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Post by classicwrestlingfan on Feb 7, 2017 16:10:25 GMT -5
#REBOOTTHELEGENDSLINE
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Post by jcz15 on Feb 7, 2017 16:18:38 GMT -5
Simple they didn't sell. If u look back some really poor choices in relation to attire. (Road Warriors before LOD, Sgt in blue and whit etc) But, the other contributing factor -was most collectors rejected having to start again. I refer to it (maybe I stole this) as a Jakks hangover. The line was doomed before it even started. Luckily MDT found ways to get older guys back into the line. flashbacks, HOF, DM and TNF. I totally agree with you about people not wanting to start again. I loved the Jakks Classic Superstar line. When it came out Mattel was taking over the line, I said I was done collecting, and I wasn't going to start over. Then around Elite Series 17 I came back. After looking back now at some of those Legends figures I also totally agree about Attire choices for them. I mean for someone who collects figures I am old at 33, and seeing those pre WWF/WWE attires I was like ummm ok. And then the boot version of Superfly I think even if I was a collector when Mattel start I would of passed on them too.
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Post by Squared² on Feb 7, 2017 16:44:26 GMT -5
Did they cost more than regular elites? I don't remember the only one I ever bought was Vader lol
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Feb 7, 2017 16:49:28 GMT -5
Did they cost more than regular elites? I don't remember the only one I ever bought was Vader lol They were between $10-$15 depending on where you found them. They were $5 on clearance racks and stores like Big Lots towards the end.
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Post by Squared² on Feb 7, 2017 16:56:43 GMT -5
Did they cost more than regular elites? I don't remember the only one I ever bought was Vader lol They were between $10-$15 depending on where you found them. They were $5 on clearance racks and stores like Big Lots towards the end. lol that would be nice to get now, alot of those figs are sought after
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Feb 7, 2017 23:38:48 GMT -5
Did they cost more than regular elites? I don't remember the only one I ever bought was Vader lol No, they were priced at $15 like normal Elites. After sales became a bit dire, TRU began selling them for $12.99 permanently. I nabbed Warrior, Eddie, Savage, and Bam Bam for that price. Target also had a notoriously amazing clearance sale on Legends, where many users were able to get leftovers from L1, L2, and the newer L3 at the time for literally a few dollars. It was insane. Kmart did something similar, too. I think I paid $3-4 for Steamboat from L1.
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Post by The Madness on Feb 8, 2017 0:38:12 GMT -5
Series 2 was WAYYY oversaturated, and the Kmart HOF series only made the issue worse.
If you thought the Target Four Horsemen set was bad, that was like finding the Nitro Notables set compared to Legends series 2.
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Post by rustyjohnson on Feb 8, 2017 1:38:37 GMT -5
Let me be the first to say... "Yeah... yeah that's me." All we got in Canada was legends 2 and it BOMBED. That was it for us. No re-ordering for wal-mart and tru (I remember the wall of jake roberts for 10.00$ lol). I bought all mine a little after this and man, back then I got all my guys for under 20$ each. It's insane how much these figures are after only being out for a few years - insane. Alot of guys I got for under 15$...even had some free shipping to CANADA back then...ah... Then we had a miracle - mattycollector.com Oh were we fooled though. They gave us this poll of figures we would want and had to chose a certain amount. Well they tallied the votes, made the figs and no one bought them. Total disaster lol I'll still never forget that - what an f'n bust that was. I bought every figure and paid the ridiculous shipping - waited up to 6 six weeks for the rockers to arrive... I did my part as did many others here. Props to y'all - but you judas' running around round out there...for shame. They gave us the opportunity and 'we' blew it. OF COURSE everything sold out on clearance (or REAL price) but it was already too late. There were lots of inaccuracies in the figs too. Well meaning but silly attempt. NWA before WWF LOD, AWA Sgt. Slaughter instead of camo, scale issues with perfect, duggan and demolition, heel jake instead of face, releasing face version in a hard to find 2-pack lol, short hair rude instead of mullet rude, akeem instead of OMG?, rock having austin's kneepads and vice versa (which still haunts the line to this day), 2 iron sheiks at once, a terrible roddy (RIP) in a 2pack, kevin and kerry didn't belong, andre (RIP) with regular elite hands and feet, steamboat not wm III, the most confusing figure in history spuerfly snuka (RIP), hf bulldog over classic bulldog, wcw vader?, orndorff in blue, bland warrior, hillbilly jims terrible jeans, bam bam's outfit and stupid jacket, 3 von erich's in on line and last but not least the horrible, horrible diamond dallas strange. Still it gave us beauties like warrior, macho & Kamala
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Post by fzmadness on Feb 8, 2017 19:02:25 GMT -5
I think it had to do with a Jakks hangover and some crazy attire choices. The line did give us a Randy Savage figure finally so it was a hit with me.
