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Post by Rude Awakening on Mar 25, 2017 19:49:05 GMT -5
What will be the matches?
I don't want any of the matches already announced to be pushed to the kickoff.
I'm hoping for
The usos vs American Alpha
Samoa Joe vs Sami Zayn
Akira Tozawa vs Brian Kendrick
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Post by #DI-WHY? on Mar 25, 2017 20:49:51 GMT -5
Samoa Joe on the pre-show is not acceptable. Push the SDL women's championship off the card
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Post by Ember's Flame on Mar 25, 2017 20:52:37 GMT -5
205 Live Showcase Tag Team Match Noam Dar/Ariya Daivari/The Brian Kendrick/Tony Nese/Drew Gulak vs. Rich Swann/TJ Perkins/Jack Gallagher/Akira Tozawa/Sin Cara
UK Championship Match Tyler Bate (C) vs. Pete Dunne
SD Tag Team Championship Match The Usos (C's) vs. American Alpha
Plus Samoa Joe will come out with Triple H.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 26, 2017 6:22:16 GMT -5
Samoa Joe on the kick off? What an insult.
Also the kick off show should be 205 exclusive.
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Post by Ricky Nitro on Mar 26, 2017 6:41:57 GMT -5
205 Live Showcase Tag Team Match Noam Dar/Ariya Daivari/The Brian Kendrick/Tony Nese/Drew Gulak vs. Rich Swann/TJ Perkins/Jack Gallagher/Akira Tozawa/Sin Cara UK Championship Match Tyler Bate (C) vs. Pete Dunne SD Tag Team Championship Match The Usos (C's) vs. American Alpha Plus Samoa Joe will come out with Triple H. I'd be more than happy with this.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Mar 26, 2017 9:14:05 GMT -5
As long as they don't relegate either of the womens matches to the kick-off, I'm happy. They can put the 205 Live match and the triple threat RAW Tag Team titles match on the kick-off. If they make a SmackDown Tag Team titles match, that will almost certainly be on the kick-off too. Andre the Giant memorial battle royal could be on the pre-show again too. If they make Samoa Joe VS Sami Zayn, that could go on the pre-show too.
If the mere idea of Samoa Joe being relegated to the pre-show is apparently "unacceptable", then relegating either of the womens title matches to the pre-show is even more unacceptable, as it would totally undermine the women's revolution. A whole division is worth far more than a single star. And I'm sorry, but if you honestly think Samoa Joe is worth far more than women's wrestling, then you've got your head stuck in the past.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 26, 2017 9:56:42 GMT -5
As long as they don't relegate either of the womens matches to the kick-off, I'm happy. They can put the 205 Live match and the triple threat RAW Tag Team titles match on the kick-off. If they make a SmackDown Tag Team titles match, that will almost certainly be on the kick-off too. Andre the Giant memorial battle royal could be on the pre-show again too. If they make Samoa Joe VS Sami Zayn, that could go on the pre-show too. If the mere idea of Samoa Joe being relegated to the pre-show is apparently "unacceptable", then relegating either of the womens title matches to the pre-show is even more unacceptable, as it would totally undermine the women's revolution. A whole division is worth far more than a single star. And I'm sorry, but if you honestly think Samoa Joe is worth far more than women's wrestling, then you've got your head stuck in the past. I don't mean to be rude but why do you believe that it's OK for the tag teams to go on the pre show and not the Women? The Raw tag match was on the last PPV's pre show so it's totally unfair on Gallows and Anderson if they have to defend again on the pre show. Another thing Enzo and Cass will get a mega ear deafning reaction so I doubt WWE would want one of their most over teams not to be on the actual card. As for the Smackdown tag titles well yes they mean nothing so throw them on the pre show if needed. Also you seem to underestimate Samoa Joe. He is a wrestling icon and is huge, huge money. He and AJ Styles were two of the companies biggest signings of this decade. He is a huge draw and does not belong on a pre show.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 10:09:41 GMT -5
As long as they don't relegate either of the womens matches to the kick-off, I'm happy. They can put the 205 Live match and the triple threat RAW Tag Team titles match on the kick-off. If they make a SmackDown Tag Team titles match, that will almost certainly be on the kick-off too. Andre the Giant memorial battle royal could be on the pre-show again too. If they make Samoa Joe VS Sami Zayn, that could go on the pre-show too. If the mere idea of Samoa Joe being relegated to the pre-show is apparently "unacceptable", then relegating either of the womens title matches to the pre-show is even more unacceptable, as it would totally undermine the women's revolution. A whole division is worth far more than a single star. And I'm sorry, but if you honestly think Samoa Joe is worth far more than women's wrestling, then you've got your head stuck in the past. I see the Raw Tag Titles opening the show, the crowd would be hyped and with about 70,000 people doing the SAWFT thing (the arena is half way full during the kick off) is going to be lit. My dream (which I doubt won't happen at WM33, but most likely the SD Live after WM33) is that the Broken Hardys return to WWE after the SD Tag Title Match. Also Joe deserves the Main Show, he has been Wrestling for over 10 years, and deserves it. Also the Neville vs Austin Aries should be on the main show to showcase the Cruiserweight division to 70,000 people. I see a Cruiserweight multi person tag match on the kickoff. I won't mind the Andre The Giant battle royal to be on the kickoff, besides if someone from NXT debuts, or someone returns in the Battle Royal. I don't think anyone would be mad if any of the womens matches would be on kick off (I wouldn't be mad)
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Post by BØRNS on Mar 26, 2017 15:29:56 GMT -5
Samoa Joe on the kick off? What an insult. Also the kick off show should be 205 exclusive. To be fair, he's the newest member to the main roster.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 26, 2017 15:36:19 GMT -5
Samoa Joe on the kick off? What an insult. Also the kick off show should be 205 exclusive. To be fair, he's the newest member to the main roster. He is a world famous wrestler and a huge draw. People pay to see Samoa Joe and WWE should be grateful to have him on the roster because he's one of their biggest ever signings in recent memory. Stars who bring tons of money to the table need to be on the main show because they are the main attractions.
