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Post by Hulkster2001 on Mar 7, 2017 21:08:09 GMT -5
 So in a world where Hulk Hogan stayed with the WWF in 1993, could there have been an nWo? Could have it worked? How would the monday night wars gone? Would WCW have gone out of business sooner? Or would've WCW have won and would we have a WCW network?
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Post by Team Madness on Mar 8, 2017 8:16:46 GMT -5
This was really well written. Definitely an interesting thought. I'll offer a few thoughts.
- it would have been really tough for WWF to implement the nWo in the summer of 96 with the roster that they had. It wasn't until the end of 96 and beginning of 97 that wwf transitioned into more reality based characters. WCW had the perfect roster to do it.
- the biggest thing about your piece is that I can't get over your selection of (Austin, hart, and Roberts) I like Austin, I like hart,but Roberts should be nowhere near this match. I would replace him with Bret. ( give Bret off the first few months after mania, bring him in for a few promos) his feud with Austin......his feud with Owen....would only fuel this match. He can be the one who gets hurt and leaves the match early. Leaves again for a few months, have him come back around the rumble where Austin blames him for getting injured and costing the team the match setting up their WM match.
- instead of the fake undertaker trying to emulate the fake sting I would just ditch it all together. instead I would tease the Kliq storyline, with Shawn and hunter always teasing a turn. Hunter eventually turns and joins but Shawn always stays true and winds up being the one to beat the nWo after getting help from Bret and Austin after their feud.
Otherwise I enjoyed every word of what you wrote. Excellent job and really a cool aspect to think of.
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 8, 2017 9:05:07 GMT -5
An interesting idea, but I think it would have one major flaw :
the nWo was built on the idea that a group of outsiders, from another wrestling promotion, were coming in to take over the current promotion. Which meant acknowledging that there was wrestling that existed outside of the WWF, something Vince was still not too keen on doing in 1996, much less revolving a whole storyline around it.
That said, I didn't read the article yet, I'd see a scenario like :
Still have Hall and Nash, but not so much the Outsiders as the "Insiders". Plants sent from WCW back in 93 to take over the company from the inside, and they did, rising to 2 of the top spots. But now they're bringing more into their little group to help. My WWF nWo would be
Hall
Nash
Austin
Mankind (who upon his reveal would go back to being Cactus Jack )
Hunter hearst Helmsley ( also recently over from WCW )
Hogan
Big Show ... he turns once his friend Hogan does.
Owen Hart - sorta the Buff Bagwell here. He joins just to spite Bret.
Farooq - back to Ron Simmons. after the spartacus debacle, he joins without hesitation.
... yes, Hogan. From 94 - 95 or so, he had been fading from the spotlight, as he was passed over by guys like Nash, Hart, and Michaels. After all he did for Vince and the WWf, how he "MADE" them, he's been slowly put out to pasture. No more! He's out to destroy the company he "helped create" and that he feels turned on him. At SummerSlam 96, he wins the WWF Title from HBK with help from his friends.
Vader becomes the DDP of the scenario, asked to join multiple times, but always resists. Same with Goldust. I see the Team WWF group opposing them as :
Bret Hart
Shawn Michaels
Undertaker
Vader
British Bulldog
Goldust
Ultimate Warrior ( if he stuck around )
Then you'd have some guys who would go back and forth. Marc Mero would join, only to leave. Eventually Owen would get kicked out, after he realizes he's not really wanted, and only being used to get at Bret. austin would fulfill the Giant role, winning a Title shot, but leaving after realizing he'll never get it and has no chance to become the Man while part of the group.
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Post by He Hate Me on Mar 8, 2017 9:38:58 GMT -5
The link is pretty well written out. You have a pretty interesting idea, though. If Hall and Nash were to stay in WWF in 96, I always loved the idea of throwing them into an NWO type group with Shawn Michaels, Hunter and the 123 Kid. Have Shawn be reluctant for awhile, playing the good guy ultra baby face champ, saying that he was loyal to the WWF and then eventually turn and become the leader of the kliq based group. This would probably be more of a DX type group than an NWO type group now that I think of it.