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Post by maineventheel on Feb 8, 2017 19:16:50 GMT -5
I personally love the legend series. Wish I wasn't so stubborn to switch to Mattel when they were out. I only got a few of the later series on clearance when I started collecting
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Post by boz1515 on Feb 8, 2017 19:39:47 GMT -5
Here is the thing though.......
1) These things go for an absolute fortune on Ebay, and they have for several years.
2) The Legends that are mixed into the Elite line tend to sell very well around me, and that is apparently the case in many places according to this board.
The Jakks Classic Superstars hangover is over. It is time again Mattel... Oh yes, it is time. When Rick "The Model" Martel sells for $9 Ga-zillion in the box on Ebay, money can be made.
#Rebootthelegends
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Post by rustyjohnson on Feb 8, 2017 20:32:10 GMT -5
Here is the thing though....... 1) These things go for an absolute fortune on Ebay, and they have for several years. 2) The Legends that are mixed into the Elite line tend to sell very well around me, and that is apparently the case in many places according to this board. The Jakks Classic Superstars hangover is over. It is time again Mattel... Oh yes, it is time. When Rick "The Model" Martel sells for $9 Ga-zillion in the box on Ebay, money can be made. #Rebootthelegends 1. No not for years, it's only been the last two maybe where it jumped to CRAZY prices. I bought all my legends for under 20$ off ebay even as low as 10$ sometimes. 2. I don't even know how that was relevant lol 3. Money can be made? Well it's like anything else - you have to FIND someone willing to pay that outrageous price. I've been around 40 yrs on this planet and THIS little nugget of info STILL hasn't sunk in on people. You gotta find someone to buy! You can charge or ask all you want but the reality is - you're probably gonna have lots of stuff your just stuck with - then will eventually have to sell at a loss. I mean jesus people, what do you think you're going to sell? You gonna wait 30 yrs to dump those figs? Will anyone care at that point? Do you know how many people might dump their collections over the years in that time. You'll end up competing against each other AND against people who just want to save a buck and buy loose. Never once in my life have I seen anyone make money in situation like that. I can't see the future but imo collecting just to sell later is a fools game (in the LONG RUN). Just my opinion...
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Post by qdogg on Feb 8, 2017 20:43:30 GMT -5
They were 14.99 at first and they we're very hard to find in my area but I did end up getting some of them at Family Dollar and Big Lots for 10 bucks each and then Kmart had some Legends in the end for 99 cents each
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Post by BCizzle on Feb 8, 2017 21:04:15 GMT -5
If only they had made the LOD in black and red, and Sarge in camo, and Jimmy Snuka barefoot, the line would still be going strong today! Right, guys?
SMH
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Post by boz1515 on Feb 8, 2017 21:07:11 GMT -5
Here is the thing though....... 1) These things go for an absolute fortune on Ebay, and they have for several years. 2) The Legends that are mixed into the Elite line tend to sell very well around me, and that is apparently the case in many places according to this board. The Jakks Classic Superstars hangover is over. It is time again Mattel... Oh yes, it is time. When Rick "The Model" Martel sells for $9 Ga-zillion in the box on Ebay, money can be made. #Rebootthelegends 1. No not for years, it's only been the last two maybe where it jumped to CRAZY prices. I bought all my legends for under 20$ off ebay even as low as 10$ sometimes. I've been collecting for more than 4 years, and guys like Bam Bam (before the TNF line), Savage, Orndorff, etc. were very expensive then. The same could be said for Bossman until the TRU re-release.
2. I don't even know how that was relevant lol It's relevant because many of the guys who are released over and over (Cena, Bray, Cesaro, Orton, etc.) seem to warm as compared to say the E38 Macho. That is how it is relevant.
