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Post by cordless2016 on Jun 22, 2017 8:43:02 GMT -5
This should culminate with a "kiss Corey Graves on a pole" match. This could even surpass the amazing "Judy Bagwell on a pole" match.
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Post by Triple S on Jun 22, 2017 10:14:54 GMT -5
Thank goodness we still have Carmella and Alexa Bliss, you know, the two girls from NXT that nobody was supposed to care about, because the Horsewomen were there. Because they were... and still are... greener than goose crap. While the Horsewomen are athletes that honed their art of professional wrestling for years and understand how to tell a story in the ring. Not some model/dancer that can do a flip in the ring, or just look good in tights.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 22, 2017 10:43:30 GMT -5
Thank goodness we still have Carmella and Alexa Bliss, you know, the two girls from NXT that nobody was supposed to care about, because the Horsewomen were there. Because they were... and still are... greener than goose crap. While the Horsewomen are athletes that honed their art of professional wrestling for years and understand how to tell a story in the ring. Not some model/dancer that can do a flip in the ring, or just look good in tights. In that feud Bayley had with Charlotte, Bayley did not come out of that looking like a good athlete. She had so many botched moves that they all ended up in the Botchamania videos. Plus Carmella's dad was a job guy for WWE in the 80s, so she has wrestling in her. As for Alexa, she could be the next Trish Stratus. You remember Trish, right?? A fitness model - turned wrestler, who became the best women's wrestler ever! Alexa has potential to be just as good as Trish.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 22, 2017 10:47:49 GMT -5
Nobody wants to see Bayley be some kind of autistic, kiss-less virgin. I don't understand why they just can't let her wrestle. It's insulting.
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Post by Triple S on Jun 22, 2017 10:50:55 GMT -5
Trish, the best women's wrestler ever? Please, please stop. Trish was GIVEN the spotlight because she was a fitness model. I'll give her credit, she ended up succeeding from starting as a balloon chested valet for Test and Albert... but I think politics played a HUGE part in her in-ring achievements.
Carmella had a jobber daddy. That doesn't mean wrestling is in her blood and she's destined to succeed in pro wrestling. Just ask all of these second generation sports athletes who sniff the majors for a year or two, then fall into obscurity.
Bayley has just looked awkward and out of place ever since the excitement of Foley's announcement wore off and they stupidly hotshot the title on her, trying to force her popularity. It's no shock anymore that WWE creative can't write for the Bayley character like NXT writer(s) did. It's honestly quite embarrassing to watch her on the main roster.
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Post by Liv Is Life on Jun 22, 2017 10:57:23 GMT -5
This should culminate with a "kiss Corey Graves on a pole" match. This could even surpass the amazing "Judy Bagwell on a pole" match. I read that as "Kiss Corey Graves pole" match and was surprisingly alright with the idea...
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 22, 2017 10:59:10 GMT -5
Trish, the best women's wrestler ever? Please, please stop. Trish was GIVEN the spotlight because she was a fitness model. I'll give her credit, she ended up succeeding from starting as a balloon chested valet for Test and Albert... but I think politics played a HUGE part in her in-ring achievements. Carmella had a jobber daddy. That doesn't mean wrestling is in her blood and she's destined to succeed in pro wrestling. Just ask all of these second generation sports athletes who sniff the majors for a year or two, then fall into obscurity. Bayley has just looked awkward and out of place ever since the excitement of Foley's announcement wore off and they stupidly hotshot the title on her, trying to force her popularity. It's no shock anymore that WWE creative can't write for the Bayley character like NXT writer(s) did. It's honestly quite embarrassing to watch her on the main roster. I agree. Trish, and Lita to a degree, were simply POSITIONED as being the best. At that time, women like Molly Holly, Victoria, and JAZZ especially, were way more talented, but they didn't have the "look" that Vince wanted, so they didn't get as big of a push. They all had success and all had Title runs, but there's a difference between a title run or two, and being in the Hall of Fame being billed as one of the best ever. The rest of the division at that time don't get the same recognition that they deserve. Not to be whatever, but the same thing happened to Nikki Bella. She's not one of the best ever....but WWE can write history that way. She got that spot because of John Cena, and as an FU to CM Punk because Nikki Bella broke all of AJ Lee's records.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 22, 2017 11:26:37 GMT -5
Trish, the best women's wrestler ever? Please, please stop. Trish was GIVEN the spotlight because she was a fitness model. I'll give her credit, she ended up succeeding from starting as a balloon chested valet for Test and Albert... but I think politics played a HUGE part in her in-ring achievements. Carmella had a jobber daddy. That doesn't mean wrestling is in her blood and she's destined to succeed in pro wrestling. Just ask all of these second generation sports athletes who sniff the majors for a year or two, then fall into obscurity. Bayley has just looked awkward and out of place ever since the excitement of Foley's announcement wore off and they stupidly hotshot the title on her, trying to force her popularity. It's no shock anymore that WWE creative can't write for the Bayley character like NXT writer(s) did. It's honestly quite embarrassing to watch her on the main roster. Honestly, all I am getting out of this post is that you are just butt hurt that your NXT favourites aren't being used properly on the main roster, when the other NXT stars are that were over looked when on the NXT roster. Bayley had a great match with Sasha Banks in the summer of 2015. Well of course she did, she practiced that match with Sasha each day for weeks at the Performance Center. When they were all brought up on the main roster, none of them yet have had a classic match, because it's all on the fly wrestling then. The fact that Vince is giving this story line to Bayley is probably a good thing for her. If not, she would probably be sitting on the sidelines this summer, watching Sasha, Alexa, and Nia all circle around the Women's Title.
