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Post by Chicago on Mar 6, 2017 11:31:41 GMT -5
Kudos to you guys who did all that research. I feel like unreleased/canceled/proto figures pre-2000 are probably pains to find. I mean there are probably unreleased or planned figures we'll never even know about because of the lack of Internet or social media. I think a lot of these seem legit. I mean Tenessee Lee, Neidhart, new versions of Brian Christopher, Pillman, Chyna, Jackie...I can easily see those being planned and even made made into protos. The celeb thing sounds like a stretch but honestly sounds fairly plausible to me personally. As a kid, and fan of Pete Rose & Aretha, I'd have snatched these up! I remember being a fan of the the Power Rangers line made actual astronauts in the In Space series. So I can see Jakks planning a celebrity series. Would it have warmed shelves? No doubt lol. I can seriously see an Aretha Franklin WWF figure on shelves of KB Toys (I can see many of them a haha) but I would have gotten her. I'd have also gone for a Lawrence Taylor! TBH the whole series sounds like it would have been epic to me. Man I really want it now! Most stuff after mid-1998 can be rather easy to find on the Internet Archive. The real pain is in finding sites dedicated to Jakks WWF figures in the first two years. There wasn't much of a following in those days and it took time to grow into the community that exists today. All I can say to that is thank god for the many archived Usenet posts on Google Groups. Those have helped to fill in the gaps of my BCA timeline. Not to mention, the remnants of AFR (early WF), Figure Zone and other sites have contributed a great deal to my knowledge of the line. Man I thought I was the only one that knew and remembered some of this stuff I'm glad you posted everything brother a lot of these are spot on when it comes to the ttl the classic superstars and ra lines basically perfect the bca are almost also I don't recall Scorpio in the planned line-up for bca series 8 tho I do remember billy gunn who also has a prototype. the legends series 2 is correct minus Hogan I don't think it would have made the cut due to him being in wcw at the time. the thumb wrestlers series are the correct line-up. ripped and ruthless 3 was chyna stone cold in jeans owen hart Ken shamrock the wrestlemania stars I can see Lawrence Taylor mike tyson and Pete rose making the cut but none of the others really the ecw line-up would have been everyone who invaded raw and was on the wwf program at the time ringside collection series 2 I think was correct until the last minute changes series 3 would've been series 4 then the series 2 we actually got would've been series 3 the 2 packs seem legit some are questionable the 4 pack box sets are basically correct signature series 2 Rocky and shamrock was replaced by the outlaws I believe the wrestlemania 3 packs would've been the one's listed rather than the remakes of the single series we got I wanna say their was also a rumored kane taker and paul 3 pack for the mania one's some of slammers series 2 was supposed to be series 6 really don't know what happened there but truth is jakks was really weird about releases and dropped the ball a lot of times on a lot of things when it comes to the bca line with the new gen/attitude era stars and jobbers I would love too see any other confirmations you have on anything else when it comes to these past lines especially old toy fair pictures in case of if I did indeed forget or missed something Scorpio probably wasn't planned for Series 8, but these two sites made mention of the rumored lineup as of January 1999: 1/7/99 - web.archive.org/web/19990127193230/members.tripod.com/~BRIAN779/ETC.html1/14/99 - web.archive.org/web/19990420141341/http:/www.figurezone.com/64.htmNaturally, the Internet Archive would be giving a hard time as I'm trying to link to those pages.  You're right about Superstars Series 8 Billy Gunn. His prototype was shown on Ringside Collectibles but the figure was pulled in favor of the first non-Slammers version of Kane. Then, D'Lo Brown was removed from a proposed 2 Tuff Series 4 2-Pack with Val Venis and who took his place? Billy Gunn, in practically the same attire as the Series 8 prototype.  Superstars Series 8 Prototype:  Credit: Ringside Collectibles2 Tuff Series 4 MOC Figure:  Credit: eBay seller chattanoogatoybuyer*comLegends Series 2 never had a full confirmed lineup (of four figures) that I know of, but here's an article from the May 1998 issue of WWF Magazine which pretty much confirms the rumored names of George "The Animal" Steele and Chief Jay Strongbow.  