3. Money can be made? Well it's like anything else - you have to FIND someone willing to pay that outrageous price. I've been around 40 yrs on this planet and THIS little nugget of info STILL hasn't sunk in on people. You gotta find someone to buy! You can charge or ask all you want but the reality is - you're probably gonna have lots of stuff your just stuck with - then will eventually have to sell at a loss. I mean jesus people, what do you think you're going to sell? You gonna wait 30 yrs to dump those figs? Will anyone care at that point? Do you know how many people might dump their collections over the years in that time. You'll end up competing against each other AND against people who just want to save a buck and buy loose. Never once in my life have I seen anyone make money in situation like that. I can't see the future but imo collecting just to sell later is a fools game (in the LONG RUN). Just my opinion... You sound like you think you know everything about everything. It must be awesome to be you. When I said "money can be made," I was referring to Mattel making money at retail, not someone trying to re-sell a personal collection. There is a reason Mattel re-released guys like Big Bossman and Wrestlemania 4 Warrior. One reason may have been because those guys (who are considered Legends) were going for big numbers on Ebay. Didn't Bill say they were re-releasing the Outsiders Battle Pack because it sold well and they wanted to make it available again?
There is a market for Legends, how big is hard to say, but there is obviously a market. One might argue that now would be a better time than when the line was originally released.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 21:21:10 GMT -5
The obscure attire is a myth. There weren't as many of these occurrences as people make them out to be. And Road Warriors weren't obscure. That attire is as iconic as LOD. Out of the 33 figures in the main retail released singles line I count 5 wrong picks for attire. Stone Cold Steamboat Dusty *Slaughter (shoulda been the HOF fig) Hawk Animal Rude *Funk (shoulda been ECW) *Snuka (shoulda been bare foot) Kamala *Jake (shoulda been Allstar Jake) Sheik Rock Pillman Perfect Bulldog *Vader (shoulda came with Mastodon helmet instead of cape) Duggan Warrior Steele Wonderful Hillbilly Ax Smash Savage Model Akeem Bam Bam Warrior Eddie Tornado Kerry Kevin I agree with your list, except I would give Jake's attire a pass. It's iconic in its own way, representing a very memorable heel run.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 21:28:25 GMT -5
the jakks "hangover" as one said. along with it being the 2nd depression and no one had money to spend at the time. were the 2 biggest reasons. as pointed out on here. there were only a few bad attire choices. and the Steamboat in Red w/Gator was AWESOME! a guy Jakks was unable to sign.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Feb 8, 2017 21:29:33 GMT -5
The obscure attire is a myth. There weren't as many of these occurrences as people make them out to be. And Road Warriors weren't obscure. That attire is as iconic as LOD. Out of the 33 figures in the main retail released singles line I count 5 wrong picks for attire. Stone Cold Steamboat Dusty *Slaughter (shoulda been the HOF fig) Hawk Animal Rude *Funk (shoulda been ECW) *Snuka (shoulda been bare foot) Kamala *Jake (shoulda been Allstar Jake) Sheik Rock Pillman Perfect Bulldog *Vader (shoulda came with Mastodon helmet instead of cape) Duggan Warrior Steele Wonderful Hillbilly Ax Smash Savage Model Akeem Bam Bam Warrior Eddie Tornado Kerry Kevin I agree with your list, except I would give Jake's attire a pass. It's iconic in its own way, representing a very memorable heel run. It was memorable but I recall being disappointed it wasn't Jake with Damien. Clearly 1986-1991 was more iconic than mid 1991-92.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 21:31:33 GMT -5
I agree with your list, except I would give Jake's attire a pass. It's iconic in its own way, representing a very memorable heel run. It was memorable but I recall being disappointed it wasn't Jake with Damien. Clearly 1986-1991 was more iconic than mid 1991-92. I think it's just a matter of taste, because I was a much bigger fan of "Trust Me" Jake with the cobra, so to me his Legends attire was "the" attire. I have his All-Star ones too though and both are amazing.
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Post by hitman1072 on Feb 8, 2017 21:38:54 GMT -5
The main problem with the Legends line was the economy at the time. Collector lines during that period were all but dead. The poor line-up, or obscure attire reasons are ridiculous. The guys complaining about line-ups and attires are fans with little to no knowledge of wrestling history. If a wrestling legends line can't have Sheik & Volkof, The Bushwhackers & Piper & Orton in it...it's not a legends line.
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