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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Mar 26, 2017 21:33:51 GMT -5
Thats pretty much how I feel, cept I do think there is an outside chance that Orton/Wyatt closes. I cant imagine a 30 second match to close out WM. I really can't see them putting the SD Title over the RAW Title. Much like Roman, RAW must go over. Normally, I would agree. And I do think Goldberg/Lesnar will close the show and it wont be a 2 minute match. But if it goes on before the main event...expect a quickie.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Mar 27, 2017 1:35:40 GMT -5
Roman needs to go heel. But he can't be a cowardly, cheating heel. He needs to be an ass kicker who is a beast and he knows it. A guy who takes joy in destroying his opponents. And start it by having him wreck Taker. Like, he has Taker beaten, but breaks the cover himself, just so he can keep spearing Undertaker over and over until he can't physically move anymore, and then, only then finally pin him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 7:46:07 GMT -5
then have Reigns come out and savagely beat Brock and have him pick the title up and throw it back down on Brock This is where the idea goes awray. I don't see it myself? Turn Roman heel, to face Brock, who's heel, in order to turn Brock face? Or are we assuming Brock has turned face because he beat ultra babyface Goldberg half to death at 'Mania? So we the fans cheer the guy who's slightly more regular for beating up the part timer, and boo the full timer (Reigns) for beating a part timer (Undertaker)?... I think this is just one of those scenarios where people are confusing WWEs concept of face/heel with a typical fans concept of who's liked/disliked. Like the last 12 years of John Cena. I remember this same discussion about Romans monday night heel turn prior to WM31! If Roman beats Taker, you're getting an ultra cringe 'passing of the torch' moment the next night. Roman becomes stronger, and then pushed more as a key babyface.
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Post by Bandalero on Mar 27, 2017 9:42:29 GMT -5
I think WM generally leaves the fans on a high. Yes us adult males would love for him to turn heel, but the women and children will be disappointed and therefore this will not happen.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Mar 27, 2017 9:43:45 GMT -5
He just needs to be an antihero and only speak when needed to, maybe not anything long but good enough to get his point across.
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Post by xtremebadass on Mar 27, 2017 11:27:16 GMT -5
I'll tell you like this...Finn Balor coming out after Lesnar beats Goldberg invoking his entitled rematch clause for the Universal Championship seeing a 3 on 1 beatdown of Lesnar at the hands of the Balor Club with Finn pinning Lesnar for the 1, 2, 3 has a better chance of happening than Reigns turning.
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Post by BCizzle on Mar 27, 2017 12:39:45 GMT -5
If he turns heel, he will still be shoved down our throats like Triple H was back in the day. He is just a blight on the product.
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Post by J12 on Mar 27, 2017 13:32:24 GMT -5
Reigns isn't turning, and I would be shocked if anything other than Lesnar/Goldberg closes the show.
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Post by K5 on Mar 27, 2017 15:11:29 GMT -5
i really don't see roman turning...ever.
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Post by TheLastDude on Mar 27, 2017 15:15:11 GMT -5
He's not already heel? B-but...all the booing...
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Post by theMOESIAH on Mar 27, 2017 23:22:00 GMT -5
For better or for worse (read: for worse) Lesnar/Goldberg is the marquee match. They have name value all over the world. WWE isn't booking for the internet and they aren't booking for North America, they're booking for a global audience. The globe knows the 55 year old man and the steroid guy with a penis tattooed on his chest; they don't necessarily know Kevin Owens. I really can't see them putting the SD Title over the RAW Title. Much like Roman, RAW must go over. But that's THE title, the same one that was held by all those Legends. Orton and Wyatt could surprise us and give an awesome match with lots of twists and turns. The belts mean nothing to them. RAW woo always be priority #1.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Mar 27, 2017 23:24:16 GMT -5
I'll tell you like this...Finn Balor coming out after Lesnar beats Goldberg invoking his entitled rematch clause for the Universal Championship seeing a 3 on 1 beatdown of Lesnar at the hands of the Balor Club with Finn pinning Lesnar for the 1, 2, 3 has a better chance of happening than Reigns turning. Is there an actual Balor Club? Does he have a stable?