Here's a scan of the unreleased Series 2 Thumb Wrestlers on display at Toy Fair 1998:  Credit: PhiliProDesignsSeveral names were thrown about for Ripped and Ruthless Series 3, including "Marvelous" Marc Mero and Steve Blackman, but the only two that we know for sure (because of the cast resin prototypes) are Austin in jeans and Chyna. Shamrock probably was close. Who knows what would've become of Owen. The WrestleMania Stars and ECW lines were reported on by the Action Figure Zone Newsletter. Not exactly the most credible source, but definitely the most prominent one featured in that post. It's also very likely that they copied and pasted from other, more reputable sites. Others that I can account for in that post include: Action Figure Resource (AFR), Figure Zone, Google Groups/Usenet Archives, JWLJN 's Action Figure Newsletter, Stone Cold 777 News and some that I'm probably forgetting. Those are all for the BCA-related bits of information. I can't speak to the other stuff since I don't follow it as closely as the BCA line. ringside collection series 2 I think was correct until the last minute changes series 3 would've been series 4 then the series 2 we actually got would've been series 3 the 2 packs seem legit some are questionable the 4 pack box sets are basically correct signature series 2 Rocky and shamrock was replaced by the outlaws I believe the wrestlemania 3 packs would've been the one's listed rather than the remakes of the single series we got I wanna say their was also a rumored kane taker and paul 3 pack for the mania one's some of slammers series 2 was supposed to be series 6 really don't know what happened there but truth is jakks was really weird about releases and dropped the ball a lot of times on a lot of things when it comes to the bca line with the new gen/attitude era stars and jobbers I would love too see any other confirmations you have on anything else when it comes to these past lines especially old toy fair pictures in case of if I did indeed forget or missed something I saved this portion of your post for last because some of it is actually news to me. Thank you so much for contributing it to this thread.  Do you remember who it was that Honky Tonk Man may have replaced in Ringside Collection Series 2? Because I know he was a late addition. Any other missing names would explain why Vince McMahon and the Referee were re-released on Series 2 cards. I heard Dok Hendrix's name once, but I don't know if the source was reliable. I had never thought of it before, but The New Age Outlaws in Signature Series 2 always did seem like they were thrown in at the last second. Any reason for the purple knee pad variant of Billy Gunn? I'm not sure if I believe Mike Tyson was actually going to be made. Kane and Paul Bearer? Sure, why not, but what could've held them up? Kane was released a month later in Slammers Series 2, and Paul Bearer without the makeup was released in the Badd Blood 4-Pack later that fall. The lineup for Superstars Series 6 was supposed to be Slammers Series 3 until Jakks pulled the plug on the Slammers line and reinstated the regular BCA figures. Here's something else which you may or may not remember: Here's a tidbit that you may not know or remember about the Raw Is War series that was released to stores in July 1999. Courtesy of Crosby's Q&A column from AFR on July 12, 1999: I had never heard this before, but it did always strike me as odd that the assortment had only four figures instead of the standard number of six. The only other mention that I've found of the Billy Gunn and HHH Raw Is War series figures comes from HBREAKID's old message board on July 23, 1999: Nothing ever came of that post, and I guess we'll never know if such figures were ever meant to exist as part of that series. However, there were rumors at that time of a BCA Billy Gunn figure in pink trunks with blue trim/lips, but the closest we ever came to that was in Backlash Series 3. Odds are, the Billy Gunn figure would have appeared in white as it did in the Grudge Match Series 2-pack (released in July 1999) opposite Series 8 Ken Shamrock. If there were to have been a Raw Is War HHH figure, it would have likely been a re-release or repaint of the Deadly Games Series (also released in July 1999). I don't believe that either Billy Gunn or HHH were shipped to stores in the Raw Is War series, but if there ever were two names to be considered, they are a safe bet. Last but not least, here's a link to a search of some recent posts of mine regarding magazine scans. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/search/results?captcha_id=captcha_search&where_board_subboard=66&who_at_least_one=3530&what_all=scans&where_thread_title=The+BCA+Line&display_as=0&search=SearchIt's not everything I've posted over the years, but it does count for something.  |
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Post by FUSamBaker on Mar 6, 2017 15:52:36 GMT -5
With the exception of a few missin parts, the BCA era was pretty roster accurate. I mean I would have loved to see the Oddities in all their glory, maybe a Dok Hendrix and KaienTai (a Yamaguchi San would have been epic!!) but really it was pretty decent compared to the TTL or RA era.
