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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 10:46:35 GMT -5
I am more than sure this has been discussed before, but I dont want to be the guy to dig up old threads.
Was listening to a Bruce Prichard podcast where he says the original plan, to fill the LA Coliseum, 107,000 people, was to have Hulk Hogan challange Tugboat for the WWF Championship after Tugboat had turned into the Iraqi heel and gone by Shiek Tugboat.
I had to pause the video for a few moments to actually try and process that Vince actually came up with that and thought it would fill over 100+.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 28, 2017 10:48:51 GMT -5
I've heard that too before. But I have a hard time believing it when they brought back Slaughter well before SummerSlam 90 as a heel and had him become the Iraq Sympathizer and hate on America.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 10:50:39 GMT -5
I've heard that too before. But I have a hard time believing it when they brought back Slaughter well before SummerSlam 90 as a heel and had him become the Iraq Sympathizer and hate on America. That was my same thought too. They would not have brought Sarge back as the heel if that was not the direction they were going to go.
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Post by The Brain on Jun 28, 2017 14:14:03 GMT -5
I'm glad they stuck with the Slaughter route as he played the role perfectly. Tugboat as an Iraqi Sympathizer? no way in hell that would've worked.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jun 28, 2017 17:56:08 GMT -5
I'm glad they stuck with the Slaughter route as he played the role perfectly. Tugboat as an Iraqi Sympathizer? no way in hell that would've worked people would've cared. Fixed.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 28, 2017 18:04:05 GMT -5
Ive heard the rumors of Tugboat getting the role but never that he was going to be in the title match.
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Post by jakksking1 on Jun 28, 2017 18:16:19 GMT -5
Any mention on why they changed the Iron Shieks name? That's the part I always found the weirdest in that angle. That was clearly the Iron Sheik, former WWF champion and they pretended like he wasn't. don't remember any explanation on why they changed it to Col Mustafa.
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Post by The Brain on Jun 28, 2017 18:48:08 GMT -5
Any mention on why they changed the Iron Shieks name? That's the part I always found the weirdest in that angle. That was clearly the Iron Sheik, former WWF champion and they pretended like he wasn't. don't remember any explanation on why they changed it to Col Mustafa. Vince did mention on commentary that it was former WWF Champion Iron Sheik right after WM 7. Here's the clip...
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Post by dixol on Jul 3, 2017 23:45:08 GMT -5
Tugboat wasn't supposed to be a Sheik. He was just going to be another friend that turns on Hogan. The podcast uses the term Sheik Tugboat as a kind of shorthand to explain the turn. But he wasn't actually going to be a Sheik, just Evil Tugboat.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 3, 2017 23:46:43 GMT -5
Does this mean though that Tugboat would have beaten the Warrior at the Royal Rumble for the WWE Title then?? I find that one REALLY hard to believe.
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 4, 2017 13:06:20 GMT -5
I've heard that too before. But I have a hard time believing it when they brought back Slaughter well before SummerSlam 90 as a heel and had him become the Iraq Sympathizer and hate on America. in Vinces head Hogan vs Sarge was a dream match.....you can bet your bottom $$ this was the plan from the time he got him back.
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Post by mikey1974 on Jul 4, 2017 13:06:54 GMT -5
Does this mean though that Tugboat would have beaten the Warrior at the Royal Rumble for the WWE Title then?? I find that one REALLY hard to believe. I can believe it. Who knows how many other horrors we were spared because, thank Christ, someone was able to change Vince's mind.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jul 5, 2017 5:45:43 GMT -5
Does this mean though that Tugboat would have beaten the Warrior at the Royal Rumble for the WWE Title then?? I find that one REALLY hard to believe. It isn't much harder to believe than Vince letting a 40+-year-old, slow, balding guy who had been off of WWF TV for years go over the guy who had been carefully cultivated as a star equal to Hogan during most of 1990. While I was never a Warrior fan, I was shocked that Vince let an aging, old-school guy get the belt just to do a patriotism angle. When Hogan cut his promo at SummerSlam 1990 and mentioned "opening Jack Tunney's eyes" (or something to that effect), I thought that was the first step in a long program that would result in Hogan-Warrior 2 at WM7. I can't be the only person who was severely disappointed at how the main event of WM7 turned out.
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Jul 7, 2017 17:18:22 GMT -5
I am more than sure this has been discussed before, but I dont want to be the guy to dig up old threads. Was listening to a Bruce Prichard podcast where he says the original plan, to fill the LA Coliseum, 107,000 people, was to have Hulk Hogan challange Tugboat for the WWF Championship after Tugboat had turned into the Iraqi heel and gone by Shiek Tugboat. I had to pause the video for a few moments to actually try and process that Vince actually came up with that and thought it would fill over 100+. I'm surprised that Vince wouldn't have a Wrestlemania rematch between Hogan and Warrior. That would've definitely would've filled the LA Coliseum.
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Post by robbutler01 on Jul 8, 2017 6:31:57 GMT -5
I am more than sure this has been discussed before, but I dont want to be the guy to dig up old threads. Was listening to a Bruce Prichard podcast where he says the original plan, to fill the LA Coliseum, 107,000 people, was to have Hulk Hogan challange Tugboat for the WWF Championship after Tugboat had turned into the Iraqi heel and gone by Shiek Tugboat. I had to pause the video for a few moments to actually try and process that Vince actually came up with that and thought it would fill over 100+. I'm surprised that Vince wouldn't have a Wrestlemania rematch between Hogan and Warrior. That would've definitely would've filled the LA Coliseum. Ive always thought this. I think it didn't happen due to not being able to sort a satisfactory ending and path after for them both but it could and should have been the main plan
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 9:22:22 GMT -5
That would have sucked honestly.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 9, 2017 15:06:37 GMT -5
I am more than sure this has been discussed before, but I dont want to be the guy to dig up old threads. Was listening to a Bruce Prichard podcast where he says the original plan, to fill the LA Coliseum, 107,000 people, was to have Hulk Hogan challange Tugboat for the WWF Championship after Tugboat had turned into the Iraqi heel and gone by Shiek Tugboat. I had to pause the video for a few moments to actually try and process that Vince actually came up with that and thought it would fill over 100+. I'm surprised that Vince wouldn't have a Wrestlemania rematch between Hogan and Warrior. That would've definitely would've filled the LA Coliseum. Imagine Warrior as the heel if they did the rematch.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 9, 2017 15:36:18 GMT -5
I always wondered what might have happened if there was no Gulf War for Vince to try and capitalize on. That whole Slaughter heel turn was the easiest form of cheap heat.
No way do I want to alter anything that might affect the Savage/Warrior match and that post-match stuff with Elizabeth. That was perfect! The best match on that card no doubt about it.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 9, 2017 15:47:50 GMT -5
I always wondered what might have happened if there was no Gulf War for Vince to try and capitalize on. Warrior/Hogan 2 would've been a strong possibility if that was the case. Where that would've left Savage/Slaughter is anybody's guess.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 9, 2017 16:19:40 GMT -5
Too bad they didn't do triple threat matches back then, as they could have had Savage take the title from Warrior at the RR which would have then led to Savage (c) vs Hogan vs Warrior at WM7. It's the biggest match possible at the time and Hogan could pin Savage to regain the title while Warrior comes out looking just as strong.
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