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Post by marino13 on Mar 28, 2017 7:09:55 GMT -5
He needs to be a silent ass kicking man-monster. Do not have him align with the Authority. Have him stand alone. That way if fans start to accept him, he doesn't have to change his gimmick much to turn face.
Personally, I'd love to have him be managed by Heyman. This would set up Brock vs Roman. Then eventually I hope we get a Roman vs Rock match where Roman retires Rock once and for all.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Mar 30, 2017 0:19:04 GMT -5
For better or for worse (read: for worse) Lesnar/Goldberg is the marquee match. As per the latest Observer, Google metrics indicate Reigns vs Undertaker has the most interest on the show, ahead of Lesnar vs Goldberg, with Rollins vs HHH being a distant third. Regardless, with Reigns being the biggest merch seller on the full time roster (now JC isn't full time anymore), a turn seems unlikely. Ultimately it seems like it depends on how much faith they'd have in Balor to be the top babyface.
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Post by That 80s Guy on Mar 30, 2017 17:58:55 GMT -5
-- Destroys UT. Officially UT's final match, UT doesn't show up again until Survivor Series for a "final ceremony" thingy. But Roman turns at WM.
RAW After Mania: Kane confronts Roman, Kane is destroyed (career-wise, the Kane character can be retired at the hands of a heel Roman. Perfect timing too, considering Mr. Jacobs has his bases covered post-retirement).
Roman Reigns' heel turn is epic, in the sense that he put away both Brothers of Destruction within a 24hr period of time. Fans don't like him now, they will HATE him then!
(of course, we're talking about the WWE uncreative team here, so we'll probably get the opposite 'happy go lucky/passing of the yard dog bone' ending to RR/UT).
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Post by That 80s Guy on Mar 30, 2017 18:05:09 GMT -5
He needs to be a silent ass kicking man-monster. Personally, I'd love to have him be managed by Heyman. -- In a perfect world, I'd love to see Roman & Baron form a team of just 2 silent killers, with Heyman at the realm. Kinda blend the Shield/Authors/Post-apocalyptic hybrid look, where both guys don't talk but just beat up everybody. Then imagine if the Authors did get the call up, to either join Reigns & Corbin or start a feud with them (Paul vs. Paul). Either way, it'd keep Roman (and Baron) from talking, while letting one of the best promo guys do the talking for them.
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Post by weaseltv on Mar 31, 2017 9:03:51 GMT -5
I'll tell you like this...Finn Balor coming out after Lesnar beats Goldberg invoking his entitled rematch clause for the Universal Championship seeing a 3 on 1 beatdown of Lesnar at the hands of the Balor Club with Finn pinning Lesnar for the 1, 2, 3 has a better chance of happening than Reigns turning. I'd rather see this happen than Reigns vs Lesnar. And if Balor and the Club team up, he has to be a heel... because a face Balor Club... if it's anything like Balor and Baley's moments in the ring... is basically the Mickey Mouse club....
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Post by hbkowns on Mar 31, 2017 9:37:49 GMT -5
Highly doubt Reigns is turning. I'd be really surprised. It would make perfect sense to do it because there's not a lot of heels at the moment on Raw..You have Rollins, Bálor, and Zayn who can be the top faces, but the only top heels I can think of are Owens, and Joe. I feel like Strowman is still a work in progress.
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Post by punksnotdead on Mar 31, 2017 16:02:19 GMT -5
Reigns isn't turning, and I would be shocked if anything other than Lesnar/Goldberg closes the show. Get ready to be shocked. Reigns is going to beat Taker in the main event, WWE will refuse to turn him heel, and the fans will never forgive him. I think it's pretty clear they want to do Reigns vs Brock again for the title.
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Post by IRS on Mar 31, 2017 16:13:06 GMT -5
Reigns isn't turning, and I would be shocked if anything other than Lesnar/Goldberg closes the show. Get ready to be shocked. Reigns is going to beat Taker in the main event, WWE will refuse to turn him heel, and the fans will never forgive him. I think it's pretty clear they want to do Reigns vs Brock again for the title. The "two" in 23-2 at SummerSlam. Twenty German suplexes and Superman Punches later, and REIGNSWINSLOL. Beleee dat.
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