The rumored Ringside series looks superb to me! The fact that it was unreleased/rumored makes me think that ToyFair exclusive Debra may have been from that series. And if another Jackie would have been made, hopefully she would have had a new female BCA body haha.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 7, 2017 7:14:11 GMT -5
I honestly believe Chainsaw Charlie was planned and cancelled because he had a mini figure and they were based on the 6 inch BCA's so a pprototype must have been made.
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Post by Chicago on Mar 7, 2017 13:38:43 GMT -5
I honestly believe Chainsaw Charlie was planned and cancelled because he had a mini figure and they were based on the 6 inch BCA's so a pprototype must have been made. The Hardcore Legends were definitely planned for 2 Tuff Series 2. See also: These unreleased Cactus Jack and Chainsaw Charlie thumb wrestlers.   Credit: gartwo.tripod.com/partsunknown/thumbjakksproto.html |
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Mar 7, 2017 15:01:46 GMT -5
I honestly believe Chainsaw Charlie was planned and cancelled because he had a mini figure and they were based on the 6 inch BCA's so a pprototype must have been made. The Hardcore Legends were definitely planned for 2 Tuff Series 2. See also: These unreleased Cactus Jack and Chainsaw Charlie thumb wrestlers.   Credit: gartwo.tripod.com/partsunknown/thumbjakksproto.htmlAlso there was the SvS mini ring figure they could base him off. I still have mine loose.  |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 7, 2017 16:15:42 GMT -5
Also there was the SvS mini ring figure they could base him off. I still have mine loose. That was the first ever WWE set I ever got. Oh the memories. |
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Post by Chicago on Mar 7, 2017 16:58:34 GMT -5
Also there was the SvS mini ring figure they could base him off. I still have mine loose. Yeah, there's a reason why Jakks packaged miniature versions of the 2 Tuff Series 2 New Age Outlaws figures with them, along with SCU Austin and Kane. It's because their 6" counterparts were all previously due a summertime release. Only Stone Cold Steve Austin (WrestleMania XIV Series/Grudge Match 2-pack in July '98) and Kane (Slammers Series 2 in August '98) met that deadline. Several of the main lines, notably 2 Tuff Series 2 and Superstars Series 6, experienced a delay and did not reach stores until September/October of that year. Cactus and Chainsaw had been planned for a 6" figure 2-pack, but unfortunately the idea was scrapped and the Brian Christopher/Jerry Lawler 2-pack took its place. Wouldn't you know it that shortly thereafter BCA Cactus Jack would be issued in the all-Mick Foley Triple Threat 3-pack, and then later in the No Holds Barred 3-pack with two other wrestlers. Their names? Stone Cold Steve Austin and Kane. |
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Post by JC Motors on Mar 8, 2017 20:47:56 GMT -5
It's a shame how Jakks never bothered to release any of these prototypes
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Post by FUSamBaker on Mar 8, 2017 21:25:30 GMT -5
I honestly believe Chainsaw Charlie was planned and cancelled because he had a mini figure and they were based on the 6 inch BCA's so a pprototype must have been made. That always irked me haha! As a kid, I figured they had either released a full size without me knowing or that one was coming. Cactus Jack was lonely in that big old dumpster haha. |
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Post by @brit_figs on Mar 9, 2017 11:44:00 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure a Jim Cornette 'RA style' figure is being released very shortly through another line of figures.