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Post by JC Motors on Jun 22, 2017 11:51:52 GMT -5
I honestly believe that Vince trolls HHH. Think about it, HHH builds these huge stars that are destined to be the future while Vince takes great pleasure in slowly dismantling them. I'm pretty sure Kevin Dunn is partially responsible as well
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Post by fzmadness on Jun 22, 2017 11:58:25 GMT -5
She could've been the female John Cena but her character is already stale. Maybe this will shake her up and freshen it up. More than likely they will hold her responsible for the angle sucking.
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Post by Triple S on Jun 22, 2017 12:04:24 GMT -5
Bayley is the underdog. The underdog doesn't win the championship within just 6 months. There was no chase and that's what made Bayley special in NXT. The story of her chase for the Women's Championship.
Her injury and missing out on the Horsewomen call-up should've been the start to her story, but if I remember well... it was just mentioned at that's it.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jun 22, 2017 12:11:03 GMT -5
Sigh... at this point... whatever. I mean if they have to do it, why not go with Enzo? It'll give him something to do. And they could do some mixed tag matches. Land of misfit toys sorta thing. Plus, like he did with Cass, Enzo can cover up some of Bayley's shortcomings on the mic. Off topic, but that's a reason I love the Titus Brand idea. In the past, if a guy couldn't cut a promo, he'd get a manager or something to help. It's part of why managers had such big stables. Do that again. Apollo's bland? Give him Titus. Enzo's not good in the ring? Have him mix it up with talented but bland workers and boost their personality.
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Post by T R W on Jun 22, 2017 12:25:00 GMT -5
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jun 22, 2017 12:30:37 GMT -5
Whats next for Bayley? A nice steak dinner. With me.
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Post by marino13 on Jun 22, 2017 12:40:34 GMT -5
I laughed so hard at this that I choked!
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Post by Triple S on Jun 22, 2017 12:42:05 GMT -5
Whats next for Bayley? A nice steak dinner. With me. That can be after I take her out for a nice seafood dinner and NEVER CALL HER BACK!
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Post by ahunter8056 on Jun 22, 2017 12:42:16 GMT -5
When they were all brought up on the main roster, none of them yet have had a classic match, because it's all on the fly wrestling then. You wouldn't consider the WrestleMania 32 Triple Threat to be a great match?
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Post by sonstuds on Jun 22, 2017 13:19:28 GMT -5
Whats next for Bayley? A nice steak dinner. With me. That can be after I take her out for a nice seafood dinner and NEVER CALL HER BACK! Bayley is a SAINT, you understand me!? Bayley is a saint!
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 22, 2017 14:35:42 GMT -5
When they were all brought up on the main roster, none of them yet have had a classic match, because it's all on the fly wrestling then. You wouldn't consider the WrestleMania 32 Triple Threat to be a great match? Not at all! Aside from Charlotte's top rope moonsault to the floor, I can't remember a single thing about that match. And the 4 way this year with Charlotte, Bayley, Sasha and Nia was even worse! Train wrecks all around!
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Post by Triple S on Jun 22, 2017 15:16:57 GMT -5
When they were all brought up on the main roster, none of them yet have had a classic match, because it's all on the fly wrestling then. You wouldn't consider the WrestleMania 32 Triple Threat to be a great match? I wouldn't bother. If it isn't old school style booking or wrestlers, this guy usually craps on it. Charlotte/Becky/Sasha at WrestleMania was great and up there as a possible MOTN.
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