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Post by BØRNS on Mar 26, 2017 18:18:56 GMT -5
To be fair, he's the newest member to the main roster. He is a world famous wrestler and a huge draw. People pay to see Samoa Joe and WWE should be grateful to have him on the roster because he's one of their biggest ever signings in recent memory. Stars who bring tons of money to the table need to be on the main show because they are the main attractions. Sorry, but I have to disagree. Joe is at the bottom of a long list of current/former NXT acquisitions (Finn Balor, Shinsuke Nakamura, Kevin Owens most recently, not to mention AJ Styles) and I would not consider him a huge draw for WWE. He has never been the focal point of TNA and even then, I can't imagine nonsubscribers subscribing to the Network if and only if Joe were on the main card. He's been on the main roster for barely a month and is not entitled to a main roster match at WrestleMania. Let's be honest, WWE only picked him up because they are simply monopolizing as much talent as possible.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 26, 2017 18:43:07 GMT -5
He is a world famous wrestler and a huge draw. People pay to see Samoa Joe and WWE should be grateful to have him on the roster because he's one of their biggest ever signings in recent memory. Stars who bring tons of money to the table need to be on the main show because they are the main attractions. Sorry, but I have to disagree. Joe is at the bottom of a long list of current/former NXT acquisitions (Finn Balor, Shinsuke Nakamura, Kevin Owens most recently, not to mention AJ Styles) and I would not consider him a huge draw for WWE. He has never been the focal point of TNA and even then, I can't imagine nonsubscribers subscribing to the Network if and only if Joe were on the main card. He's been on the main roster for barely a month and is not entitled to a main roster match at WrestleMania. Let's be honest, WWE only picked him up because they are simply monopolizing as much talent as possible. I respect your opinion but in defence of Joe at Mania Finn Balor was only on the roster a week and got rewarded with a title match at Summerslam.
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Post by Midnight: Dark Knight on Mar 26, 2017 18:55:39 GMT -5
I thought for sure last week finn would make the save and set up a match with joe at mania. now that its 1 week away im hoping joe interferes with triple h and this sends out finn for a mania moment.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 26, 2017 19:01:59 GMT -5
I thought for sure last week finn would make the save and set up a match with joe at mania. now that its 1 week away im hoping joe interferes with triple h and this sends out finn for a mania moment. Finn has been ready for a few weeks now so they really should've put him in a program with Joe. I'm not a fan of rematches at Mania but that would be an epic grudge match.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 20:51:19 GMT -5
If you notice, the last several years wrestlemania has only had 8-9 matches on the main card. 12 matches are official this year with at least two more to add(Joe vs somebody and HHH vs Rollins). Certainly they aren't going to have 8 matches this year and cram everything else on the pre-show? Hopefully Undertaker's match doesn't take up too much time on the main card.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Mar 28, 2017 18:00:18 GMT -5
I'm very shocked
Neville vs Aries, SD women's title, and battle royal all on the kickoff show. I can't see any suprise entrants occurring in either match if they're on the kickoff.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 28, 2017 18:21:55 GMT -5
I'm very shocked Neville vs Aries, SD women's title, and battle royal all on the kickoff show. I can't see any suprise entrants occurring in either match if they're on the kickoff. Shame about the battle royal because it pretty much confirms that no one important will win it and there will be no NXT surprises.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Mar 28, 2017 18:48:48 GMT -5
I'm very shocked Neville vs Aries, SD women's title, and battle royal all on the kickoff show. I can't see any suprise entrants occurring in either match if they're on the kickoff. Shame about the battle royal because it pretty much confirms that no one important will win it and there will be no NXT surprises. yeah and I'd imagine the same with the women
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Post by Sizzle on Mar 28, 2017 22:00:53 GMT -5
Samoa Joe is one of the best in the business, but he doesn't need a match at Wrestlemania.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Mar 28, 2017 23:07:34 GMT -5
I'm very shocked Neville vs Aries, SD women's title, and battle royal all on the kickoff show. I can't see any suprise entrants occurring in either match if they're on the kickoff. Shame about the battle royal because it pretty much confirms that no one important will win it and there will be no NXT surprises. They could always move it to the main show at the last minute. Last year the battle royal was supposed to be on the kickoff and got moved to the main show. Honestly, between now and Mania, anything having to do with stips and the kickoff could change.
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