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Post by thespecialone on Mar 9, 2017 12:00:33 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure a Jim Cornette 'RA style' figure is being released very shortly through another line of figures. Voldermort cant be named here. |
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Post by DRFTKO on Mar 9, 2017 13:36:30 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure a Jim Cornette 'RA style' figure is being released very shortly through another line of figures. It has already been released! |
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Post by Hitman Bono on Mar 10, 2017 3:09:19 GMT -5
Also there was the SvS mini ring figure they could base him off. I still have mine loose. That was the first ever WWE set I ever got. Oh the memories. I'm not sure who the member is, or even if it's still his signature, but there's a user here who has a picture of themselves circa X-Mas '97. He's like 3-5 years old and holding the original Wrestlemania mini ring set and he's just so god damned excited. I used to collect the minifig sets. I was soooooo bummed when they switched from the mini BCA look to the mini Sweat figures. |
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Post by FUSamBaker on Mar 10, 2017 20:24:30 GMT -5
Same! The fact that they were literally miniature versions of the 6inch figures is awesome! I remember buying the WrestleMania one for $3 on clearance at TRU...came with everything but the ring haha!
Does anyone know of a Miss Kitty/The Cat figure planned or unreleased? For as long as she was there, she should have had a figure. If Jakks had ventured to make another female double pack then maybe we could have gotten Miss Kitty and Chyna in a Double Slam haha. Or maybe a WrestleMania 2000 Miss Kitty vs Terri Runnels!
Lastly, I could have sworn we had a Headbangers planned/unreleased in TTL. I swear figure life would have been grand had everyone in N64's No Mercy had been made.
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Post by Lego Customs! on Mar 12, 2017 10:39:03 GMT -5
Also there was the SvS mini ring figure they could base him off. I still have mine loose. That was the first ever WWE set I ever got. Oh the memories. I got the Wrestlemania set first (the figures in that set were slightly taller than all the others sets released weirdly) and I loved it. Sadly I ended up sitting on it and breaking the ring posts and I think it got thrown  Kept the figures, belt, ring steps and post launcher. I did get the SvS set a few years after but I have no idea what happened to that or the figures... I only have Chainsaw Charlie and the dumpster left.   I do however have a Raw is War set and King of the Ring nowadays. These playsets were brilliant. |
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Post by BCA_Bawstud on Mar 12, 2017 10:54:56 GMT -5
That was the first ever WWE set I ever got. Oh the memories. I got the Wrestlemania set first (the figures in that set were slightly taller than all the others sets released weirdly) and I loved it. Sadly I ended up sitting on it and breaking the ring posts and I think it got thrown Kept the figures, belt, ring steps and post launcher. I did get the SvS set a few years after but I have no idea what happened to that or the figures... I only have Chainsaw Charlie and the dumpster left I do however have a Raw is War set and King of the Ring nowadays. These playsets were brilliant. I'm currently workin on a custom BCA Chainsaw so its good to see pics like this Trying to get as close to this figure as I can just to get an idea of what it would've looked like as an actually released figure |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 19:49:26 GMT -5
Linda McMahon😭
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Post by micco on Mar 25, 2017 19:15:01 GMT -5
Yes there was the photo popped on here once Incorrect. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 18:17:31 GMT -5
Yes there was the photo popped on here once Incorrect. Nope |
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Mar 26, 2017 18:31:57 GMT -5
There has never been a photo of Zach Gowen ever. I have been here since 2003. I have never seen one, I have a database of prototypes and figures that I keep up, There has not been a figure shown. What you saw was a custom or photoshopped |
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