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Post by bababooey on Aug 6, 2017 11:37:05 GMT -5
I'm really happy with Mattel. I don't have a problem with a stable of shared molds. It cuts down on production costs and just about every toy company does it. I do get annoyed when they sometimes use the wrong parts when they have better parts available. They do make unique molds when it's needed. Jakks was usually terrible with heavier guys when that is where Mattel usually shines brightest. Jakks seemed to have that one fat guy mold then they would just add soft goods clothing over it. Vader and Yoko and Akeem and Bam Bam didn't need to be the same size. Also Big Bossman figures just looked really weird. First that untucked rubber shirt then that ill fitting swat vest. Mattel gave us way better versions of those figures.
Jakks did have great headsculpts but they also had gigantic heads.
I also took out some of my old Jakks figures last week and was disgusted. That plastics Jakks used did not hold up well. The figures were all sticky, mainly from the rubber pads. Mattel uses more of a vinyl material that stays dry.
There are some QC things with Mattel but I have seen signs of them working to correct issues and actually listening to the buyers.
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Post by kiloinnorcal on Aug 6, 2017 11:38:07 GMT -5
Now I'll be looking at the Marvel Legends figures, I hope they're not too good! I can't handle seeing a better line at the same price point. Marvel Legends are downright amazing and was the "other toyline" I was alluding to grabbing my attention in my previous post. Better articulation, paint apps and accesories (including head and hand swaps) at the same pricepoint as WWE's. I do like my Mattels because the figure represented is an actual real person who can sign the box if you like moc figures. But there is no question Hasbro is progressing with their paint and new 3d scan tech. Added bonus the Marvel Legends Infinite series is only a few years in, so not so daunting to catch up on.
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TheBadGuyChico
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Aug 6, 2017 12:01:17 GMT -5
We've been begging for a new singlet mold forever now, the RVD and Mr. Perfect figures are just too damn thin, that's my number one want as far as tooling goes.
The inexcusable thing is using the wrong parts when they in fact have the right ones. The skinny tight legs have ruined many anticipated figures for me, they look awful on Sting and Jerry Lawler. The Savage legs are fantastic, any guy that isn't manorexic should have these.
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Post by theaxehennig on Aug 6, 2017 12:44:47 GMT -5
Being a former Jakks guy myself and seeing how deep the line went, once I sold my Jakks a few years ago, I took a step back and questioned why I needed to own Droz, Abe Schwartz, and Tank Abbott. Jakks was an exciting era for wrestling figure fans and Mattel has given us less characters, but superior product in terms of execution and accessories. I do think Mattel could give us more variety in the line, as I personally only pick up one of each character for my 1989-1992 collection, but we'll see where that goes.
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Aug 6, 2017 13:37:40 GMT -5
Now I'll be looking at the Marvel Legends figures, I hope they're not too good! I can't handle seeing a better line at the same price point. Marvel Legends are downright amazing and was the "other toyline" I was alluding to grabbing my attention in my previous post. Better articulation, paint apps and accesories (including head and hand swaps) at the same pricepoint as WWE's. I do like my Mattels because the figure represented is an actual real person who can sign the box if you like moc figures. But there is no question Hasbro is progressing with their paint and new 3d scan tech. Added bonus the Marvel Legends Infinite series is only a few years in, so not so daunting to catch up on. The Netflix Punisher has an amazing likeness because of this tech. Also, I forgot to mention the Build-A-Figures included in each wave, although I can see how some might see those a negative aspect of the line if they have no interest in collecting everyone in a wave.
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Post by maske2g on Aug 6, 2017 15:21:40 GMT -5
They do a great job all things considered. When I see some of the complaints on here it makes me laugh a bit. I think we forget that this is a MASS-PRODUCED line by one of the largest toy companies in the world. This isn't a niche line of collectibles geared toward just us collectors. They have a delicate line to balance. Do I wish that they were higher-end like some recent outputs from Storm and Figuarts? (Ironically not those lines' wrestling figures, but I love some of their other work.) You bet. I'd be happy to spend more on a better all-around figure. I hope we get a truly special top-end line with $50 wrestling figures someday. But for keeping costs as they are we still get a very good bang for your buck as far as the elites are concerned. I get that we want perfect figures but when I see little tiny complaints about molded belts and fringe I think it's time to take a step back and look at the big picture. Sometimes I think this board does more harm than good when it comes to minor issues. If I hadn't been on the board during SDCC, I wouldn't have realized that Alexa's body on her elite has a flaw without reading it on here first. I had never heard of the belt thing mentioned above but now I know of another "flaw." Same thing with comments on RSC instagram posts, it's like we have to avoid all of these traps because somebody will always find something that otherwise I'd never ever notice. And on the subject of Alexa, she wears a pushup bra while wrestling. Mattel is not making a new mold just so folks can lear at an acurate portrayal of her mammaries. Its always been my favourite gland
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Post by mcfclee on Aug 6, 2017 15:40:03 GMT -5
Jakks were brilliant at the time, especially due to the deep roster they made, but looking back the scale is awful, anyone over 300 pounds looks awful and they couldn't make hands and heads in proportion at all. Mattel all the way.
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Post by dynamitekido on Aug 6, 2017 15:57:28 GMT -5
This is all coming from someone who collected wrestling figures as a kid, from LJN to Hasbros. I was basically in my 20s when Jakks got the license. Not only was I no longer interested in collecting wrestling figures, I also wasn't big on what they were doing. I did think it was cool to see the sheer abundance of wrestlers they actually released. I didn't care for the scale on them and how guys were basically the same size.
Now I started collecting Mattel figures last July and I've been pretty impressed overall. Now I'm not saying Mattel is perfect (they're not), but I've really had a blast the last year collecting, buying, and trading figs. Now I certainly wish they would release more wrestlers from when I was a kid, but I get why they don't. But as someone who also watches and follows the current product, I like a lot of the releases of current superstars too. I really don't have a lot of complaints other than buying figs that were broken right out of the package, or the continual releases of Cena/Reigns in every line (seemingly), but I can pick and choose what I buy.
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Post by xtremebadass on Aug 6, 2017 17:28:57 GMT -5
I think there's nowhere to go but down when it comes to WWE Mattel Elite figures. This goes for most toy lines in general. The only way for toy companies to keep the price point the same is to make sacrifices. I mean...look at Transformers. Compared the toys for Revenge of the Fallen in 2009 to the Last Knight toys. Quality continues to go down. I am amazed at what Mattel has been able to give us. You see cracks in the armor though with those articulation issues of basic figures. Those new transformers have also doubled in price since 2009. No wonder the shelves are full of them I cry more and more when I see them on shelves. A "deluxe" transformer is less than half as complex as they used to be with as minimal detail as possible yet cost $20. It is sad.
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Post by WalterF on Aug 7, 2017 11:09:23 GMT -5
I love the figures we get from Mattel these days. I do understand some of the complains and there is validity there but we really do get a quality product. I've been collecting since the BCAs and tonthink how much the figures advanced; it's very significant. The scale, great deco, different looks .... these figures would have seemed like a fantasy to the BCA (which I still love) collector I was.
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