I also always loved the idea of Austin saving his heel turn for 2002, instead of joining the alliance, they should have waited until the NWO booted Hogan out and then became the new leader with Nash, Hall, X-PAC and Big Show rounding out the rest of the group. I always thought the Austin joining the alliance turn sucked.
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 8, 2017 9:51:30 GMT -5
The link is pretty well written out. You have a pretty interesting idea, though. If Hall and Nash were to stay in WWF in 96, I always loved the idea of throwing them into an NWO type group with Shawn Michaels, Hunter and the 123 Kid. Have Shawn be reluctant for awhile, playing the good guy ultra baby face champ, saying that he was loyal to the WWF and then eventually turn and become the leader of the kliq based group. This would probably be more of a DX type group than an NWO type group now that I think of it. I also always loved the idea of Austin saving his heel turn for 2002, instead of joining the alliance, they should have waited until the NWO booted Hogan out and then became the new leader with Nash, Hall, X-PAC and Big Show rounding out the rest of the group. I always thought the Austin joining the alliance turn sucked. What should have happened is Austin going back to a tweener in 2001. Have Mania end like it did, but then Austin stuns Vince at the end as well. Next night on Raw, he comes out, says he said he would do whatever it took to get the WWf Title back - whatever. So he did. He used to Vince to make the match a no-DQ, no countout match, and then got him to help Austin win the Title. Once his goal was accomplished, he had no use for him, so he dumped him. Austin would be kind of an island onto himself, his only concern was keeping his Title. He's even face members of both the WWF and the Alliance during the year. No loyalty to anyone but himself. |
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Mar 9, 2017 10:38:39 GMT -5
The link is pretty well written out. You have a pretty interesting idea, though. If Hall and Nash were to stay in WWF in 96, I always loved the idea of throwing them into an NWO type group with Shawn Michaels, Hunter and the 123 Kid. Have Shawn be reluctant for awhile, playing the good guy ultra baby face champ, saying that he was loyal to the WWF and then eventually turn and become the leader of the kliq based group. This would probably be more of a DX type group than an NWO type group now that I think of it. I also always loved the idea of Austin saving his heel turn for 2002, instead of joining the alliance, they should have waited until the NWO booted Hogan out and then became the new leader with Nash, Hall, X-PAC and Big Show rounding out the rest of the group. I always thought the Austin joining the alliance turn sucked. What should have happened is Austin going back to a tweener in 2001. Have Mania end like it did, but then Austin stuns Vince at the end as well. Next night on Raw, he comes out, says he said he would do whatever it took to get the WWf Title back - whatever. So he did. He used to Vince to make the match a no-DQ, no countout match, and then got him to help Austin win the Title. Once his goal was accomplished, he had no use for him, so he dumped him. Austin would be kind of an island onto himself, his only concern was keeping his Title. He's even face members of both the WWF and the Alliance during the year. No loyalty to anyone but himself. Just like he used to be in 96 and 97. Seriously why did they even bother with it?
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Post by K5 on Mar 10, 2017 13:21:59 GMT -5
i think if they had done the nwo in the wwf it wouldn't have been as accessible to non wrestling fans. they recognized hulk hogan but he had clearly drastically changed, and that piqued initial interest.
it would have essentially just been a larger dx - or that's how i envision it. bret hart may have left earlier, despite him certainly being similar to sting as the 'company guy'.
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Post by PJ on Mar 12, 2017 19:33:56 GMT -5
The WWE wouldn't have thought of the NWO angle. Vince wouldn't have signed 2 WCW guys and had them run roughshot over his company making it look like WCW was invading.
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Post by LA Times on Mar 14, 2017 16:08:04 GMT -5
Diamond Studd and Vinnie Vegas wouldnt have made convincing outside invaders.
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