MacReady on Jan 31, 2017 14:15:00 GMT -5
1) People making threads bitching about people bitching.
2).... Actually... just the one thing would be GREAT.
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Post by ClashOfStyles on Jan 31, 2017 14:18:25 GMT -5
Roman being pushed as top baby face when he is clearly a better and more talented heel.
KO as champ being booked very weak.
Stephanie McMahon always having to be the star of the show. Mick would be great without her.(see his commissioner run)
U.S. Title being used as a pawn in the main event scene every week.
Brock Lesnar burying up and comers in lazy matches and then disappearing until the next big 4 PPV, only to repeat the same thing again.
American Alpha not being on SD Live consistently every week.
That's six, but I could think of a lot more.
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Post by #DI-WHY? on Jan 31, 2017 14:23:20 GMT -5
I think I'd need more than 2, but the main two would be:
1. Abolish people being pushed to the moon
2. Abolish chicken crapheels
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jan 31, 2017 14:30:27 GMT -5
1. The McMahons sell the company, effective immediately. Entire creative team is fired.
2. Paul Heyman is granted complete control over creative.
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Post by K5 on Jan 31, 2017 14:58:11 GMT -5
The list of fundamental changes WWE needs to make to improve the product is a mile long. They're still good at providing significant moments every once in a while, but by and large, they fail to deliver quality shows on a week to week basis (Smackdown has been the exception over the last month and a half or so - it's been above average to stellar every week since Ellsworth dropped out of the main event picture.) The absolute biggest thing right now is to get their characters right by listening to their audience. Stop waging a war with the people who keep the lights on in the buildings. They hate Roman Reigns. He's a miserable babyface, and Vince's fascination with him being the top guy has been a huge detriment to the entire product for the last two plus years. It's time to make him the incredible heel that everyone knows he can be. And I don't buy that "the fans will just cheer him" garbage for a second. People hate this guy. It's nothing like it was with Cena - there was always a layer of respect and jest built into those reactions. Nights when Cena had it bad, he was maybe getting a 40/60 split (with few exceptions.) Roman would LOVE to get a 40/60 split. It's not the same. This is disdain, and WWE is foolish for not capitalizing on it. And it doesn't stop at Roman Reigns - WWE's current landscape has tons of guys horribly miscast. Sometimes, it's a matter of needing a turn. Often times, though, it's just poor character development. Seth Rollins should be a hot babyface right now. He isn't, he's cold as ice because the fans have been given absolutely no reason to cheer him, and when they had one back in May, they had the rug pulled out from under them. It's a disservice to the product and to the audience. Kevin Owens is too funny most of the time to not get cheered, the same goes for Chris Jericho. The list goes on. Here's the thing, though - criticism is healthy. It's unreasonable to expect every die hard fan to just sit there and gobble up everyting WWE does. Ultimately, reasonable people just want to see the product get better, and that's not too much to ask. There are undoubtedly unfounded complaints, but by and large, the issues people discuss around here are genuine issues that should warrant consideration from WWE. This is the most talented roster WWE has had, quite possibly ever, and the wrestling quality is at an absolute peak. Unfortunately, logic has completely gone out of the window and storytelling has reached what very well could be an all time low. It's a shame that the roster that they have right now is being subjected to one of the worst creative periods in the history of the business, and that frustrates people, and it should. all of this ^ there's a lot of forum 'heels' that take digs at people's criticisms, but the truth is the consumer can't really be wrong. an individual can have an outlandish opinion, but if the collective is feeling that there is an issue then there is one. in b4 the same old tired argument of 'people felt this way about austin getting a superman push' bullcrapthat is spewed in these threads from one certain british member. austin's crowd reactions through his era speak LOUDLY otherwise.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Jan 31, 2017 14:58:18 GMT -5
which is really worse?
Having legit complaints or having the sheep mentality Vince wants the fan's to have?
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jan 31, 2017 15:03:08 GMT -5
1. The McMahons sell the company, effective immediately. Entire creative team is fired. 2. Paul Heyman is granted complete control over creative. Just keep him away from the business end of things or checks will be bouncing like there's no tomorrow.
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Post by BSR on Jan 31, 2017 15:08:01 GMT -5
Triple h never wins another match. Cena retires and goes away forever.
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Post by Sizzle on Jan 31, 2017 15:13:24 GMT -5
Kevin Owens disappears.
The craptitles get redone.
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Post by slappy on Jan 31, 2017 15:14:01 GMT -5
Braun wins the Universal Title.
Corbin wins the WWE Title.
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Post by HHH316 on Jan 31, 2017 15:16:10 GMT -5
It's WM season. The on going trend is for people to bitch more than usual about how awful WM will be.
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Post by bigshab421 on Jan 31, 2017 15:27:17 GMT -5
If you watch a terrible movie that doesn't make any sense, it is the audience's fault right?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 15:38:56 GMT -5
Complaining about people complaining.
... bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for em.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Jan 31, 2017 15:44:45 GMT -5
If you watch a terrible movie that doesn't make any sense, it is the audience's fault right? If a movie is terrible don't you stop watching it eventually? Or do you keep watching it and continue to bicker?
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